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Old 02-09-2016, 01:54 PM   #1
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Star Trek (2017 CBS Series)

I don't think there was a thread made for this, but I was curious to hear other people's hopes for this show.

What we know so far:

Star Trek returning to the small screen:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-0...n-2017/6907274

"The new series will air in the United States on CBS All Access from January 2017, but will be available largely behind the paywall on CBS's subscription channel, the broadcaster announced.
It will also be distributed concurrently for television and multiple platforms around the world by CBS Studios International.

The new series will blast off with a special preview on CBS and will then be available with all subsequent episodes on the network's digital subscription service, CBS All Access.

CBS said the new series was not related to the forthcoming Paramount Pictures film Star Trek Beyond, which is due out in mid-2016."

Brian Fuller to show run

http://comicbook.com/2016/02/09/bria...rek-tv-series/
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    Re: Star Trek (2017 CBS Series)

    It would be nice if the series was set in the prime universe, not the JJverse.
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    It would be nice if the series was set in the prime universe, not the JJverse.

    This. If it's the prime universe, I wonder what time period.
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    Good question, but I'm encouraged by the news that Bryan Fuller will be the showrunner. So I'm hoping for post-DS9/Voyager/Nemesis.
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    Something I read when it was first announced was under the impression it was not the JJ universe.
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    Good question, but I'm encouraged by the news that Bryan Fuller will be the showrunner. So I'm hoping for post-DS9/Voyager/Nemesis.
    Me too. I'd love to see a series centered around Section 31; darker and edgier. While not Section 31 centric, one of the best episodes ever is DS9's In the Pale Moonlight.

    Although, I posted in one of the other Star Trek threads that a great idea would be to convince John Cho to play Sulu in the prime universe and do an Excelsior series set after Undiscovered Country and before TNG.
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    Re: Star Trek (2017 CBS Series)

    I read that CBS owns the prime universe and Paramount has the movie rights, so I assume the show will be set in the prime universe and not the movie universe.

    A few months ago I had read an article to that effect but I can't recall where the article was published.
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    http://spinoff.comicbookresources.co...vered-country/

    This sounds promising.

    "According to Birth.Movies.Death, the series will be set sometime after the events of 1991’s “Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country,” the last film in the franchise to feature the entire original cast. A “trusted source” tells the site that the show will employ the increasingly popular seasonal-anthology format, similar to, say, “American Horror Story.”

    That presumably means later seasons could inch closer to the 24th-century setting of “Star Trek: The Next Generation,” “Deep Space Nine” and “Voyager.” It also means, of course, that the series won’t take place in J.J. Abrams’ rebooted movie universe."
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    Although, I posted in one of the other Star Trek threads that a great idea would be to convince John Cho to play Sulu in the prime universe and do an Excelsior series set after Undiscovered Country and before TNG.
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    http://spinoff.comicbookresources.co...vered-country/

    This sounds promising.

    "According to Birth.Movies.Death, the series will be set sometime after the events of 1991’s “Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country,” the last film in the franchise to feature the entire original cast. A “trusted source” tells the site that the show will employ the increasingly popular seasonal-anthology format, similar to, say, “American Horror Story.”

    That presumably means later seasons could inch closer to the 24th-century setting of “Star Trek: The Next Generation,” “Deep Space Nine” and “Voyager.” It also means, of course, that the series won’t take place in J.J. Abrams’ rebooted movie universe."
    Sounds like someone at CBS reads ants.

    I'm totally on board with this. There is a lot of potentially good material in that era. Plus it will be great to potentially see movie-era constitution and excelsior class starships get HD treatment.
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    http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...easer-released

    Title and teaser released
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    Came here to post that new trailer. I dig the name.

    The design of the ship looks similar to the scrapped Star Trek: Phase 2 ship:

    http://cinetropolis.net/wp-content/u...terprise15.png

    I also noted the Discovery's low registry number. Might give some better insight to time period. Has it been confirmed this series takes places after TUC and before TNG?

