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barbogast 07-15-2016 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16516327)
For Barbs's b-day we should print out all his Ants NHL Awards as banners so he can hang them up in his house.

I will hang them proudly. One of the years the Caps won the southeast, the Caps gave every season ticket holder a mock banner in remembrance of a successful season. My dad gave me his and I actually still know where that thing is :lol

Have fun at SPAC, Kev :)

kev87lads 07-15-2016 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16516774)
I will hang them proudly. One of the years the Caps won the southeast, the Caps gave every season ticket holder a mock banner in remembrance of a successful season. My dad gave me his and I actually still know where that thing is :lol

Have fun at SPAC, Kev :)

Thanks Boss. Heading out to grab my buddy in a few and start the journey up.

JRS1386 07-15-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16516855)
Thanks Boss. Heading out to grab my buddy in a few and start the journey up.

Hope you get Smooth Rider :thumbsup

lockman21 07-15-2016 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16516327)
For Barbs's b-day we should print out all his Ants NHL Awards as banners so he can hang them up in his house.

We should track this one down - http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks...sic-champs.jpg

TMoore4075 07-15-2016 12:46 PM

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I'd pay money to get that to him.

barbogast 07-15-2016 01:43 PM

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Holy crap. I would hang the fuck out of that thing. I don't have rafters in my house, but I'd build 'em just for that. Definitely need the "AWESOME!!!!!" part as well

kev87lads 07-15-2016 04:37 PM

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On the lawn. Good spot. Go Flyers.

dmbetc 07-15-2016 04:39 PM

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Have fun Kevin! I'm really mad at myself for not just sucking it up and going.

Dramageek 07-15-2016 06:04 PM

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Have fun at the SPAC! Good start so far!

Jamie Benn signs 8-year/$76 million extension with the Stars.

That would be accurate if Jamie Benn was a center. Idiot!

lockman21 07-15-2016 06:09 PM

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That would be accurate if Jamie Benn was a center. Idiot!

kev87lads 07-15-2016 06:20 PM

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Bucci retweeted pics of me at show

dmbetc 07-15-2016 08:52 PM

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The "C" on Jamie Benn's sweater means center, right?

kev87lads 07-16-2016 09:38 PM

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OK Spac. I see you. N1 better.

dmbetc 07-16-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16519448)
OK Spac. I see you. N1 better.

Wha?? Seriously? N2 was better IMO but both were solid nights.

Perfect weekend as a whole.

TMoore4075 07-17-2016 07:26 AM

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Say Bye and Last Stop. Give me either of those on Wednesday and I'll take anything else the rest of the set. lol

barbogast 07-17-2016 10:32 AM

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Yeah lucky you Kev. Two very good shows. Poor Lockman.

trd1610 07-17-2016 11:05 AM

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Lightning sign Alex Killorn to a 7 year deal, $4.45 million per year. He was phenomenal in the playoffs and is really an underrated part of the team. 7 years is a long commitment but the money isn't egregious by any means for a 26 year old who seems to be just emerging into the player he can be.

salrx95 07-17-2016 04:22 PM

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So my Gilford N2 was arguably the best of the tour for what, 3 days. :D

Ridiculous set last night.

Told my wife I think we need to go back to spac in 2018, though only time we went, we got a shake me closer.

~Crashintome89~ 07-18-2016 01:05 AM

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God damn, Kev were you at SPAC N2?

Lcsulla 07-18-2016 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16513285)
i think his role can expand too. with Sullivan's fast-paced, puck moving system he should fit in nicely with increased minutes

he'd be perfect at right around 12-14 mins per game and on the 2nd PP unit

Letang-Maatta
Dumolin-Daley
Cole-Shultz

Pouliot as their 7th

that's not a bad blue line at all

Yeah a solid blue line is absolutely critical to a teams success and I think Pittsburgh has a pretty solid one. That said, the expansion draft is going to be a royal pain for team that have good blue liners because they will likely have to expose all but 3. Much like your Penguins I am damn happy with Chicago's blue line:

Keith/TVR
Seabrook/Hjarlmasson
Campbell/Svedberg

add in Rozsival and Ehrhoff for injuries, spot situations and filling in if someone ends up on the injured reserve list and I am pretty confident with the Hawks D. No real concerns about their offense at all but I am really hoping Crawford can start avoiding his periodic brainfarts in net!

