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they'll sign some veterans here, to 2-4 year contracts. we'll be deep as heck and do well
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It seems like everyone is saying we should sign a 2nd-line C. Yet we won the Cup with Sharp in that role. I really think there are no bad options, any top-6 FW works for me. |
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We won that year in-spite of not having a 2nd line center. That was easily our biggest weakness and thank goodness Sharp is such a god. Can Sharp play second line center? Yeah. but he is way way better on the wing with toews and Kane, just look at the ball smashing they did February-March. What saved us from not having a second line center was our incredible depth, which we don't have anymore. With all this money we can get a second line center and depth, and this team can really shine. |
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This is dumb. 8 team divisions? No thanks. It just doesn't really make sense. So you pull out a perennial power in the West and stick them in the East, where there are a legit four teams that can win? How watered down would the West be? I haven't found out how the scheduling will work, and that just worries me. There is no doubt, they put the Pens and Caps in the same division. Think about it, there could be the usual suspects at the top of the east all in one division. It could be the Caps, Flyers, Bolt, and Pens, and hell even thrown in a NJ or NYR. Only four of those teams make the playoffs because it looks like they are taking the top teams from the divisions. It's a terrible idea because it makes it almost like baseball. It devalues the regular season. It's going to be real shitty for a team in 5th place in a stacked division, and some joke team that is barely above .500 gets in the playoffs. The simple solution is to move a couple of teams. Move Nashville to the Southeast. They get either Ovechkin or Stamkos 6 times a year. They get the Penguins 2 times. They will sell tickets. It makes sense geographically, and doesnt rock the boat too much. It would be an instance rivalry with the Caps. It would be some great hockey to watch. Then you put Winny to the Northwest which creates a division with four canadian teams. Move Dallas to the Central. Colorado to the Pacific. 6 divisions with 5 teams works. |
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if people think the West is screwed without Detroit you're very wrong. The hawks finished 8th and were 2 points out of 4th last year. The West has many good teams where the East has 4-5.
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Think about it. Philly, Pittsburgh, Boston, are going to be the favorites in the east next year. Washington will be up there as well, but their history in the playoffs, have them dubbed as the "Sharks of the East." Throw Detroit into the mix, and the road to the Finals is down right brutal. For instance if you are the Caps, you may have to go through Philly, Pittsburgh, Detroit. Are you kidding me? Then you have a team like the Lightning, in the bottom half of the playoff teams. Still a legit team. You mean to tell me teams like Phoenix, Nashville, and Anaheim are better quality hockey franchises? The only reason the Hawks were 8th is because they played bad inconsistent hockey all year. They had the lineup, but couldn't get it done. They suffered from a Cup-hangover. They had their moments, but I think it was on them as a team, and not the other teams against them. |
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You might like it the way it is but most of the teams don't seem to. Western Conference teams hate the travel. Pretty much all of them. A more balanced schedule will let markets like Nashville, Columbus, TB, FLA and Carolina see more teams than they do now. It will devalue the regular season with 4 divisions? Most years when 6 divisions started the SE champ was the #7 or 8 team in points in the East but got the 3rd seed. That doesn't devalue the regular season when the teams 4-6 had a better record but didn't have home ice if they faced that 3rd seeded team? 94-98 with 4 divisions was just fine in the regular season. Quote:
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As for the 6 divisions being better and creating rivalries. I just did the math and the Wings have played 25 conference playoff rounds since the start of the 6 divisions in 98-99. That's not counting the 3 trips to the Finals. So out of those 25 they have only faced divisional opponents 5 times. So what did it help the Wings in terms of rivals? It didn't. I enjoy the conference playoff format too. Just saying that the current format doesn't really benefit everyone either. |
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Any Hawk fans in here know what Burish's contract situation is or is he a FA? Would not be opposed to bringing him back for a cheap 1 year deal, would be great for the locker room. If not though, in terms of 4th line centers I would prefer we target someone like Konopka or Reasoner for that role.