    Although, I'll say I hope the teaser is just a teaser. That CGI looked painfully amateurish; like a youtube fan movie.
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    Came here to post that new trailer. I dig the name.

    The design of the ship looks similar to the scrapped Star Trek: Phase 2 ship:

    http://cinetropolis.net/wp-content/u...terprise15.png

    I also noted the Discovery's low registry number. Might give some better insight to time period. Has it been confirmed this series takes places after TUC and before TNG?

    Although, I'll say I hope the teaser is just a teaser. That CGI looked painfully amateurish; like a youtube fan movie.
    I noticed the low # too when I saw the trailer.

    I read this:

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-th...tar-1784257704

    "That does make is possible that this flatter, more angular design was prevalent in Starfleet during the time of the movies, and that maybe the ships seen in The Next Generation were older ships. Another option is that the design is a class of ships that was made during that period. Either way, this might support the rumor that the show will be set in the period after the Undiscovered Country and before The Next Generation.

    This is further backed up by the fact that the Discovery is registered as NCC-1031. There’s no canonical reasoning behind the numbers, but the Enterprise is NCC-1701, the Defiant from Deep Space 9 is NX-74205 (“NX” denoting experimental or prototype ships), and Voyager from Voyager was NCC-74656. All the later ships have five numbers. The Discovery, with four like the Enterprise and without a letter like the later Enterprises, might be older. Assuming that Starfleet does the logical thing and numbers its ships in production order, the Discovery might even be older than the Enterprise.

    As for the ship name, there was a starship Discovery in operation during The Next Generation. It had a tiny, tiny mention in the first season episode “Conspiracy.” It shows up in Starfleet’s files, where an order regarding the Discovery’s rendezvous and personnel transfers with other ships is read by Data.

    Since Star Trek: Discovery does take place in the prime universe, that means it shares continuity with that episode. It’s likely not the same ship, but if this show is set before The Next Generation, it’s nice to know that it still has a namesake in the 24th century."
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    I noticed the low # too when I saw the trailer.

    I read this:

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-th...tar-1784257704
    I read that article too.

    I'll say too, that Conspiracy is a grossly underrated TNG episode. It's solid from start to finish, IMO.
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    I wish they'd bridge the gap between Enterprise and TOS, be cool to see the establishment of the federation in more than a holodeck recreation and they could pack it full of action by showing the earth/Romulan war.
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    So I haven't been able to find this anywhere. The only way you can watch this is paying for the CBS service? After it airs, or releases I should say, it won't be available on CBS's app for free like they do with the shows that air on regular tv?
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    I'm really going to out-nerd myself here, but so what....

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    I wish they'd bridge the gap between Enterprise and TOS, be cool to see the establishment of the federation in more than a holodeck recreation and they could pack it full of action by showing the earth/Romulan war.
    I've watched the teaser about 4-5 times now and despite the rumor that this series is going be set post TUC I am thinking it is indeed set after Enterprise but before TOS. I think this for a few reasons:

    1. Low registry number. Discovery's 1031 is really low considering TOS Enterprise is 1701. Yes I acknowledge that the Constellation from the TOS episode Doomsday Machine had a registry of 1017. If you break the fourth wall and realize episode notes indicate this was done for production purposes by cutting up an Enterprise decal, you can kind of throw out the Constellation when discussing continuity.

    2. Ship design. The Discovery doesn't look like it was designed post TUC at all considering we know that the newest and best ship produced right after TUC was the Enterprise-B. Discovery looks very post Enterprise and pre TOS or even post TOS and pre TMP considering it's based of the failed Phase 2 design. It may be just me but it seem funny that this new crew is flying around in the post TUC era in a 70 year old beater when they could have an Enterprise-B comparable Cadillac.

