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Giant Jew 07-01-2011 07:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I just want hockey season to start

~Crashintome89~ 07-01-2011 07:34 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12741409)
Carcillo was just on WGN radio, the Blackhawks radio station. The guy on the air basically just declared him the greatest signing in Blackhawks history

Carcillo makes Gandhi look like a child pornographer.

Bron Yr Aur 07-01-2011 07:46 PM

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Carcillo is a clown, and I dread a 4th line of Carcillo/Mayers/Scott. I'm not going to judge the moves (too much) until I see the team in action.

joepsu0985 07-01-2011 07:53 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I feel like a girlfriend cheated on me, then told me so, and that the other guy was better than me, and that I'm not good enough for her.

DmBand801 07-01-2011 08:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
All I'm going to say is that if the Panthers lock up Vokoun, watch out. They're going to be a scrappy bunch of bastards.

joepsu0985 07-01-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DmBand801 (Post 12741500)
All I'm going to say is that if the Panthers lock up Vokoun, watch out. They're going to be a scrappy bunch of bastards.

I want to be part of that training camp on day one, just to see how the players interact. It is like they drafted an entire team.

monkeyman68 07-01-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by schreiber89 (Post 12739109)
The Sabres really improved their defense - they would have destroyed Philly with these guys in the lineup

Great point :rolleyes

I can do that too! If the Flyers had Illya, they would have swept the Sabres!!!!

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Originally Posted by dduncan6er (Post 12740337)
Does anyone have a serious explanation for the Flyers' moves? I'm legitimately curious about what they are thinking.

Homer and Ed have been on a week long bender with Charlie Sheen?

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Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 12740356)
When the Flyers win the cup next year I am quoting you all (well no I am not but let's pretend).

haha, I don't think we have to worry about that



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Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12740664)
Enjoy him. But dont go to the games to see him, you wont notice him. Pens fans only caught a glimpse of Max Talbot when was out in the South Side. He has been invisible on the ice for the past 25 years. He just wanted to sign in Philly to be on 24/7 again.

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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12740679)
You're right. I never even saw him during Game 7 in the 2009 SCF.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

nice

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Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741029)
I'm not sure how I feel about Leino, they probably overpaid by a bit but at the same time got one of the better offensive players available. The word right now is that they will try to play him at center. Philly fans, can Leino play center well? Did he at all in Philly?

Overpaid a bunch. The only thing Leino does well game in and game out is turn the puck over at the other team's blue line with his back to the play. So happy the Flyers let him walk

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Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12741159)
In Pittsburgh, the hate is at an all time level. Jagr, is the most hated athlete ever. I didn't think my hatred for the Flyers could grow. Today it did.

I love it! :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12741197)
umm....Carcillo?

Glad he is off our hands. Chi and Van games are going to be very fun to watch though

Giant Jew 07-01-2011 10:22 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 12741719)





Overpaid a bunch. The only thing Leino does well game in and game out is turn the puck over at the other team's blue line with his back to the play. So happy the Flyers let him walk




I have not heard this from one other person in regards to Leino.

sgtpeppr 07-01-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741788)
I have not heard this from one other person in regards to Leino.

Leino's certainly got skill and potential... but for a 27 year old whose been in the league for 4 years, he's just not playing like a guy worth 4.5mil a year. That's not to say that Buffalo won't afford him more ice time and opportunities to improve up to that standard... only time will tell on that one.

Giant Jew 07-01-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtpeppr (Post 12741800)
Leino's certainly got skill and potential... but for a 27 year old whose been in the league for 4 years, he's just not playing like a guy worth 4.5mil a year. That's not to say that Buffalo won't afford him more ice time and opportunities to improve up to that standard... only time will tell on that one.

Agreed, Sabres front office must really see a lot of potential in Leino to offer him that sort of contract. I think his performance in the playoffs is a big part of that. It definitely is a gamble that could easily backfire for Buffalo but at the same time could work out well. Like you said, only time will tell. I still think a trade is on the way for the Sabres at some point, they have a plethora of players at both wing and D. Unfortunately, I'm afraid most of the players they are willing to trade probably won't net too much in return.

DMBzilla 07-01-2011 10:37 PM

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If nothing else, the upcoming Flyers season should be pretty interesting.

monkeyman68 07-01-2011 10:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741788)
I have not heard this from one other person in regards to Leino.