lockman21 07-18-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lcsulla (Post 16520566)
Yeah a solid blue line is absolutely critical to a teams success and I think Pittsburgh has a pretty solid one. That said, the expansion draft is going to be a royal pain for team that have good blue liners because they will likely have to expose all but 3. Much like your Penguins I am damn happy with Chicago's blue line:

Keith/TVR
Seabrook/Hjarlmasson
Campbell/Svedberg

add in Rozsival and Ehrhoff for injuries, spot situations and filling in if someone ends up on the injured reserve list and I am pretty confident with the Hawks D. No real concerns about their offense at all but I am really hoping Crawford can start avoiding his periodic brainfarts in net!

I would be SHOCKED if -

1) Ehrhoff was resigned by the Hawks
2) Svedberg plays in the NHL for more than 10-20 games (mostly for injury fill in)
3) Campbell plays on the bottom pair
4) Kempny isn't on the opening day roster

It'll likely be more like this -

Keith - Hjalmarsson
Campbell - Seabrook
Kempny - TVR
Roszival

With Pokka and Svedberg being call-ups if needed.

fonzz41 07-18-2016 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by trd1610 (Post 16519720)
Lightning sign Alex Killorn to a 7 year deal, $4.45 million per year. He was phenomenal in the playoffs and is really an underrated part of the team. 7 years is a long commitment but the money isn't egregious by any means for a 26 year old who seems to be just emerging into the player he can be.

Stevie Y does it again. Great signing.

TMoore4075 07-18-2016 08:10 AM

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If Kilorn gets 4.5 what is Kuch gonna get and Johnson next year?

Lcsulla 07-18-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16520614)
I would be SHOCKED if -

1) Ehrhoff was resigned by the Hawks
2) Svedberg plays in the NHL for more than 10-20 games (mostly for injury fill in)
3) Campbell plays on the bottom pair
4) Kempny isn't on the opening day roster

It'll likely be more like this -

Keith - Hjalmarsson
Campbell - Seabrook
Kempny - TVR
Roszival

With Pokka and Svedberg being call-ups if needed.

Agreed on Erhoff, I too doubt he remains in Chicago.
Unsure about Kempny to be honest, Hawks have a deep D so he may not be on the opening day roster.
I agree Campbell should be on the first or second D pairing but I think given his status as a vet having him on a line with young guys like Svedberg or TVR would be very beneficial to their development.

Regardless though - Keith is going to anchor the first pairing and Seabrook will anchor the second pairing (and BOTH will likely be on the ice together during PP's) regardless of who they are paired with.

lockman21 07-18-2016 08:29 AM

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Kempny will almost certainly be on the opening day roster. Dude was a KHL stud, came over here with the expectation he plays in the NHL, not the AHL. I'm guessing he was all but guaranteed a spot on the roster when he signed kind of like Panarin was.

He's going to be really good.

lockman21 07-18-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16520650)
If Kilorn gets 4.5 what is Kuch gonna get and Johnson next year?

Johnson is so interesting...curious where he lands.

Still can't believe they got Stammer for only 8.5. Blows my mind.

TMoore4075 07-18-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16520722)
Johnson is so interesting...curious where he lands.

Still can't believe they got Stammer for only 8.5. Blows my mind.

He knew what the only $ they could get offer was. While his cap hit seems low, those state taxes do play into what he actually gets plus an 8th year. If Detroit or Buffalo gave him 10.5mil, he'd only take home like 500k more per year than he's taking home in TB and Tampa could give an 8th year so he's making about $2mil more overall in Tampa than he could have gotten in either of those two places at a 10.5mil cap hit.

kev87lads 07-18-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16520349)
God damn, Kev were you at SPAC N2?

I was!

I still maintain that my personal preference was N1. But both were VERY good and couldn't go wrong.

There were songs in N1 that I enjoy and haven't heard in awhile that push over the top for me. First three songs in N2 were just amazing, even though Last Stop was kind of a mess for the first 5 minutes. And I just don't hold Two Step and Halloween in the same regard as others so it doesn't push it past N1 for me.

Missing Jimi though was really a win for everyone there and the world.

lockman21 07-18-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16520795)
He knew what the only $ they could get offer was. While his cap hit seems low, those state taxes do play into what he actually gets plus an 8th year. If Detroit or Buffalo gave him 10.5mil, he'd only take home like 500k more per year than he's taking home in TB and Tampa could give an 8th year so he's making about $2mil more overall in Tampa than he could have gotten in either of those two places at a 10.5mil cap hit.

