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TMoore4075 07-02-2015 05:39 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Waiting on Barbs reaction. Caps trying to go all in it seems. Doesn't seem like a steep price at all. Don't know much about the goalie though but a 3rd and Brouwer isn't much.

Edit: and there he is.

UCFish 07-02-2015 06:13 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Why is no one taking Bickell?

fonzz41 07-02-2015 06:13 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Well, it only took a couple days to address the winger issue.

fonzz41 07-02-2015 06:18 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16039149)
TJ Oshie has always been a classic case of "unrealized potential" to me. He has so much more skill than his stats dictate, I'd love to see him succeed somewhere else than St. Louis. Best of luck to him.

Totally agree. The kid is just packed with skill. Excited to see what he can do with a pivot like Backstrom.

barbogast 07-02-2015 06:18 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
So, now that I have a minute to actually look at the trade, another good move from BMac in my opinion. Oshie is an upgrade from Brouwer, and the goalie is a decent kid but he's nothing special, plus we really don't need another goalie prospect. Throwing in a third is fine. This is a great move for several reasons. I'll expand my thoughts later when I have more time, but this a great move.

fonzz41 07-02-2015 06:22 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
I like the move as well. It's simple: The Caps had a need, and they addressed it. Without mortgaging the farm, we should add. That is the essence of what trades in sports are for. Washington achieved that here. Good move.

UCFish 07-02-2015 06:29 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Good article on how the Kings are probably full of shit and not going to get away with blatant cap circumvention.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacr...-his-contract/

lockman21 07-02-2015 06:51 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16039224)
Good article on how the Kings are probably full of shit and not going to get away with blatant cap circumvention.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacr...-his-contract/

Eh, I guess. It's all hearsay and allegations at this point. Until we get full details, we have no idea how "full of shit" the Kings are or are not.

TMoore4075 07-02-2015 07:31 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16039204)
Why is no one taking Bickell?

Yeah I know. I mean he's totally on the same level as Oshie and Williams.

barbogast 07-02-2015 09:10 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
MacLellan bringing the heat.

I'm very happy about both acquisitions. This gives the Caps real options at forward, not just band aids and hopes. The top 6 could look like this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Burakovsky
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Oshie

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Burakovsky - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or several other combinations. You get my point. Adding two viable options at RW in the top 6 is massive. No matter what they do, Williams/Oshie/Burakovsky is better than Ward/Brouwer/Fehr. They can choose not to rush Andre into a top 6 role right away this season because now they've got options. They can use a player like Justin Williams in the bottom 6 if they so choose because they've got options. If Johansson gets cold they can comfortably slide him down a line because they've got (you guessed it) options. Options foster competition, competition fosters better hockey. These are two really impressive moves and provided real answers to an issue that was apparent all season last year.

Nice job, BMac. Looks like the Caps are definitely out on Patrick Sharp now.

~Crashintome89~ 07-02-2015 09:26 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
man, caps are legit.

about time they, you know, got some north american players on their team who actually won something.

dmbetc 07-02-2015 09:32 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16039224)
Good article on how the Kings are probably full of shit and not going to get away with blatant cap circumvention.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacr...-his-contract/

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockman21 (Post 16039234)
Eh, I guess. It's all hearsay and allegations at this point. Until we get full details, we have no idea how "full of shit" the Kings are or are not.

With Lombardi having a degree in labor law I would assume he has to be fairly certain that this wouldn't come back negatively. As Chris says, that article is all hearsay. I hope Lombardi isn't that dumb or thinks that the NHLPA is that dumb.

salrx95 07-02-2015 09:42 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16039330)
MacLellan bringing the heat.

I'm very happy about both acquisitions. This gives the Caps real options at forward, not just band aids and hopes. The top 6 could look like this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Burakovsky
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Oshie

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Burakovsky - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or several other combinations. You get my point. Adding two viable options at RW in the top 6 is massive. No matter what they do, Williams/Oshie/Burakovsky is better than Ward/Brouwer/Fehr. They can choose not to rush Andre into a top 6 role right away this season because now they've got options. They can use a player like Justin Williams in the bottom 6 if they so choose because they've got options. If Johansson gets cold they can comfortably slide him down a line because they've got (you guessed it) options. Options foster competition, competition fosters better hockey. These are two really impressive moves and provided real answers to an issue that was apparent all season last year.

Nice job, BMac. Looks like the Caps are definitely out on Patrick Sharp now.

Someone is sporting some serious wood tonight :lol Christmas in July, huh.

~Crashintome89~ 07-02-2015 10:43 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
man, for those of you who know me in real life or on the book of faces, you'll know I work at a pretty cool history museum.

today we had over 10,000 visitors.

so needless to say I'm getting blackhawk drunk on zimas right now.

JRS1386 07-02-2015 10:49 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
What history museum?

salrx95 07-02-2015 10:51 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16039389)
man, for those of you who know me in real life or on the book of faces, you'll know I work at a pretty cool history museum.

today we had over 10,000 visitors.

so needless to say I'm getting blackhawk drunk on zimas right now.

Cool. History was always my favorite subject.



This mom and any parent who films their kids like this should get their asses beat.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/789922

kev87lads 07-02-2015 11:16 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRS1386 (Post 16039392)
What history museum?

