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Roose13 06-26-2017 11:59 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16823600)
Gotta make sure everyone sees this masterpiece

https://twitter.com/jasondemers5/sta...19094732754945

*makes wookie call in delight*

Roose13 06-26-2017 01:03 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
This was a nice little entry by MAF on TPT: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/ma...ou-pittsburgh/

(fuck the Pens)

bradshaw06 06-26-2017 01:04 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Who is cutting up onions in here?

Roose13 06-26-2017 01:06 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Also loved that MAF kept the first puck he ever stopped from Mario in practice.

jrkarger 06-26-2017 03:07 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Congrats to the Recchi-n Ball!!!!

TMoore4075 06-26-2017 03:11 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Kariya and Selanne together only makes sense.

aeroshady 06-27-2017 04:09 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Ah, the days of summer have hit where this thread gets silent. Several months to hockey again still........

barbogast 06-27-2017 04:13 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Oh hey Greg.

So, how early are our teams getting bounced next year? Round 1 for you and round 2 for me??

fonzz41 06-27-2017 06:37 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Apparently there was a deal that included Hamonic and a 1st for Duchene.

And Sakic (obviously) turned it down.

This is my life.

dmbetc 06-27-2017 07:42 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Happy birthday Russo!!!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...ckey-stuff.jpg

aeroshady 06-27-2017 10:09 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16824867)
Oh hey Greg.

So, how early are our teams getting bounced next year? Round 1 for you and round 2 for me??

I just hope we make the playoffs :lol

Roose13 06-28-2017 07:58 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16825026)

Ah, the New York Rangers, the franchise that had a really hard time winning championships with five other teams in the league. :)

Thanks Sarah! :hug

TMoore4075 06-28-2017 09:46 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
The one negative (only one) of getting that generational player is the salary. McDavid is reportedly going to get 8 years at 13.25mil per. Would still love to have him or Matthews but wow.

aeroshady 06-28-2017 09:49 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roose13 (Post 16825324)
Ah, the New York Rangers, the franchise that had a really hard time winning championships with five other teams in the league. :)

Thanks Sarah! :hug

Hey, those 5 other teams were really good!

:BANG


Edit: Happy birthday though!!

TheLastPig 06-28-2017 10:32 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16825415)
The one negative (only one) of getting that generational player is the salary. McDavid is reportedly going to get 8 years at 13.25mil per. Would still love to have him or Matthews but wow.

4.5 mil per more than crosby makes :lol

TMoore4075 06-28-2017 10:50 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16825472)
4.5 mil per more than crosby makes :lol

Cant really compare the 2. Still the same % of the cap as what Crosby's was in what 07 or 08 when he signed 2nd. Crosby would have gotten the same had the cap been 75 mil back then. Oilers are more fucked if the cap stays stagnant. Pens benefited from the cap going up every year.

TheLastPig 06-28-2017 10:57 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16825495)
Cant really compare the 2. Still the same % of the cap as what Crosby's was in what 07 or 08 when he signed 2nd. Crosby would have gotten the same had the cap been 75 mil back then. Oilers are more fucked if the cap stays stagnant. Pens benefited from the cap going up every year.

You sure?


Sid signed his extension deal in 2012, took effect in 13-14 season.

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2017 10:58 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
He won't take his full value, not unless he doesn't want to win a Cup any time soon.

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2017 11:01 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16825502)
You sure?


Sid signed his extension deal in 2012, took effect in 13-14 season.

correct, and the cap hit was still 8.7

TheLastPig 06-28-2017 11:03 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16825510)
correct, and the cap hit was still 8.7

Was talking about it being the same % of the cap.

Id just like to see the numbers broken down because I dont know what the cap was then.

TMoore4075 06-28-2017 11:04 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16825502)
You sure?


Sid signed his extension deal in 2012, took effect in 13-14 season.

I'm talking his 2nd deal which started in 08-09 and was 8.7mil and signed in the summer of 07 so of the then 50.7 mil cap was 17% of it. So if the cap was 25mil higher back then, Sid probably was gonna make 13mil too.

