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As my Grandmother tells me “adding a violin to any band will instantly increase ticket demand and album sales”.
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My grandma always told me "This band is fucked."
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Why I am production has always been blasted on here with how dull the final version came out.
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It's kind of a weird song for DMB. I remember watching one of those docs and someone saying they needed a song like "My Sharona", or that riff reminded them of it. I'm probably not remembering exactly. I'm assuming it's Alsop one of those that Rob Cavallo had them jam on for a few minutes on that main riff, and then asked them where it should go from there. The main riff is something that would have been on Stand Up and that would have been the entirety of the song. But it has a TON of parts, changes, solos. It's more complicated than it sounds. The production itself is just a bit smooshed. Not enough separation between instruments for my taste and of course pushed to the max on loudness. It does have a lot of layers to it, which I like. Textures, multiple things going on at once. |
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I never understood people’s fascination with attendance and what to base it on. Who cares? Are you still going to shows? Are you having a good time and enjoy seeing/hearing the band? There is 0 data on increase/decrease in attendance beyond what fans on Ants think, and generally it’s based on personal thoughts or preferences. Some think because they talk to a few people out of 20,000 after a show the data is pointing to some hard facts that mean something. They don’t, and nothing any of us say or do will change the way this band operates.
They’re still playing the same sheds they have been for over two decades, they’re adding fall tours, Dave and Tim tours, European dates, they’ve solidified their claim on the Gorge for Labor Day, and most years they have locked in the big venues on big weekends. Like all bands, they mature, they grow, they change and fans come and go. The only data I see is that DMB is alive and well every summer and delivers the shows they want to deliver. |
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Even if you tried to compare ticket sales over the last couple years per venue it's difficult for many reasons that have nothing to do with a violin
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never understood why they got rid of roi's playing over the intro to why i am, love that little ditty
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My favorite thing this band has done with Why I Am is have an ODH tease into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_AshS30Pe8 I'm happy with how well Big Whiskey has held up over these last 13 years. |
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The worst thing the band did with Why I Am was chop the intro off. The April Sessions cut was so much better with the extended bit of intro.
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I agree it's pretty unlikely they drop an album without some ramp up and promo stuff like they always do.
Not impossible that they've suddenly gotten with the times, though... plus the music business is dirty, I'm sure management has ways to make sure an album charts well beyond an extended pre-order period. Choosing a day where other big names aren't dropping anything, prominent placement on streaming services, etc. Didn't Come Tomorrow benefit because they bundled it with concert tickets? |
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Or par for the course for a band that's largely a legacy act in a business where album sales are a drop in the bucket compared to touring revenue. |
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All of them sold out or if they weren't it was tough to say otherwise being in the venue. This band likes to play live. I think making albums is obviously a huge hassle for them. It sounds like it's always been outside of those first 2 studio records. If they just play live, they seem to be happiest. I just assumed Roi and Boyd were the more complicated pieces of the group, and with them both no longer in the process, I thought we'd have more records by now. It really seems though that Dave is the one holding them up with perfectionism, over analyzing, and then possibly letting RCA have too much decision power in the art itself. I don't know logistics/legality behind releasing albums within a contract. It's highly likely though that DMB reformulated their original release contract to stay with RCA, but perhaps not required to release x amount of albums anymore. Or maybe it's like 1 every 5 years or something, essentially keeping them part of the RCA family indefinitely. |
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For bands like DMB, who still have crazy amounts of fans, the idea that they would even sell 100,000 units anymore is unlikely. So what's the point of making them from a financial perspective? |
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The Avett Brothers talk about how albums are more a method of sharing new tunes or new recordings of tunes (originals in a different style, covers, etc.). They note that they don’t make any significant money from sales, but as creative artists that still want to and do write songs, they want folks to be able hear them outside of seeing the band live. As with DMB, they make their real money touring. But, again, as working artists in the medium of music, they write, record, and release/sell collections of music to and for their fans.
DMB has made far more money (albums sales, concert revenue, merch sales, etc.) than the Avetts ever will and Dave has expressed somewhat regularly that the recording process I brings him little joy. Which is part of why the continued work on the impending release is strange despite being par for the course. Dave seemed genuinely happy and enthusiastic about the songs he wrote that the band initially recorded in the 2nd half of 2020. It really seemed like he couldn’t wait to share the music with us. But regardless of all the mitigating circumstances, it's strange that folks want to argue with other DMB fans about just sucking it up and waiting until if gets released...if ever. |
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As a fan of DMB though, I don't think of them as a legacy act. I want to hear them play newer material as well as classic songs. I also want to hear brand spanking new songs, as I still view Dave as a songwriter that still has plenty of gas in the tank. He's more like Neil Young than Billie Joel in that regard. I'm sure Pearl Jam and Phish fans view those bands in the same way. |
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I was actually at the 10/3/2019 Avett Bros show which was the day before they offically released Closer Than Together which like the next DMB album will be was the 10th Avett Bros Studio Album. That album wasn't well received by many fans including myself. I don't want DMB to have a closer than together with this new album I want them to get it right no matter how long it takes. |
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As far as arguing goes, why be on a message forum if you just politely agree with everything all the time. It's fun to quibble. |
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I am always surprised at shows how many people are there for their first time, or haven't been in a long time. But it's not like the audience is going to re live their highschool/college glory days. It's more to enjoy the show. A lot of times they're pleasantly surprised they don't know every single song and want to hear more of the stuff they don't know like Big Whiskey or AFTW. |
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Where is this version of why I am?