Let's say it's a place (center?) that has something to do with a document that sounds like Monstitution.

~Crashintome89~ 07-02-2015 11:23 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
:lol :lol :lol

Kev, bud. Since we didn't do Camden this year we have to get together. Let me know.

JRS, you're invited too. We can make fun of Becca, who actually thinks he has a shot at the playoffs this year. :lol

~Crashintome89~ 07-02-2015 11:29 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 16039393)
Cool. History was always my favorite subject.



This mom and any parent who films their kids like this should get their asses beat.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/789922

that video is painful.

a much better video, which I cannot find, is the "I'm not bud, I'm Voracek."

It's like a five year old in a living room with a hockey stick and a net, and the dad goes "hey bud...", and the kid goes, "I'm not bud, I'm Voracek."

Brohan_Santana 07-02-2015 11:48 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barbogast (Post 16039330)
MacLellan bringing the heat.

I'm very happy about both acquisitions. This gives the Caps real options at forward, not just band aids and hopes. The top 6 could look like this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Burakovsky
Johansson - Kuznetsov - Oshie

Or this:

Ovie - Nick - Oshie
Burakovsky - Kuznetsov - Williams

Or several other combinations. You get my point. Adding two viable options at RW in the top 6 is massive. No matter what they do, Williams/Oshie/Burakovsky is better than Ward/Brouwer/Fehr. They can choose not to rush Andre into a top 6 role right away this season because now they've got options. They can use a player like Justin Williams in the bottom 6 if they so choose because they've got options. If Johansson gets cold they can comfortably slide him down a line because they've got (you guessed it) options. Options foster competition, competition fosters better hockey. These are two really impressive moves and provided real answers to an issue that was apparent all season last year.

Nice job, BMac. Looks like the Caps are definitely out on Patrick Sharp now.

This is spot on, but you forgot something. The amount of new sexy ass women who will be walking around in Oshie jerseys next season :thumbsup:thumbsup

JRS1386 07-02-2015 11:54 PM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev87lads (Post 16039407)
Let's say it's a place (center?) that has something to do with a document that sounds like Monstitution.

He works at the Prostitutions Center

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Crashintome89~ (Post 16039414)
:lol :lol :lol

Kev, bud. Since we didn't do Camden this year we have to get together. Let me know.

JRS, you're invited too. We can make fun of Becca, who actually thinks he has a shot at the playoffs this year. :lol

Im pretty booked for the small window I'm up in Bucks until I have to head back to VA. Maybe next time I'm up this way for sure. Blue Jackets suck :lol

UCFish 07-03-2015 03:38 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16039243)
Yeah I know. I mean he's totally on the same level as Oshie and Williams.

I mean Williams has value .... Oshie does not so not sure what you are going for here

UCFish 07-03-2015 04:09 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 16039342)
With Lombardi having a degree in labor law I would assume he has to be fairly certain that this wouldn't come back negatively. As Chris says, that article is all hearsay. I hope Lombardi isn't that dumb or thinks that the NHLPA is that dumb.

Lombardi was the same guy who did not use a complaince buyout on Richards just last year.

TMoore4075 07-03-2015 07:09 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salrx95 (Post 16039347)
Someone is sporting some serious wood tonight :lol Christmas in July, huh.

He doesn't get to celebrate in June so....
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16039494)
I mean Williams has value .... Oshie does not so not sure what you are going for here

He's got more value than Bickell. 55 points compared to 28.

lockman21 07-03-2015 07:27 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16039494)
I mean Williams has value .... Oshie does not so not sure what you are going for here

Oshie doesn't have value? Dude has never had a season averaging less than 0.63 points per game, with a career average at 0.70. Bickell's BEST season was 0.48 points per game, with last year at 0.35 and the year before that at 0.25.

Oshie also has a pretty good reputation for having a lot of untapped potential, and a very high ceiling. His talent was enough to get him on Team USA last Olympics. Bickell is just a fat man that happened to be in the right place at the right time during one playoff run.

Bickell will get traded, it's just going to be Bowman waiting it out until he feels he has his best return. Let the free agent market dry up, there will be someone around feeling left out. I just want someone to do it to get it over with, but understand it's potentially going to be quite the waiting period.

TMoore4075 07-03-2015 08:43 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Speaking of free agent market. Still nothing on Ward, Franson or Oduya?

salrx95 07-03-2015 08:53 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16039535)
Speaking of free agent market. Still nothing on Ward, Franson or Oduya?

It was strange how practically no one of note was signed yesterday. It was very quiet. Must be a lot of cap situations with RFA, etc trying to be still sorted out before some of these other guys get signed.

Roose13 07-03-2015 09:55 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 16039494)
I mean Williams has value .... Oshie does not so not sure what you are going for here

:twak:ugh

JRS1386 07-03-2015 09:57 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
My only remaining goals for the Flyers are to resign/extend Scorachek and Del Zottl and for none of them to play golf

Roose13 07-03-2015 10:02 AM

Re: The NHL Thread
 
MDZ is looking good. I was talking with Carchidi about that Wednesday night at an all star football game. Also thinks B Schenn has the best shot at being traded and that it doesn't look like Lecavalier will be.


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