I really don't know what to tell you. Leino is brutal. He holds onto the puck too long, he attempts too many ill advised passes, and he had a knack for TO's at the worst possible moment for the Flyers.

The Hartnell, Briere, Leino line was the Flyers first line. I've never seen a first line winger get benched as much as Leino did during extended portions of games

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Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741803)
Agreed, Sabres front office must really see a lot of potential in Leino to offer him that sort of contract. I think his performance in the playoffs is a big part of that. It definitely is a gamble that could easily backfire for Buffalo but at the same time could work out well. Like you said, only time will tell. I still think a trade is on the way for the Sabres at some point, they have a plethora of players at both wing and D. Unfortunately, I'm afraid most of the players they are willing to trade probably won't net too much in return.

That's one way to look at it

Another way to look at it is to accept the truth: the Sabres overpaid Leino. I can say with 100% certainty that Leino will never live up to the contract that you guys signed him

Giant Jew 07-01-2011 10:44 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 12741812)
I really don't know what to tell you. Leino is brutal. He holds onto the puck too long, he attempts too many ill advised passes, and he had a knack for TO's at the worst possible moment for the Flyers.

The Hartnell, Briere, Leino line was the Flyers first line. I've never seen a first line winger get benched as much as Leino did during extended portions of games



That's one way to look at it

Another way to look at it is to accept the truth: the Sabres overpaid Leino. I can say with 100% certainty that Leino will never live up to the contract that you guys signed him


I can't really say your wrong because I'm not too familiar with Leino other than that game winner against the Sabs in game 6 and his playoff performance the year before. But I have not heard anyone (including Flyers fans) with the kind of negativity towards Leino that you have, so I'll wait and see for myself.

If Leino puts up 25 Goals 40 Assists in Buffalo which is very possible considering he put up 19 and 34 in Philly, do you not think he is worth it? maybe slightly overpayed but not awful.

DMBzilla 07-01-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741815)
I can't really say your wrong because I'm not too familiar with Leino other than that game winner against the Sabs in game 6 and his playoff performance the year before. But I have not heard anyone (including Flyers fans) with the kind of negativity towards Leino that you have, so I'll wait and see for myself.

If Leino puts up 25 Goals 40 Assists in Buffalo which is very possible considering he put up 19 and 34 in Philly, do you not think he is worth it? maybe slightly overpayed but not awful

One Flyers fan's take...

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...ear-27-million

Giant Jew 07-01-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DMBzilla (Post 12741816)

Interesting. I was originally a bit upset when I first heard about the deal so I'm just trying to be a little bit positive about it. I've heard plenty of good things about him to think he could turn out well. It's also just easy to be positive about the Sabres right now since they are going to be a much better team anyways just by their defensive improvements.

sgtpeppr 07-01-2011 10:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741815)
I can't really say your wrong because I'm not too familiar with Leino other than that game winner against the Sabs in game 6 and his playoff performance the year before. But I have not heard anyone (including Flyers fans) with the kind of negativity towards Leino that you have, so I'll wait and see for myself.

If Leino puts up 25 Goals 40 Assists in Buffalo which is very possible considering he put up 19 and 34 in Philly, do you not think he is worth it? maybe slightly overpayed but not awful.

Monkeyman's clearly got deeper seeded issues. He always seems to be negative in his communications.

sgtpeppr 07-01-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741819)
Interesting. I was originally a bit upset when I first heard about the deal so I'm just trying to be a little bit positive about it. I've heard plenty of good things about him to think he could turn out well. It's also just easy to be positive about the Sabres right now since they are going to be a much better team anyways just by their defensive improvements.

Look at it this way, he will definitely be a good addition to the Sabers for several years. I just can't say for sure whether he will live up to that salary, and when he does, when will it be.

monkeyman68 07-01-2011 11:14 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by sgtpeppr (Post 12741821)
Monkeyman's clearly got deeper seeded issues. He always seems to be negative in his communications.

