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monkeyman68 04-23-2012 09:26 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Will anyone outside of NSH and PHX actually watch that series?

bonzo48280 04-23-2012 09:30 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I love doing these, can't wait for the thread for next season:

My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.875m) / P-A Parenteau ($3.350m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.542m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Michael Frolik ($2.333m)
Andrew Shaw ($0.565m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Jimmy Hayes ($0.875m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m)
Jamal Mayers ($0.650m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Nick Leddy ($1.117m) / Ryan Suter ($5.200m)
Steve Montador ($2.750m) / Dylan Olsen ($0.870m)
Scott Hannan ($1.000m) /
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.667m)
Ray Emery ($1.150m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,156,794; BONUSES: $647,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $143,206

Bron Yr Aur 04-23-2012 09:31 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBCubs25 (Post 13554459)
Probably a much different series with Hossa, Montador, Carcillo in lineup but can't use injuries as an excuse. Weak goaltending, horrible special teams and invisible series from 88 and 10 did them in.

PHX deserves a ton of credit for battling through more injuries than Chicago had.


Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 13554569)
Will anyone outside of NSH and PHX actually watch that series?

No.

Bron Yr Aur 04-23-2012 09:33 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13554579)
I love doing these, can't wait for the thread for next season:

My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Viktor Stalberg ($0.875m) / P-A Parenteau ($3.350m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.542m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Michael Frolik ($2.333m)
Andrew Shaw ($0.565m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Jimmy Hayes ($0.875m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m)
Jamal Mayers ($0.650m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Nick Leddy ($1.117m) / Ryan Suter ($5.200m)
Steve Montador ($2.750m) / Dylan Olsen ($0.870m)
Scott Hannan ($1.000m) /
GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.667m)
Ray Emery ($1.150m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,156,794; BONUSES: $647,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $143,206

If they don't make a serious run at a legitimate 2nd-pairing defenseman, I will be disappointed. Someone who plays with some physicality. Let Oduya walk please. Leddy / Suter is exactly what I would like. Probably will never happen. Give Leddy a safety net so he can be free to move the puck.

UCFish 04-23-2012 09:47 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I think there is an overreaction to Oduya......would not mind seeing him back at all.....not his fault we ran into a fucking wall

bonzo48280 04-23-2012 09:49 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFish (Post 13554625)
I think there is an overreaction to Oduya......would not mind seeing him back at all.....not his fault we ran into a fucking wall

right, but there are a lot of turnovers in this series that were his fault.

UCFish 04-23-2012 09:50 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo48280 (Post 13554629)
right, but there are a lot of turnovers in this series that were his fault.

I will give you that.....although are they magnified by the fact that we could not score for shit?

bonzo48280 04-23-2012 09:52 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I'm done. the season is gone. Things needs to change. See ya in the next thread.

UCFish 04-23-2012 09:57 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I will still be around....Not sure who i want to win the game 7's
Will get to go to some Kings games though

BotheLaneFan 04-23-2012 09:58 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Go Canada.

UCFish 04-23-2012 10:22 PM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Watching Kane score helps ease some pain....still really sucks though...Go Preds and Kings now.

thechad90000 04-24-2012 12:34 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyman68 (Post 13554569)
Will anyone outside of NSH and PHX actually watch that series?

Hopefully there will be some but I'm not sure how many. It will probably be the series with the lowest ratings next round and that's too bad. There's still good hockey that's going to be played and not to mention I'd think NHL fans would want to support higher ratings for playoff games so there can be more coverage of hockey in general. It's a travesty that baseball games are front page news during the NHL playoffs.

bradshaw06 04-24-2012 04:58 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I'll be watching. Caring about the ratings is stupid.

dmbetc 04-24-2012 05:02 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Really happy to see Rangers score some goals last night. Gives them a HUGE confidence boost going into game 7 knowing they can score not 1 but multiple goals on Anderson.