Where did you see that? I have a hard time believing that's accurate, since the state taxes are taken out based on where you play. Over the course of a 7 year contract, he'd only have an extra $1,561,875 taken out in Michigan considering Michigan's state income is 4.25%. He'd make up that difference in no time, plus whatever he'd get paid in the 8th year when he signs another contract.

10.5*7 = 73,500,000 - 1561875 = $71,938,125
8.5*8 = 68,000,000

Math for reference - 10,500,000*.0425=$446,250/2(home games in Michigan)=223,125*8(years)=$1,561,875

lockman21 07-18-2016 09:40 AM

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So for consistency's sake, if we look at a "per year" basis -

10.5*7 = 71,938,125 = 10,276,875 per year
8.5*7 (with no state income for FLA home games) = 59,500,000 = still 8.5 per year...so another 1.77m per year

I have no idea where you read that 500k number, but it's not right.

TMoore4075 07-18-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16520881)
Where did you see that? I have a hard time believing that's accurate, since the state taxes are taken out based on where you play. Over the course of a 7 year contract, he'd only have an extra $1,561,875 taken out in Michigan considering Michigan's state income is 4.25%. He'd make up that difference in no time, plus whatever he'd get paid in the 8th year when he signs another contract.

10.5*7 = 73,500,000 - 1561875 = $71,938,125
8.5*8 = 68,000,000

Math for reference - 10,500,000*.0425=$446,250/2(home games in Michigan)=223,125*8(years)=$1,561,875

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16520912)
So for consistency's sake, if we look at a "per year" basis -

10.5*7 = 71,938,125 = 10,276,875 per year
8.5*7 (with no state income for FLA home games) = 59,500,000 = still 8.5 per year...so another 1.77m per year

I have no idea where you read that 500k number, but it's not right.

https://www.capfriendly.com/post_tax_calculator

That's including all taxes federal and state.

10.5mil per year in Detroit after all taxes: 5.6mi per year for 7 years= 39.2mil

8.5mil per year in TB: 5.1mil per year for 8 years=40.8mil.

So even though his cap hit would be higher in Detroit, he's making more in Tampa at a lower cap hit.

trd1610 07-18-2016 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16520650)
If Kilorn gets 4.5 what is Kuch gonna get and Johnson next year?



I prefer Kucherov to Johnson, I just think he's a better player. He'll probably be asking for 6-7 range. If we can lock him up for 6x6.5 or something like that I'd be happy. They've got about 8.5 of space left right now after the Killorn deal.

Palat and Drouin are also RFA in 17-18 with Johnson. We have $19 million in projected space. Johnson would get more than Palat, close to what Killorn signs for. Palat probably 5-5.5 million. I'm not so sure of what type of offer Drouin would be looking at. I trust in Yzerman to know which guys he can keep and who may have to walk or get moved.

lockman21 07-18-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16520961)
https://www.capfriendly.com/post_tax_calculator

That's including all taxes federal and state.

10.5mil per year in Detroit after all taxes: 5.6mi per year for 7 years= 39.2mil

8.5mil per year in TB: 5.1mil per year for 8 years=40.8mil.

So even though his cap hit would be higher in Detroit, he's making more in Tampa at a lower cap hit.

Interesting...I'm not sure how accurate that is. I just sent them an email, as it seems they are just comparing 1 vs 1 for tax rates. For example, check out Andrew McCutchen's pay stub:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-con...pay-stub-2.jpg

See how he's had state income taken out in Illinois, Missouri, etc.? Because everything is "per game", when he plays home games there, that's where taxes are taken out.

TMoore4075 07-18-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16521238)
Interesting...I'm not sure how accurate that is. I just sent them an email, as it seems they are just comparing 1 vs 1 for tax rates. For example, check out Andrew McCutchen's pay stub:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-con...pay-stub-2.jpg

See how he's had state income taken out in Illinois, Missouri, etc.? Because everything is "per game", when he plays home games there, that's where taxes are taken out.