Yup. I'm a basket case

JRS1386 07-01-2011 11:54 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
After the dust has settled I really don't think the Flyers are any worse off than they were last year. There will definitely be a lot of new faces but I think the addition of Bryz is going to revitalize the club. im excited for the season

DMBCubs25 07-02-2011 01:42 AM

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Can't wait for the first Hawks Vancouver game at the UC hahah

xxdmbxx250 07-02-2011 03:32 AM

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:lorraine:lorraine I think this is the saddest thing I have ever seen

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/65...agr-flyers.jpg courtesy of http://www.broadstreethockey.com/

I am wishing Jagr hits the dl before the season starts. Does that make me a bad person? :leroi At least it's not Crosby, I loathe him even more than Jagr.

I also wonder what former Flyers players think of the Jagr deal. :D

At least the Flyers unloaded the doucher, Boucher. I really hope they keep Bobz, I think he and Byrz will work out well for the team.

Oh, and Buffalo definitely over paid Leino. That could end up like Drury and the Rangers. Defniitely not worth the dough like Duncan Keith and B. Richards are.

Speaking of B. Richards, his "asking price" is $55-$60 mill for 8/9 years. As reported here

Let's get the season started!

~Crashintome89~ 07-02-2011 07:17 AM

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how can you call Boucher a douche? He's a class act.

flyer3468 07-02-2011 07:25 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Giant Jew (Post 12741788)
I have not heard this from one other person in regards to Leino.

Leino has a problem of not taking enough shots, too many passes, and trying to do too much fancy stuff in the nuetral zone. When it works, it looks great on a highlight reel but most of the time he tries a spin-o-rama and turns it over.

I liked him, but definitely not for the money the Sabres offered

flyer3468 07-02-2011 07:28 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 12741914)
After the dust has settled I really don't think the Flyers are any worse off than they were last year. There will definitely be a lot of new faces but I think the addition of Bryz is going to revitalize the club. im excited for the season

I think Schenn is exciting too, but in all honesty I don't think there any other good moves this offseason.

joepsu0985 07-02-2011 07:53 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 12741914)
After the dust has settled I really don't think the Flyers are any worse off than they were last year. There will definitely be a lot of new faces but I think the addition of Bryz is going to revitalize the club. im excited for the season

You lost 3 of your top four goal scorers. People may think that Leino and Carter aren't anything special, but they were 50+ point guys. Schenn has played a total of like 8 nhl games. Simmonds is a 30 point guy. Voracek not even a 20 goal guy.

So who replaces 4 of your top 5? Brierre and Giroux are aready up there.

39 year old Jagr should put up at least 20 and 30. But Max talbot. He'll lead the team in car dealership commercial.

Flyers need Brad Richards. Goals just don't magically happen.

joepsu0985 07-02-2011 07:54 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by flyer3468 (Post 12742030)
I think Schenn is exciting too, but in all honesty I don't think there any other good moves this offseason.

Schenn is young, so he was worth it. The draft pick is supposed to be a stud as well.

Giant Jew 07-02-2011 07:57 AM

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It really seems like Ruff was the driving force behind picking up Leino. He loves the fact that he holds on to the puck for long periods of time, it could work out well in Buffalo where defenseman love to join in the offense. They still lack a great center but I am liking a top-six consisting of Roy, Vanek, Stafford, Ennis, Leino, Pomminville

~Crashintome89~ 07-02-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joepsu0985 (Post 12742046)
You lost 3 of your top four goal scorers. People may think that Leino and Carter aren't anything special, but they were 50+ point guys. Schenn has played a total of like 8 nhl games. Simmonds is a 30 point guy. Voracek not even a 20 goal guy.

So who replaces 4 of your top 5? Brierre and Giroux are aready up there.

39 year old Jagr should put up at least 20 and 30. But Max talbot. He'll lead the team in car dealership commercial.

Flyers need Brad Richards. Goals just don't magically happen.


We don't need Brad Richards. :lol:lol

bonzo48280 07-02-2011 09:14 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 12742067)
We don't need Brad Richards. :lol:lol

good, because the Rangers just got him.

and I agree with Joe. You guys traded away your top 2 goal scorers and Leino and replaced it with an over paid goalie, a 39 year old, and a "character guy"

joepsu0985 07-02-2011 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 12742098)
good, because the Rangers just got him.

and I agree with Joe. You guys traded away your top 2 goal scorers and Leino and replaced it with an over paid goalie, a 39 year old, and a "character guy"

Atlantic division is stacked. Jagr will be good for 50 points. Tablot will be good for 10. The Flyers better hope Bryz is the real deal.


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