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BTBaboon 07-11-2017 01:25 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by snow1868 (Post 16832629)
The bold in my statement came directly from your post. Those are your words.

Those are YOUR words, reverse using the words

snow1868 07-11-2017 01:26 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by BTBaboon (Post 16832654)
Those are YOUR words, reverse using the words

:lol :lol :lol

BTBaboon 07-11-2017 01:26 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by bballman720 (Post 16832641)
What do you guys think the chances that this makes it to the main store? I ordered one from the Warehouse but I like to keep one copy of the vinyl to play and one to display. Warehouse has a limit of one per person.

It'll make it, but I don't know how long it'll be there. Flippers will be out in force for it

socopithy 07-11-2017 01:28 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
:lol this debate.

TMoore4075 07-11-2017 01:31 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by snow1868 (Post 16832381)
It's already there. It's all over their social media, not a chance they skip an opportunity to make more money with a digital download of this. They could charge $30 a D/L and make a killing. I'd pay that, it's 100% worth it.

$30 I'd be ok with honestly. I like the collectors aspect of it for sure but I want to listen to this and my music listening time just isn't with vinyl. Especially that many songs, ya know? An album is one thing but that many songs have to flip sides and stuff.

justink 07-11-2017 01:35 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by robby_idol (Post 16832636)
You actually just disproved your own point:

Take a moment and listen to Pig as released on the WH disc, and then how it sounds on LT 26. Wildly different, no? The whole mix is brighter and more rounded on the WH disc, whereas it's kind of flat on the LT. Also note that Dave's vocal at the start of Pig is missing on LT 26, but it's there on the WH disc. Same song, literally mixed TWICE for separate releases.

Now why would they mix a song twice if the full show was ready to go all along? 7/30/03 has three songs individually released prior to getting selected for a LT, and each of those songs not only sound different from the eventual LT album, but also sound pretty different from each other. Almost... as if... they were mixed... separately! :eek

that one show has FOUR separate releases. perfectly proves my point.

not sure what you're talking about. do you mean where they chose to place the track break? what vocal?

wmg21 07-11-2017 01:37 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by BTBaboon (Post 16832659)
It'll make it, but I don't know how long it'll be there. Flippers will be out in force for it

Hard to tell how many are left using the normal tricks since they've hard capped it at 1. :confused

robby_idol 07-11-2017 01:37 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by justink (Post 16832686)
that one show has FOUR separate releases. perfectly proves my point.

not sure what you're talking about. do you mean where they chose to place the track break? what vocal?

Relax your commenting fingers and go listen to the actual tracks. LISTEN to the mix you claim is so consistent. Then come back and we'll discuss.

blumathu 07-11-2017 01:41 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by justink (Post 16832576)
um... okay. a few other clicks for however many tracks there are. sorry.

No, just no. You're grossly oversimplifying the mixing process. They absolutely listen critically to every single track on every single song and adjust accordingly. This definitely takes time. Even more time than getting the tracks loaded in their DAW of choice. Song fades, crowd noise, tweaks as instruments are swapped out, taking out the long breaks between songs, panning down where mistakes occur, etc.

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Originally Posted by justink (Post 16832625)
i believe i said they master the full shows for every single song released. ie... they don't just pull one song and master it without doing the entire show.

then they release songs on separate releases or full releases altogether... as i proved with the almanac releases.

point being... look toward some of these songs getting a full show release.

No, you said they mix the entire show. Mastering is a completely different thing. And it also takes a lot more time than you probably realize.

mray10 07-11-2017 01:47 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
Of 42 Live Trax releases, five include tracks that were previously released elsewhere first (1, 11, 22, 26, 40).

There have been over 129 songs released on Warehouse discs alone (at least one of the discs has multiple songs as one track and I'm a bit too lazy to figure out exactly how many songs). I think 6 of those have then gone on to also be featured on an official full show release.

blumathu 07-11-2017 01:49 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by justink (Post 16832686)
not sure what you're talking about. do you mean where they chose to place the track break? what vocal?

He's talking about the fact that the track Pig has a completely different mix on the LT vs. the Warehouse disc.

TheLastPig 07-11-2017 01:49 PM

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Justin getting melty I see

snow1868 07-11-2017 01:50 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by mray10 (Post 16832718)
Of 42 Live Trax releases, five include tracks that were previously released elsewhere first (1, 11, 22, 26, 40).

There have been over 129 songs released on Warehouse discs alone (at least one of the discs has multiple songs as one track and I'm a bit too lazy to figure out exactly how many songs). I think 6 of those have then gone on to also be featured on an official full show release.

Looking forward to those 129 new full show releases. :lol

robby_idol 07-11-2017 01:50 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by blumathu (Post 16832724)
He's talking about the fact that the track Pig has a completely different mix on the LT vs. the Warehouse disc.

This. There's more to it than just checking numbers with the Almanac.

socopithy 07-11-2017 01:51 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by snow1868 (Post 16832727)
Looking forward to those 129 new full show releases. :lol

It'll release on vinyl too.

kingofkings 07-11-2017 01:52 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by justink (Post 16832686)
that one show has FOUR separate releases. perfectly proves my point.

not sure what you're talking about. do you mean where they chose to place the track break? what vocal?