The per game thing is interesting, especially when you get into some of these more recent NHL contracts where a large portion of the contracts are being paid in signing bonuses. If you get a large sum of it at once do you still get taxed at a per game basis? Stammer will get 9.5mil this year and 8.5mil of it is a signing bonus so his salary is actually only 1mil cause he's already got the 8.5mil up front.

fonzz41 07-18-2016 11:42 AM

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Interesting trade, Rangers sending Brassard to OTT for Zibenejad.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/07/18/...for-zibanejad/

Brassard quietly had a great last season for the Rags (I only noticed because he was on my fantasy team), so that's a solid pickup for the Sens. However, Zibenejad is rounding out into a really solid player as well and is a bit younger.

TMoore4075 07-18-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521283)
Interesting trade, Rangers sending Brassard to OTT for Zibenejad.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/07/18/...for-zibanejad/

Brassard quietly had a great last season for the Rags (I only noticed because he was on my fantasy team), so that's a solid pickup for the Sens. However, Zibenejad is rounding out into a really solid player as well and is a bit younger.

Rangers dump some salary over 3 years which is good for them. When everything is all said and done in a few years I think the Rangers win. Got rid of the salary and added a younger player.

fonzz41 07-18-2016 11:48 AM

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And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

TMoore4075 07-18-2016 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521302)
And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

1989?? Just guessing though. ;)

hailtopitt 07-18-2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521302)
And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

:lol so true

unccrombie 07-18-2016 11:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521302)
And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16521306)
1989?? Just guessing though. ;)

:lol
I don't hate the trade, but will miss DB.

fonzz41 07-18-2016 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by unccrombie (Post 16521316)
:lol
I don't hate the trade, but will miss DB.

He was really underrated, TBH. Started out pretty one-dimensional, but I thought he'd really rounded out his game the last couple seasons.

However, Zibenejad has a ton of upside. Plays hard and has the skill to match. Good trade for the Rags.

lockman21 07-18-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16521271)
The per game thing is interesting, especially when you get into some of these more recent NHL contracts where a large portion of the contracts are being paid in signing bonuses. If you get a large sum of it at once do you still get taxed at a per game basis? Stammer will get 9.5mil this year and 8.5mil of it is a signing bonus so his salary is actually only 1mil cause he's already got the 8.5mil up front.

Yeah...that changes a lot, too, since I'm sure that signing bonus is based in Florida so no state income tax on that...

Since when was hockey so much about math? :lol

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521283)
Interesting trade, Rangers sending Brassard to OTT for Zibenejad.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/07/18/...for-zibanejad/

Brassard quietly had a great last season for the Rags (I only noticed because he was on my fantasy team), so that's a solid pickup for the Sens. However, Zibenejad is rounding out into a really solid player as well and is a bit younger.

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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16521291)
Rangers dump some salary over 3 years which is good for them. When everything is all said and done in a few years I think the Rangers win. Got rid of the salary and added a younger player.

At what point do the Rags move Hank? I mean, what if they traded him for someone like Lehtonen and a couple first round picks? They clearly aren't winning the Stanley Cup this year (Rangers). Do they realize their window to win one with Hank is closed so they move him to a team with some cap space that's basically a goalie away from being a real SC contender? Maybe to the (gulp) Islanders for Halak, Michael Dal Colle, and a first? Maybe Nashville retains some salary for Rinne, sends him and Kevin Fiala over and a first?

unccrombie 07-18-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16521366)
At what point do the Rags move Hank? I mean, what if they traded him for someone like Lehtonen and a couple first round picks? They clearly aren't winning the Stanley Cup this year (Rangers). Do they realize their window to win one with Hank is closed so they move him to a team with some cap space that's basically a goalie away from being a real SC contender? Maybe to the (gulp) Islanders for Halak, Michael Dal Colle, and a first? Maybe Nashville retains some salary for Rinne, sends him and Kevin Fiala over and a first?

I don't think Hank gets moved anywhere in the Metro. Rangers will likely deal him to a team that's a contender, like you said, much like Ryan Miller. I was ready to start over once Talbot started showing signs of competency. Sucks to say, but it'll have to happen at some point. I don't want to see him fizzle like Marty.

fonzz41 07-18-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16521366)
At what point do the Rags move Hank? I mean, what if they traded him for someone like Lehtonen and a couple first round picks? They clearly aren't winning the Stanley Cup this year (Rangers). Do they realize their window to win one with Hank is closed so they move him to a team with some cap space that's basically a goalie away from being a real SC contender? Maybe to the (gulp) Islanders for Halak, Michael Dal Colle, and a first? Maybe Nashville retains some salary for Rinne, sends him and Kevin Fiala over and a first?

