Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15176331)

Yeah Tim, I totally agree about feeling bad for Bertuzzi. I used to hate the guy (obviously), but that hatred has turned more to pity. He was never able to get his career back on track to the level he was at, and he's never been (and will never be) able to live that incident down. No matter what he does, he will always be that guy who got pissed and ended Steve Moore's career basically before it had really begun. On one hand, I ask (and he probably asks) how long he's required to suffer before he's atoned for his actions? Unfortunately, probably never. That's too bad. That's the "mercy" side of me.

The other part of me, however, thinks about how Bert is still making millions of dollars playing hockey while Moore is not. This is the "justice" side of me that thinks "The least Bert can do is feel bad and take some ridicule while Moore sits at home with physical damage unable to play and even function normally."

Not saying either the "justice" or "mercy" sides of me are completely right... they are just the normal spectrum of human emotions I run through when I think about this situation.

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176345)

guys the hockey thread is just great.
outside of Tim randomly lashing out at the jackets last night we always proceed with very sophisticated and interesting discussion, even when we don't agree.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15176404)

:lol we should do an ants.org NHL meat up :lol

hit up a few arenas, get weird

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176405)

Are you Mormon matty or do you just not drink?

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15176422)

i've always wanted to go to the saddle dome, by far my favorite arena in the league

joe lewis and MSG would be cool too, although i hear the joe is a shit hole now

wish the forum was still around

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176426)

i want to see a game in montreal

edit: and chicago

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176426)

i want to see a game in montreal

edit: and chicago

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15176434)

yea i hear montreal is a cool town too, but it's not the same without the forum


chi-town would be cool just for the national anthem

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176426)

i want to see a game in montreal

edit: and chicago

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15176432)

JLA has always been a shit hole. Seats are tight, bathrooms are scarce but for a playoff game...awesome. I can't imagine there is an arena with better sight line than Joe Louis. The newer ones are pretty good, ACC and Nationwide are two I've been to. A lot built in the late 80's and early 90's went for hugeness and suites and didn't care that you felt a mile away sitting at the top.

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15176437)

Chicago would be cool. Let's plan on that. :thumbsup

We could all crash at Bron, Chris, and Bonzo's houses. I'll be the DD. :cool

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15176442)

Habs fans are huge douche bags in general would be my problem. Winnipeg would be a great place because it's so small compared to other arenas.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15176446)

yea, that's one nice thing about the consol, it may be very white collar and new-age, but the sight lines are great and, at least from i can tell on TV, has the best lighting in the league

too bad the regular season crowds are sushi-eating, indifferent, always on my cell phone asshole

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15176450)

agreed but i would only want to go there in early october or may/june :lol

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15176453)

When hockey was at it's high point here, like 97-2004, the Detroit crowds were like that. Pretty quiet during the regular season unless the Avs were town. I find regular season games to be much more energetic now than they used to be.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15176456)

Oh yeah. Can't imagine January there. Or in Edmonton or Calgary for that matter.

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176470)

the first NHL game i ever went to was in the old boston garden.
that place was incredible.

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176470)

the first NHL game i ever went to was in the old boston garden.
that place was incredible.

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15176481)

We interrupt this conversation with a special report:

Mrs. Fonzz41 reports that today she saw that Hillary Duff and Mike Comrie have separated.

Apparently this happened back in January, but no one really cared.

At least we've still got Carrie and Mike Underwood.

We now take you back to your normally scheduled programming.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt (Post 15176487)

is lizzie maguire still a cow?

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176491)

going to a panthers game would be fun too, puts you in pretty exclusive company, like going to the moon.

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176491)

i wouldn't mind seeing a game in the phone booth actually.

going to a panthers game would be fun too, puts you in pretty exclusive company, like going to the moon.

Originally Posted by Rebecca De Mornay (Post 15176491)

i wouldn't mind seeing a game in the phone booth actually.

going to a panthers game would be fun too, puts you in pretty exclusive company, like going to the moon.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15176410)

This is well put. Bert is your Lemieux. Claude didn't end Draper's career thankfully but the hatred from both sides i there. I have a lot more respect for The Turtle...errr Lemieux than I used to. That interview he did with McCarty was great. When you hear them, without all the emotion that they had going on for years after that hit, you see both sides of it.

Originally Posted by fonzz41 (Post 15176654)

I haven't seen this interview. Will look it up.

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 15176672)

I swore you'd have seen it.

Here it is...well part 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQUHg_fPRto