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Joel Ward is another name I'd like to see Stan target but I think he may be a bit overpriced after the postseason he had...
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Bowman has kind of hinted that our center position isn't what our problem is. I have no clue what this guy is gonna do.
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I'd say were not particularly thin at center but were not that deep either. Sharp is serviceable as a #2 C but is much more lethal at wing. If they are gonna start at C it should be with someone like Laich followed by a veteran presence for the 4th line (Reasoner, Madden?).
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Damn the West - Central would be pretty mediocre. Then Detroit, Pitt, Philly, Washington, and TB in the East - South? Not exactly balanced.
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South: Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Florida
There were will be five teams from this division that should make the playoffs every time. Then you compare it to the central. I'd be fine with the divisions, but you take the top 8 out of two conferences, as is. You go back to the conference names, take the top 8. |
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Central: Winnipeg (now I'll have to hear how we should have kept Byfuglien and I can only miss Ladd more), Minnesota (a possible rivalry that I have been waiting for for years), Colorado (eh, don't really care about this), Chicago, St. Louis (hate this team, love playing them, love how they always suck), Nashville (the team that should never win and always does), Dallas (they're losing Richards and won't be players, we'll see what happens).
Minnesota-Dallas should be another good rivalry. At least we would still get to play Detroit twice a year. |
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So...the official Patrick Kane summer rumors have started.
Ugh...this one is not pretty... |
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This whole re-alignment thing is giving me a headache. I just know for a fact that I do not want any parts of Detroit being in the same conference as the Flyers. /jealousy
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I really hope the Wings don't move. I know they want to, but to leave just the Blackhawks as the lone original six team in the West would be awful. Please, please God move the Preds or Jackets or someone else that makes sense.
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The only way the west is going to be interesting will be if they have more inter-conference games.
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The only thing I'm worried about is losing a rivalry between the Penguins. That would be a mistake. Although, who knows now with Richards going to LA. No more Richards-Crosby battles anymore. :(
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They will change the division names. Ice read nothing about conferences however I guess they would keep the same teams except for those moving between conferences.
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Here's a proposal I just saw out there for the new Eastern Conference.
Northeast Division (eight teams): Detroit, Columbus, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Buffalo, Boston, Pittsburgh. Atlantic Division (eight teams): Rangers, Islanders, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Florida. I know Pens and Flyers fans will say "oh it can't happen" but it terms of locale, it makes sense. Philly being in the "South" while being across the river from the Devils wouldn't make that much sense. It also would divide up the good teams a little better. Detroit, CBJ and Pitt will be in the same division regardless imo. |
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Real tired of hearing Detroit bitch about travel. I don't think it has historically hurt them. The common sense thing to do is to move the Preds to the SE. Cbs even makes sense. Detroit has been a perennial power house out west. I guess that travel is a huge factor. The argument makes no sense.
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So let's destroy two rivalries. Chi and Det would only play twice a year. Pens and Flyers get four games. And for what purpose?
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What I would like to know is how they plan on organizing the schedule with the new divisions and 16/14 team conferences? There's no overly clean cut way to do it from what I can tell. My first thought is that every team plays their conference foes at least four times a year and then the schedule is a bit more randomized from there, but its kind of a mess. |
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Oh and everyone see Carter still hasn't talked to the Jackets? I understand you are pissed at the Flyers man but this is your new team now. Not their fault the Flyers thought Bryz was worth more than you after signing you to an 11 year deal.