You have to think it's crossed their mind, right? Honestly, it seems difficult to move goaltenders right now. Especially highly-paid ones.

I'll be honest, I haven't even thought about it until right now, but the possibility of him coming to the Avs is slightly intriguing. I love Varly, but I think if Pickard continues to develop, he's our guy of the future. But still, we could use an established vet for another couple seasons probably. Would be kinda cool to trade Varly and a prospect to NYR for Hank, have Hank start for a couple seasons in COL and be a good example for Pickard, and then Pickard take the reigns.

Two concerns: Money, which isn't all that bad if we move Varly and have Iggy come off the books. And time. Hank is still at an age where he COULD potentially have 4-5 years left in him. In most scenarios, that would be a GOOD thing; in the one I outlined above, that's almost TOO much time, you know? I would think Pickard would be ready to start in 2 seasons... and I'd hate to have an $8 million (or whatever his salary is) whale sitting on the bench.

TMoore4075 07-18-2016 12:25 PM

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5 more years of him at 8.5mil is a lot and most of it is actually salary. Hard for a team to take that on when it's not just cap hit. I'd say he could retire early but he's still making $7mil in his 2nd to last year. He's not leaving that on the table.

lockman21 07-18-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by unccrombie (Post 16521381)
I don't think Hank gets moved anywhere in the Metro. Rangers will likely deal him to a team that's a contender, like you said, much like Ryan Miller. I was ready to start over once Talbot started showing signs of competency. Sucks to say, but it'll have to happen at some point. I don't want to see him fizzle like Marty.

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521394)
You have to think it's crossed their mind, right? Honestly, it seems difficult to move goaltenders right now. Especially highly-paid ones.

I'll be honest, I haven't even thought about it until right now, but the possibility of him coming to the Avs is slightly intriguing. I love Varly, but I think if Pickard continues to develop, he's our guy of the future. But still, we could use an established vet for another couple seasons probably. Would be kinda cool to trade Varly and a prospect to NYR for Hank, have Hank start for a couple seasons in COL and be a good example for Pickard, and then Pickard take the reigns.

Two concerns: Money, which isn't all that bad if we move Varly and have Iggy come off the books. And time. Hank is still at an age where he COULD potentially have 4-5 years left in him. In most scenarios, that would be a GOOD thing; in the one I outlined above, that's almost TOO much time, you know? I would think Pickard would be ready to start in 2 seasons... and I'd hate to have an $8 million (or whatever his salary is) whale sitting on the bench.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16521400)
5 more years of him at 8.5mil is a lot and most of it is actually salary. Hard for a team to take that on when it's not just cap hit. I'd say he could retire early but he's still making $7mil in his 2nd to last year. He's not leaving that on the table.

I had a whole long reply to this, then accidentally closed the tab :BANG

But short version - maybe that's where Nashville makes the most sense? Team is ready to contend for the Cup now, and Hank is a clear upgrade over Rinne. If they move Fiala to join Zibenejad in NY, the Rags have some solid building blocks for the future without having to go through the hard "overhaul" stage, still have a solid goaltender, get some money off the books in the future, etc. If Nashville retains a couple mil for Rinne, then they REALLY have some money off the books, and meanwhile, Nashville (IMO) becomes the immediate favorite in the West.

salrx95 07-18-2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521302)
And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

That's great.

fonzz41 07-18-2016 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 16522042)
That's great.

I dedicate that post to you, Sal.

salrx95 07-19-2016 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16522208)
I dedicate that post to you, Sal.

It was my birthday yesterday and that line was my favorite present. Thanks.

Don't need a bunch of wishes now. Thanks in advance. When you get to my age, we don't acknowledge them anyways :D:lorraine

barbogast 07-19-2016 05:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521302)
And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

:lol :lol

Happy bday, Sal

aeroshady 07-19-2016 06:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521283)
Interesting trade, Rangers sending Brassard to OTT for Zibenejad.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/07/18/...for-zibanejad/

Brassard quietly had a great last season for the Rags (I only noticed because he was on my fantasy team), so that's a solid pickup for the Sens. However, Zibenejad is rounding out into a really solid player as well and is a bit younger.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16521291)
Rangers dump some salary over 3 years which is good for them. When everything is all said and done in a few years I think the Rangers win. Got rid of the salary and added a younger player.