TheLastPig 06-28-2017 11:05 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16825514)
I'm talking his 2nd deal which started in 08-09 and was 8.7mil and signed in the summer of 07 so of the then 50.7 mil cap was 17% of it. So if the cap was 25mil higher back then, Sid probably was gonna make 13mil too.

ah gotcha :thumbsup

TMoore4075 06-28-2017 11:08 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
I'm hoping we get some big movement on Saturday. Even though some are older, at least it could be fun. Would be weird to see Thornton and Marleau with different teams.

TheLastPig 06-28-2017 11:10 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Lots of Thornton talk around here but I really dont want him.

Also trade rumors of some bigger deal centered Maatta and Duchene popped up today... but it makes no sense for the Pens to deal a defensemen for a center.

TMoore4075 06-28-2017 11:13 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
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Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16825524)
Lots of Thornton talk around here but I really dont want him.

Also trade rumors of some bigger deal centered Maatta and Duchene popped up today.

Saw that Duchesne thing earlier. Really think they'd do that?

Some rumors around here is Wings in on Daley or Hainsey. Daley I get, although his term might be bigger in a bidding war. Hainsey doesn't make this team better at all. I get it as depth because the Wings D in the minors are all pretty young but...no. lol

TheLastPig 06-28-2017 11:15 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16825531)
Saw that Duchesne thing earlier. Really think they'd do that?

Some rumors around here is Wings in on Daley or Hainsey. Daley I get, although his term might be bigger in a bidding war. Hainsey doesn't make this team better at all. I get it as depth because the Wings D in the minors are all pretty young but...no. lol

With how weak the D core is right now I really really doubt it.

They do need to get a 3rd line C signed but dealing one of your top 4 D isnt a smart idea.

Lots of fans are down on Maatta here but I dont get the sense that the team is as much.

Dumoulin is a big priority to me, they need to hammer a deal out to keep him long term, love what he brings.

TMoore4075 06-28-2017 11:17 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastPig (Post 16825535)
With how weak the D core is right now I really really doubt it.

They do need to get a 3rd line C signed but dealing one of your top 4 D isnt a smart idea.

Lots of fans are down on Maatta here but I dont get the sense that the team is as much.

He's amazingly young still. I can't imagine they'd give up on that now.

aeroshady 06-28-2017 11:48 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
Off the top of your head, rank the teams in the NHL in order of how close you think they are to winning a Stanley Cup. So #1 would be a team you think can win it next season and #31 would be a team you think may never win it.

1. Pittsburgh
2. Nashville
3. St. Louis
4. Anaheim
5. Minnesota
6. Edmonton
7. Tampa Bay
8. Chicago
9. NY Rangers
10. San Jose
11. Washington
12. Toronto
13. Ottawa
14. Boston
15. Montreal
16. LA Kings
17. Columbus
18. Winnipeg
19. Calgary
20. Dallas
21. New Jersey
22. New York Islanders
23. Phoenix
24. Florida
25. Vancouver
26. Detroit
27. Philadelphia
28. Buffalo
29. Carolina
30. Colorado
31. Las Vegas

Again, this was off the top of my head and no real thought put into it. I am sure if I took a longer look at this list I would re-rank a few.

TMoore4075 06-28-2017 11:50 AM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
I'll let you know around July 4th once most of the FA stuff has settled.

~Crashintome89~ 06-28-2017 12:00 PM

Re: The NHL Thread (Penns are garage league champs)
 
here is my list:

1. Penguins
2. Oilers
3. Ducks
4. Caps
5. Leafs
6. Blues
7. Preds
8. Blackhawks
9. Sharks
10. Wild
11. Blue Jackets
12. Lightning
13. Rangers
14. Canadiens
15. Kings
16. Flyers
17. Flames
18. Senators
19. Bruins
20. Jets
21. Panthers
22. Stars
23. Red Wings
24. Islanders
25. Canucks
26. Hurricanes
27. Sabres
28. Avalanche
29. Devils
30. Knights
31. Coyotes


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