TMoore4075 04-24-2012 05:20 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
I'll watch parts of the series but not much if it turns out the way I think it will. The most intriguing part of all of this is what will the attendance be in PHX? This is the first time since going to Glendale that they haven't had Detroit or Chicago facing them and their fans travel well. Will there be enough new bandwagoners for the Nord...Coyotes to fill the place?

I have to give props to Smith and the Coyotes though. Only took them 25 years.

Rangers did what they had to do nice to see two game 7's. If the Rangers play Philly I don't think they win. Although their goals for should go up.

Have a feeling Panthers pull it off tonight and Parise plays his last game in NJ. Your stall in JLA is waiting for ya.

A funny tweet I read earlier: "If the #RedWings #Blackhawks #Canucks and #Pens got together to have a tournament right now, you'd watch that instead. You know it's true." And yeah...it is. But still gonna watch the playoffs. I'm interested to see what the ratings do though. I mean they were sky high so far will they keep up if the Rangers get knocked out too?

dmbetc 04-24-2012 05:24 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
No way Flyers win if they face the Rangers. The Flyers goal tending is too horrendous and the Rangers is too good.

swordo84 04-24-2012 05:56 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Skipped a bunch of pages, could have missed the discussion but how in the fuck was Ottawa's 2nd goal allowed to stand last night? If that wasn't a kick-in goal, I don't know what would be.

Jsweeney 04-24-2012 06:00 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 13554831)
No way Flyers win if they face the Rangers. The Flyers goal tending is too horrendous and the Rangers is too good.

not terribly excited about the prospect of this match-up, but I do not know if i would say "no way"...anything is possible this post-season

TMoore4075 04-24-2012 06:02 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsweeney (Post 13554916)
not terribly excited about the prospect of this match-up, but I do not know if i would say "no way"...anything is possible this post-season

The Panthers backing into the playoffs while the Devils were playing well is a good example of that. Or the Hawks and Canucks rolling into the playoffs and getting knocked out.

dmbetc 04-24-2012 06:11 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsweeney (Post 13554916)
not terribly excited about the prospect of this match-up, but I do not know if i would say "no way"...anything is possible this post-season

Well, of course that is just sport chatter. This post season has been full of surprises, both good and bad. But, if the Flyers match up with the Rangers the Flyers will need to step up their D to help their goalies, unless their goalies start making stops. Letting in multiple goals will be a disaster for them against the Rangers. Hank will not return the favor.

aeroshady 04-24-2012 06:11 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
New York has owned Philly though....and that has mattered so far...see Penguins Philly for evidence of that.

swordo84 04-24-2012 06:12 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13554921)
The Panthers backing into the playoffs while the Devils were playing well is a good example of that. Or the Hawks and Canucks rolling into the playoffs and getting knocked out.

As much as I generally hate Don Cherry, he made a good point last night in that he spoke to the fact that Vancouver just coasted into the playoffs and didn't really have a whole lot of fight in them, and it showed.

TMoore4075 04-24-2012 06:21 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordo84 (Post 13554940)
As much as I generally hate Don Cherry, he made a good point last night in that he spoke to the fact that Vancouver just coasted into the playoffs and didn't really have a whole lot of fight in them, and it showed.

I used to like him but he's off his rocker even more now but I could agree with that.

Also agree with what he said last night that Lou needs to go and to not fight it much. Give them a list and get out. The term will be tough for a team to take on but his cap hit is very friendly at $5.3mil.

TMoore4075 04-24-2012 06:33 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index...._wings_22.html

I wouldn't go there either.

Bron Yr Aur 04-24-2012 06:45 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Don't think Ottawa's goal was kick-in. The guy who kicked at it didn't touch the puck. It was more goalie interference.

wampa3 04-24-2012 06:58 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13554979)

That may be the GM position that is just as bad, or worse, to take than the Maple Leafs.