I love the trade for the Rangers for all the reasons already stated. I wil miss Brass, but this trade made sense for everyone involved. I only wish he didn't hear about it from Marty St. Louis!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16521302)
And when was the last time the Rangers got YOUNGER after a trade? ;)

We did trade Scott Gomez for our current captain a while back....

lockman21 07-19-2016 07:10 AM

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Timmy - interesting response from CapFriendly.

http://i.imgur.com/CevCmbK.png

TMoore4075 07-19-2016 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16522491)
Timmy - interesting response from CapFriendly.

http://i.imgur.com/CevCmbK.png

Yeah it would be amazingly crazy to work out that algorithm. lol Stammer's Tampa Bay calculation is probably pretty accurate though since he gets 8.5mil of it up front like we mentioned yesterday. Still awesome that they replied and why I love them and generalfanager. Shows how much of a dork I am but...whatever.

barbogast 07-20-2016 04:56 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
As if we needed any more reasons to be in love with Phil the Thrill

https://www.nhl.com/news/penguins-ph...al/c-281185764

lockman21 07-20-2016 08:03 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Have fun at DMB tonight Timmy!

hailtopitt 07-20-2016 08:04 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16524431)
As if we needed any more reasons to be in love with Phil the Thrill

https://www.nhl.com/news/penguins-ph...al/c-281185764

he's the best

Dramageek 07-20-2016 08:05 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16524431)
As if we needed any more reasons to be in love with Phil the Thrill

https://www.nhl.com/news/penguins-ph...al/c-281185764

Grade-A classy move. Goodness knows the hometown team isn't bringing the Cup by anytime soon. :lol

Seriously, though, great gesture by Uncle Phil.

Dramageek 07-20-2016 08:07 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Also, Barbs, looks like the Caps locked up Marcus Johansson for 3 years/$13.75 million. Seems like a reasonable move.

kev87lads 07-20-2016 09:09 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16524716)
Have fun at DMB tonight Timmy!

Seconded! Can't be worse than last night!

jrkarger 07-20-2016 09:27 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16524431)
As if we needed any more reasons to be in love with Phil the Thrill

https://www.nhl.com/news/penguins-ph...al/c-281185764

Quote:

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 16524718)
he's the best

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16524721)
Grade-A classy move. Goodness knows the hometown team isn't bringing the Cup by anytime soon. :lol

Seriously, though, great gesture by Uncle Phil.

Awesome gesture by Big Uncle Phil. What a guy.

barbogast 07-20-2016 10:45 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16524723)
Also, Barbs, looks like the Caps locked up Marcus Johansson for 3 years/$13.75 million. Seems like a reasonable move.

Yep saw that this morning. Really good job by BMac again. Mojo is highly underrated and I'm very glad to keep him

Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16524854)
Seconded! Can't be worse than last night!

Oh if only we could all be as lucky as Kev when it comes to 2016 DMB setlists

Roose13 07-20-2016 11:13 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Holy shit I just saw that set list. That looks horrible!

kev87lads 07-20-2016 11:32 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16525061)
Yep saw that this morning. Really good job by BMac again. Mojo is highly underrated and I'm very glad to keep him



Oh if only we could all be as lucky as Kev when it comes to 2016 DMB setlists

You could have done SPAC instead of Camden..... people make choices.

barbogast 07-20-2016 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16525141)
You could have done SPAC instead of Camden..... people make choices.

Hey at least we'll always have Cville. That was a great one

Lcsulla 07-20-2016 12:02 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16524716)
Have fun at DMB tonight Timmy!

I gave Carter a green Whalers jersey recently, if anyone sees him in it please let me know, he seemed genuinely appreciative.

JRS1386 07-20-2016 12:45 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16525157)
Hey at least we'll always have Cville. That was a great one

That was a great show

lockman21 07-20-2016 01:04 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Wow, Brad Richards retires. Thought he still might have something left in the tank, but looks like he's hanging up the skates.

Really nice career he had. Shame that he had to go through what he did in New York because of his salary. Never fault a guy for taking money when he can get it, but always sucks when the negative stuff that clearly comes with higher expectations surrounding salary ends up dragging someone down.

Stick tap to Brad on a nice career.