I have to admit, his point is credible. I can say almost for sure the same person who mixed the wh version of that pig, did not do it for the LT release. That's constant with all these releases as of lately. Unless it has to do with the mastering, but if you look at the credits on the wh discs and the lt discs, it will name different mixers. On Wh 8 vol 1, Evans was only credited for pro tools work, now he is mixing everything. Chris Kress I believe mixed the wh pig, have to check.

kingofkings 07-11-2017 01:55 PM

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So yeah I wouldn't think they would mix twice, so they are most likely mixing a single song for what they want to do, then redoing the full show if it gets a release.

BTBaboon 07-11-2017 01:57 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
This is probably a bit on the high end, but there will definitely be flippers and I expect the second-market price to be ~$300

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRE-ORDER-20...kAAOSwGBtZZFFx

socopithy 07-11-2017 01:58 PM

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You're a moron, stink.

snow1868 07-11-2017 01:58 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by socopithy (Post 16832748)
You're a moron, stink.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

bustedstuff88 07-11-2017 01:58 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
Would have bought but I only listen to tinny cut to shit MP3's.

No for real I wish I had the coin to drop on this right now. Damn shame....

socopithy 07-11-2017 01:59 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by bustedstuff88 (Post 16832753)
Would have bought but I only listen to tinny cut to shit MP3's.

No for real I wish I had the coin to drop on this right now. Damn shame....

Hey, reportedly the next iPhone (and then likely other phones) will better support FLAC. So that's nice.

Hilly 07-11-2017 02:01 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by TMoore4075 (Post 16832674)
$30 I'd be ok with honestly. I like the collectors aspect of it for sure but I want to listen to this and my music listening time just isn't with vinyl. Especially that many songs, ya know? An album is one thing but that many songs have to flip sides and stuff.

There are 42 Live Trax. There's DMB Live. There's a bunch of other live releases.

There's no shortage of live material for fans who want to put something on their iPods and Zunes.

Having a collectors edition set of material on vinyl is pretty awesome.

Plenty of bands have done limited releases. Adds a little something fun for the collectors or uber fans.

Hilly 07-11-2017 02:04 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by blumathu (Post 16832724)
He's talking about the fact that the track Pig has a completely different mix on the LT vs. the Warehouse disc.

Similarly, listen to the mix of #41 from the Warehouse disc and LT1.

socopithy 07-11-2017 02:05 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
:lol fuck I missed Hilly.
Zunes. What a guy.

kingofkings 07-11-2017 02:07 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by Hilly (Post 16832758)
There are 42 Live Trax. There's DMB Live. There's a bunch of other live releases.

There's no shortage of live material for fans who want to put something on their iPods and Zunes.

Having a collectors edition set of material on vinyl is pretty awesome.

Plenty of bands have done limited releases. Adds a little something fun for the collectors or uber fans.

still should offer a cd for us "uber" fans who don't listen to vinyl, that's all. I love a good box set, because I'm a collector as well. but these tracks, rare as they are and not released, to someone like me is the jackpot, what we want the warehouse discs to look like every year. to have it on one compilation is amazing. so cd would have been nice.

BTBaboon 07-11-2017 02:08 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by Hilly (Post 16832758)
There are 42 Live Trax. There's DMB Live. There's a bunch of other live releases.

There's no shortage of live material for fans who want to put something on their iPods and Zunes.

Having a collectors edition set of material on vinyl is pretty awesome.

Plenty of bands have done limited releases. Adds a little something fun for the collectors or uber fans
.

Amen. As a vinyl geek and uber nerd-fan, I'm stoked for this. I understand people who want this digitally, but I assume eventually it will be. It's nice that they've catered a few releases recently to audiophiles like us. From Crash 20th anniversary being all analog, to MSG LT 40 Bluray for the audio, and now this. Awesome stuff :thumbsup

And if this sentiment makes me a ball washer, so be it! :) :washer

TheLastPig 07-11-2017 02:08 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by kingofkings (Post 16832767)
still should offer a cd for us "uber" fans who don't listen to vinyl, that's all. I love a good box set, because I'm a collector as well. but these tracks, rare as they are and not released, to someone like me is the jackpot, what we want the warehouse discs to look like every year. to have it on one compilation is amazing. so cd would have been nice.

yep.

There should have been a CD package.

Having a limited vinyl release is fine, not having the stuff available to people who dont listen to vinyl is not.

bustedstuff88 07-11-2017 02:10 PM

Re: DMB Live 25 - 5LP Vinyl (180g)
 
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Originally Posted by socopithy (Post 16832755)
Hey, reportedly the next iPhone (and then likely other phones) will better support FLAC. So that's nice.

Shit i still use a flip phone

BTBaboon 07-11-2017 02:12 PM

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Question for Pearl Jam fans here. Do their vault releases that they do on vinyl also have CD/digital releases?


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