Jsweeney 04-24-2012 07:02 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmbetc (Post 13554936)
Well, of course that is just sport chatter. This post season has been full of surprises, both good and bad. But, if the Flyers match up with the Rangers the Flyers will need to step up their D to help their goalies, unless their goalies start making stops. Letting in multiple goals will be a disaster for them against the Rangers. Hank will not return the favor.

no doubt...and that is why I will be a Caps and Ottawa fan hoping for at least one of those (if not both ;)) to advance!
if we got to play rangers or bruins, let's do it in Eastern finals...oh and I guess the Devils could help too...but I think that series ends tonight

dmbetc 04-24-2012 07:26 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Yeah, I don't think the Devils are going to force game 7. Which its funny to think of the Panthers advancing, let alone in the playoffs.

TMoore4075 04-24-2012 07:49 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 13503313)
I'll do my predictions real quick I guess but who knows what will happen.
NYR/Sens: Rangers in 6. Sens will be a battle though. Maybe goes 7 cause the Rangers have had a few not so good looking games but they'll win.

Bruins/Caps: What Caps team shows up? The one from Saturday could cause trouble but I won't hold my breath. Bruins in 6.

Panthers/Devils: I want to say Devils in 6 but I dunno. I'm gonna go in 5. Cats have struggled a lot lately and the Devils haven't.

Pens/Flyers: Should be great and I hope it lives up to the hype. Pens in 7.

Canucks/Kings: Should be a good series. A rematch of 2010 and the Kings are a better team. I think the Canucks get by though and in 7.

Blues/Sharks: It's 2000 all over again. I'm not sold on the Blues as a team being good enough to go all the way even with their goaltending. They still need to learn how to win in the post season. I'm gonna say Sharks in 7.

Yotes/Hawks: Hawks minus their captain and the Yotes are a tough team. I think this one might go the distance as well but not sure. I'd like to see the Yotes finally win a series, although it could postpone a possible relocation. I'm gonna go Hawks in 6 though.

Wings/Preds: Would love to pick my boys here. They have the talent, the experience, the goaltending but can't score worth crap lately. The positive side of that is the Preds don't score a lot either so they won't need to score a lot to win. If they can get enough offense going they could win. I like that a lot of you were picking my boys but I'm gonna have to go against them and say Preds in....7. I think it could be 6 but don't want to lose at home.

That was one long post.

Well for the West all I got right was the Preds. I knew the Kings would be tough and thought they could win but sure didn't expect that.

The East I was wrong with the Cats regardless of who wins cause they had backed in and I thought they would be out quickly. Rangers and Bruins so far I could still be right about the winner and was wrong about the Pens. But who would have thought Fleury would have pulled his best Theodore from 08 impression early in that series?

fonzz41 04-24-2012 07:53 AM

Re: NHL 2011/2012 Thread
 
Fresh off my suspension! Good to be back :lol

Nice to see Phoenix advance. You've gotta give them credit... they have every reason to fail, and yet they continue to soldier on. A team of warriors... and scumbags (Torres).

I remember when they signed Smith... I didn't agree with many who said it was a terrible signing - I did see some potential there - but I didn't see him literally standing on his head most of the season. They are nowhere without him.

The job status of Coach Q going forward is an interesting one. Bylsma is another one. It's obvious both are great coaches, but at what point is it time for a fresh message? When you make a coaching change, it's not usually because the coach is "bad", it's just that a new message needs to be preached to keep the players motivated.

This is especially important on young teams. Vets know what they have to do... it's obvious they don't need as much hand-holding and "go get 'ems"; if they did they probably still wouldn't be in the league. But youngsters need that. Is Hitchcock a bad coach because he got fired from CBJ? Obviously not. Laviolette because he was fired from Carolina? Obviously not. The list goes on. It's just a "message getting stale" issue, and that's why we see the coaching carousel continuing to go around in the NHL. Not necessarily a bad thing.

I think the question both Pittsburgh and Chicago management need to consider (and it's not an easy one) is: At what point is it the coach's responsibility to get his guys going to play their best, and at what point is it the players responsibility to buck up and play to their full potential, and who's not pulling their full weight? I firmly think the players bear most of that responsibility, but the coach certainly has a job to do in that as well.

Will be interesting to see where it goes. One thing's for sure, Q and Bylsma are both good enough to land other jobs quickly. San Jose and Calgary come to mind.


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