Edit: Looks like he turned down a "good offer from a good team" and opted for retirement. Good for him.

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/sta...51807562211328

fonzz41 07-20-2016 02:52 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16525308)
Wow, Brad Richards retires. Thought he still might have something left in the tank, but looks like he's hanging up the skates.

Really nice career he had. Shame that he had to go through what he did in New York because of his salary. Never fault a guy for taking money when he can get it, but always sucks when the negative stuff that clearly comes with higher expectations surrounding salary ends up dragging someone down.

Stick tap to Brad on a nice career.

Edit: Looks like he turned down a "good offer from a good team" and opted for retirement. Good for him.

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/sta...51807562211328

Big time stick tap.

barbogast 07-20-2016 03:14 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I'm curious which team made the offer to Richards

Good for him for opting for the retirement

TMoore4075 07-20-2016 03:34 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Say Goodbye tonight right?? Right??? Probably not.

lockman21 07-20-2016 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16525561)
Say Goodbye tonight right?? Right??? Probably not.

Here's the end of your show -

Say Goodbye (tease) >
Gravedigger
Jimi Thing >
Sexy MF
---------------------
Say Goodbye (tease) >
Gravedigger (reprise)

dmbetc 07-20-2016 04:35 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Brad Richards *clap clap*

dmbetc 07-20-2016 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16525561)
Say Goodbye tonight right?? Right??? Probably not.

Yeah...Say Goodbye to your hopes & dreams

dmbetc 07-20-2016 04:48 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Oh and also,

I hope you all die in a fucking fire.

trd1610 07-20-2016 05:05 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Good for Brad, great player, great Bolt. Hope retirement treats him well

barbogast 07-20-2016 05:41 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16525641)
Oh and also,

I hope you all die in a fucking fire.

Better watch out, Lcsulla has had Enough! of this kind of talk

lockman21 07-20-2016 07:34 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16525711)
Better watch out, Lcsulla has had Enough! of this kind of talk

Banned. See ya Barbs.

Fuckin loser.

barbogast 07-21-2016 05:42 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Sorry you didn't get your song, Timmy

aeroshady 07-21-2016 06:47 AM

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I don't even care if the Rangers suck this year. I just want hockey to watch again. July is the worst month as a hockey fan because there is nothing to be excited about. The draft and free agent signings are over and we are still months away from camps...

kev87lads 07-21-2016 07:04 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Yeah. Sorry Timmy. Was rooting for ya. Hell of an encore though. My 1st and 3rd favorite DMB songs. I would have left happy. Didn't get either of those at SPAC.

fonzz41 07-21-2016 07:49 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
My favorite part of the offseason is knowing that it's July and the only defenseman the Avalanche have added are Fedor Tyutin and Patrick Wiercioch.

Awesome.

barbogast 07-21-2016 07:52 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I'm just glad the Caps didn't panic and do anything stupid. Stay the course. Minor improvements is all that was needed. Plus they got Johannson done. Too bad they couldn't get a deal done with Mike Richards. That's my only disappointment thus far.

~Crashintome89~ 07-22-2016 05:17 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16526573)
My favorite part of the offseason is knowing that it's July and the only defenseman the Avalanche have added are Fedor Tyutin and Patrick Wiercioch.

Awesome.

Was Wiecioch from Ottawa? If that's the same guy, I like him. Tyutin won't give you anything.

~Crashintome89~ 07-22-2016 05:25 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I also just saw Lsculla's "Enough" thread and all I want to say is, "I love you all."

JRS1386 07-22-2016 06:01 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16527740)
I also just saw Lsculla's "Enough" thread and all I want to say is, "I love you all."

I hope you ruin your favorite pair of pants and lose one half of your favorite pair of socks

barbogast 07-22-2016 06:08 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 16527763)
I hope you ruin your favorite pair of pants and lose one half of your favorite pair of socks

Flyer on Flyer crime. I like it.

barbogast 07-22-2016 06:09 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/cam...mplants-story/

Beautiful TPT piece from Cam Ward

kev87lads 07-22-2016 06:57 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I totally missed something with lcsulla. What did I miss?

barbogast 07-22-2016 07:03 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16527861)
I totally missed something with lcsulla. What did I miss?

Stickied at the top of ndmbc. Not sure what prompted it though.

fonzz41 07-22-2016 07:17 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16527735)
Was Wiecioch from Ottawa? If that's the same guy, I like him. Tyutin won't give you anything.