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So say they only take the top four and then have divisional playoffs. So you play in that division all year, and fight to the near death to make it out, then say the Red Wings have to go up against the Pens in the first round. Two teams that are favorites to win the Cup facing off in the first round? I mean its entirely possible that the 5th place team in that division could have 100+ points. I mean I can understand the travel aspect for Detroit, but if I'm a Wings fan, I'm not looking forward to playing Pittsburgh, Philly, Washington, and Tampa more than twice per year, when I could be playing Nashville, and Columbus 6 times a year. |
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Also read these guys tweets for quotes from Jeff Carter: http://twitter.com/#!/Aportzline
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Kinda tough to argue all the realignment stuff. There will not be a perfect system (the current system isn't perfect). I'd argue that 4 divisions, with conference playoffs seeded 1-8 straight-up would be the "fairest" way, but the bottom line these days is to expect to work your ass off in the regular season to put yourself in a good position for the playoffs, whatever the format. And even after working your ass off, you still could be on the outside looking in, or "less-worthy" teams will be in a better position, etc.
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The Leafs missed out on M. Richards the other day; Apparently they offered Kulemin and Kadri but didn't get a call back. That means one of two things if the Leafs have any hope of being a playoff team next year: 1, They are going to go all out and get B. Richards, but I feel like he doesn't want to come to the hockey hot-bed that is Toronto. If they fail to get to get B. Richards, they will make a pitch for Stastny. I know Colorado is denying the reports but I don't see how it couldn't happen. The likelihood is a package of Komisarek (for the Cap Hit) and Kadri as well as a pick coming back to the Avs.
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I know you are saying the rivalry isn't exactly strong with Chicago, but it is an Original 6 matchup that every fan of every original 6 team loves. So do we just break up tradition?
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Chicago as the only house-hold name for road teams if Detroit moves east? I'm not sure many people in Dallas or Phoenix would come out to see LA or SJ or Vancouver.
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Flyers trade Powe to Minnesota for 3rd round pick next season
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also, Bieksa at $4.6 cap hit? Nice job Canucks.
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Not sure if it has been posted and I don't feel like backreading but has it been announced who will be on the cover of NHL 12 yet?
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No word on if TBL have qualified Stamkos. Would be a huge mistake.
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Man, its basically roster musical chairs in the AHL
San Antonio -> Portland Portland -> Rochester Rochester -> ? Chicago < -> St. Johns :freak What a great way to maintain and grow fan bases in those small markets. Such is minor leagues i suppose. |
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Pending UFA Kopecky to Florida for a 7th round pick. Tallon must REALLY want him.
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No qualifying offer for Tyler Kennedy. Kind of surprising, no?
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But. This could mean #68 is back.
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In Shero We Trust...
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I would like Tyler Kennedy.....but we won't get him. Free Agency is going to be madness on Friday
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It would have made sense to make an offer and then go to arbitration with him. Then walk away if they gave him more. He's a UFA and the outcome is the same as this.
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I saw. Personally I would not be heart broken if he goes to Detroit. #1 He is not the answer that the Pens need at wing. He's 39 and played in the KHL. If he is our only focus and wing and we let go of a 20 goal scorer, then it's a mistake by Shero, and that is rare when you hear someone say that he made a mistake. It would be a big one, because if you are weighing your season on the shoulders of a 39 year old, who just got done playing in for three seasons, in unspectacular fashion in a soft league, then something is wrong with you. He would be a great addition, but he is no longer that guy who is going to make a substantial impact. |
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Dan Carcillo will not be back in a Flyers uniform next season... THANK GOD!!
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Charlie B as reported here first, Jagr looks to be headed to #Pens, contract to be agreed upon by friday per @RobRossi_Trib, i'm hearing 2 year deal |
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Good little article...
Jeff Carter says he's looking ahead: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6709462 |
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Absolutely thrilled the Bruins got Dougie Hamilton in the draft. Everything I've read about him compares him to Brent Bruns. If he can become the kind of player Brent Burns is then sign me up.
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Carter is a bitch. Get over it.
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Hearing #Pens want keep Kennedy (multiyear), handshake with Jagr (1-year), ink Dupuis and/or Rupp; seek clarity on all by Friday #tribpens 6 minutes ago shero has a plan. earlier there was a quote that basically said that if they dont sign kennedy that they have a list of replacements. i trush ray. |
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