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Garden Hose > Seven
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Also, didn't the studio version of TGIY originally have the jam at the end that's played live?
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I haven’t heard anything about that but I’d be interested in hearing it haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I think I'd rather have Madman's Eyes than Can't Stop keeping the Middle East breakdown, if that was a result of that.
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As my Grandmother tells me “if you’re gonna play a Middle Eastern scale song make it Last Stop or Minarets”.
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peoples grandmas sure know a lot about DMB huh?
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May have just been rough for them to hear over and over during playback. Definitely a better edit, but I can see a reason why they'd have cut it.
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I don't know monizzle. Are some of his takes off? Sure. Do I appreciate his passion and what he brings to the community? 100% |
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I also said "his passion" & "what he brings to the community".
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So, we all had our favorite band go back into the studio not too long ago. Surely we're not all bickering about nonsense?
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Do you have any dates for their next social media picture? |
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https://twitter.com/davematthewsbnd/...53577476030464 Someone gets paid to make these posts |
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It appears people do care about a new album after all. |
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:lol :lol the comments tho...
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That point I made was based listening to various opinions. Could my sample size be skewed? That's possible. Some of those opinions came from people I work with, friends, people across the spectrum of the fan community from here to the polar opposite DMB family to random strangers who call into my show and random seat neighbors I talk to at a show. I have talked to new fans and soaked in information and feeback from fans who have followed the band since the early 90s. When I share my points I am not saying other peoples opinions don't matter and I don't claim to know what everyone in the community is saying. My personal goal in this community is to not live in an echochamber. If I say something or predict something and I am wrong I am the first person to admit that take was wrong (i.e. when I gave an opinoin in late 2020 that DMB wouldn't return to the stage till the fall of 2021). |
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Copperpot posted a bit of the clip the behind the music or some such doc about the band from way back. The one where one of the folks says Boyd was classically trained and viewed as a prodigy. I've never heard anything I'd think of or really associate with classical training in Boyd's playing. It was always more like a Cajun and/or raw bluegrass fiddle sound, but nothing fancy. The arranged parts were clearly something more and different, but we've come to learn that these were often guiding/created by Roi. But from the beginning Boyd's had plenty of rough nights and performances. I did like the violin in the band and appreciate the times we saw them when he was on, but now that they've incorporated most of his parts back into the tunes, I'm fine without him. TL/DR...your grandma is rather perceptive. :D:thumbsup |
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How often is this happening? Like if I joined a DMB Facebook group right now and started a post about violins, people would just start blowing it up? Reddit DMB has maybe 6 active people left in it so that's out. |
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Is this like some cancel Monizzle day or something that I missed?
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-on social media forums - talking to fans before and after shows (and one fan yelling at me during the show) - talking to friends and co workers who like DMB outside of a show environment - fans calling into the streams I do or talking about it in the chat (like literally I will be talking about the onsale and in the chat someone is complaining about boyd out the blue) - fans commenting on videos I upload from a given show - Social Media posts from the band (Band announces tickets are onsale and a fan comments about violin needing to be back) |
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Would be totally different if you said "hey there are some other viewpoints out there that support this I have heard in first hand accounts from people at shows, just putting it out there but feel free to have your own opinion". Instead you have a laundry list of statements like these. |
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In both cases with more confidence on the new album opinion and a belief but not 100% certainty on the violin impacting ticket sales I never said someone couldn't be upset that there was no album out. I never said nobody could disagree and I think you and a few others made some good points about the violin take I had. |
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Had to speak up against it after reading some of this bullshit. |
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having an opinion, something intolerable on am.org
I can understand where the criticism is coming from though |
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Do we think by the time the band releases this album there may be a new technology or medium we use to hear it?
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Some banter and heat is fine but I can't tolerate persistent bashing and felt a need to speak up. Happy to leave it at that. |
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Stefan posted an Instagram story. It's a picture of him sitting in a studio, with the following text...
"My favorite studio vibe Not DMB But something Spectacular!!" Stefan confirms his favorite studio vibe is not DMB and DMB studio vibes are not spectacular. New album 2030 confirmed. |
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This is the passion needed in the DMB community. |
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This is the longest wait for chili I have ever seen.
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Trying to back read this thread is a circuitous minefield- what's the latest and greatest info/status on the new record?
Probably 450 pages back there was a post someone was updating that had an iterative timeline of info that had come out- can we get an update of that? |
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There is no timeline, there is no information other than speculation and people claiming to have heard something sometime. There will likely be a new album at some point, and we'll find out when we see an announcement from the band. Until then, we can go about our lives.
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They laid down more stuff, mostly horns and vocals after Hollywood Bowl. This was confirmed by posts by band members, and some sources confirmed a few things including 2 tracks mentioned as being worked on specifically. I believe we already knew one of those was Break Free just by looking at Dave’s sheet music and that was confirmed along with STTMB. No real surprises there.
No one that I’m aware of has details in a specific timeline besides having it come out pre summer tour 2023. Could it somehow come out before the end of the year? I guess so, but I have not heard one peep about that whatsoever. |
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I agree that they don't really fit the strict definition of "legacy act," but they haven't had an album that moved the needle culturally since Everyday, the fanbase isn't growing or getting any younger, and you're guaranteed to hear at least a couple songs that got a lot of radio play in the 90s on any given night. |
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I like Baby Blue a lot
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Baby Blue is a shame that it doesn't get played at all. |
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STTMB sucks. Only Dave would put that garbage on an album
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