Yeah, him. I was actually pleasantly surprised when I saw the signing. An astute one by Joe. But alas, he's a bottom pair d-man. He'll play 12 minutes a night. They'll be 12 good minutes probably, but it really doesn't address the big need the Avs have.

Joe is great at making these clever, fill-in-the-gaps signings, but aside from pulling the trigger on the ROR deal last year, seems perhaps overly cautious at making the big move. Maybe just looking for the right deal and his patience will be rewarded?
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16527874)
Stickied at the top of ndmbc. Not sure what prompted it though.

I missed it too. :lol

Little does everyone outside our good thread know that chirping is actually a sign of endearment. You pieces of shit.

Dramageek 07-22-2016 07:37 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16527766)
Flyer on Flyer crime. I like it.

:lol I expect nothing less.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16527912)
Yeah, him. I was actually pleasantly surprised when I saw the signing. An astute one by Joe. But alas, he's a bottom pair d-man. He'll play 12 minutes a night. They'll be 12 good minutes probably, but it really doesn't address the big need the Avs have.

Joe is great at making these clever, fill-in-the-gaps signings, but aside from pulling the trigger on the ROR deal last year, seems perhaps overly cautious at making the big move. Maybe just looking for the right deal and his patience will be rewarded?

I missed it too. :lol

Little does everyone outside our good thread know that chirping is actually a sign of endearment. You pieces of shit.

:lol Seriously! Bunch of wankers, the lot of you! :lol

Here's Phil Kessel's grandma chugging champagne out of the Cup. Enjoy. (The offseason is that much better when the team you follow wins it all, as our Chicago and Kings fans are well aware of.)

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/wa...e-stanley-cup/

fonzz41 07-22-2016 07:40 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
How crazy was the clutch and grab era?

https://twitter.com/adater/status/756397087537770496

Dramageek 07-22-2016 07:55 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16527980)
How crazy was the clutch and grab era?

https://twitter.com/adater/status/756397087537770496

That's why Mario Lemieux said "Screw you guys, I'm out."

~Crashintome89~ 07-22-2016 08:07 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dramageek (Post 16528020)
That's why Mario Lemieux said "Screw you guys, I'm out."

yeah, cause he's a little girly man.

TMoore4075 07-22-2016 08:12 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16527980)
How crazy was the clutch and grab era?

https://twitter.com/adater/status/756397087537770496

That's why I laugh at when players bitch now. Not that they might not have an argument that it was a penalty but they are nothing compared to what guys dealt with from about 94-2004. Imagine what guys like Forsberg, Fedorov, Kariya etc could do today.

Lcsulla 07-22-2016 08:19 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16527861)
I totally missed something with lcsulla. What did I miss?

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16527874)
Stickied at the top of ndmbc. Not sure what prompted it though.

Absolutely nothing to do with anyone in here, they only reason this particular thread even came up is because someone asked. Both Sarah and I are in here often enough to know there is no real malice in 99% of the posts, just good natured rivalry and ribbing and a bunch of mutual respect. That thread I made was in response to all the political and PC shit clouding nDMB where people are just flat out TRYING to get into arguments, they are not debating - they have already picked a side and anyone who does not agree with them gets attacked by a few users.

hailtopitt 07-22-2016 08:29 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 16527980)
How crazy was the clutch and grab era?

https://twitter.com/adater/status/756397087537770496

it's not a coincidence that the Devils were prominent during this time

~Crashintome89~ 07-22-2016 08:49 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I think the NHL thread is the last place to look for malice and intent to injure. :lol :lol

hailtopitt 07-22-2016 08:51 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16528181)
I think the NHL thread is the last place to look for malice and intent to injure. :lol :lol

unless Flyers are involved ;)

Lcsulla 07-22-2016 09:06 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
We have a smaller group of people than most of the other commonly used sports threads, almost all of whom are knowledgeable of hockey and respectful. Yeah, we all cheer for our teams and occasionally blow off some steam (or debate the value of players - ie Kane vs Crosby for Hart) with a rant but for the most part any real malice is almost non-existent. I mean, how many other sports threads here have common congratulations posts when some team knocks out the team you cheer for and you congratulate them for a great series.

We would probably be even more civilized if Jamie Benn was actually a friggin center idiots! :lol


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