    3. Registry Font and Hull Color. The font of the ship's name and number look very Enterprise and TOS to me. You'll notice the hull of the movies and post TUC ships have more of a blue tone than gray/tan as did Enterprise and TOS. Also, the curve of the movies or post TUC ships' names don't match the Discovery. Plus the any ship post TOS had the red outline around the name and number. Discovery does not. Consider these pics:

    Archer's Enterprise:

    http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media...ew/320x240.jpg

    TOS Enterprise

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...2ea540958d.jpg

    Now consider the font and look of the movies' ships and pre TNG ships:

    Enterprise-A

    http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=de

    Excelsior

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...00-sheet-3.jpg

    Enterprise-C

    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/sc...1701c-mike.jpg


    Speaking of the Romulan War, that's where I really think Enterprise dropped the ball. No one cared about that stupid temporal cold war or that Xindi non-sense. They had a treasure trove of canon material to explore like they did in the 4th season; including the Romulan War which they teased but never fully dove into. If they had started the series with the canon stuff and lead into the war, I bet the series would have lasted longer.

    Wow, that was exhausting

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    So I haven't been able to find this anywhere. The only way you can watch this is paying for the CBS service? After it airs, or releases I should say, it won't be available on CBS's app for free like they do with the shows that air on regular tv?
    From what I've read, it seems like the pilot will are on normal CBS network TV but the rest of the episodes will be available of this pay service CBS is launching ala netflix or HBONow.

    lame.
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    From what I've read, it seems like the pilot will are on normal CBS network TV but the rest of the episodes will be available of this pay service CBS is launching ala netflix or HBONow.

    lame.
    I'd be ok with it if they'd up the episodes on the free part of the app like a day or two later but then I'm sure people wouldn't pay for it if they could just wait a couple days. I just don't see how it's going to be worth the $ to me for one show probably. I guess we'll see.
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    I'd be ok with it if they'd up the episodes on the free part of the app like a day or two later but then I'm sure people wouldn't pay for it if they could just wait a couple days. I just don't see how it's going to be worth the $ to me for one show probably. I guess we'll see.
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    I've watched the teaser about 4-5 times now and despite the rumor that this series is going be set post TUC I am thinking it is indeed set after Enterprise but before TOS. I think this for a few reasons:

    1. Low registry number. Discovery's 1031 is really low considering TOS Enterprise is 1701. Yes I acknowledge that the Constellation from the TOS episode Doomsday Machine had a registry of 1017. If you break the fourth wall and realize episode notes indicate this was done for production purposes by cutting up an Enterprise decal, you can kind of throw out the Constellation when discussing continuity.

    2. Ship design. The Discovery doesn't look like it was designed post TUC at all considering we know that the newest and best ship produced right after TUC was the Enterprise-B. Discovery looks very post Enterprise and pre TOS or even post TOS and pre TMP considering it's based of the failed Phase 2 design. It may be just me but it seem funny that this new crew is flying around in the post TUC era in a 70 year old beater when they could have an Enterprise-B comparable Cadillac.

    3. Registry Font and Hull Color. The font of the ship's name and number look very Enterprise and TOS to me. You'll notice the hull of the movies and post TUC ships have more of a blue tone than gray/tan as did Enterprise and TOS. Also, the curve of the movies or post TUC ships' names don't match the Discovery. Plus the any ship post TOS had the red outline around the name and number. Discovery does not. Consider these pics:

    Archer's Enterprise:

    http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media...ew/320x240.jpg

    TOS Enterprise

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...2ea540958d.jpg

    Now consider the font and look of the movies' ships and pre TNG ships:

    Enterprise-A

    http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=de

    Excelsior

    http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...00-sheet-3.jpg

    Enterprise-C

    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/sc...1701c-mike.jpg


    Speaking of the Romulan War, that's where I really think Enterprise dropped the ball. No one cared about that stupid temporal cold war or that Xindi non-sense. They had a treasure trove of canon material to explore like they did in the 4th season; including the Romulan War which they teased but never fully dove into. If they had started the series with the canon stuff and lead into the war, I bet the series would have lasted longer.

    Wow, that was exhausting

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    From what I've read, it seems like the pilot will are on normal CBS network TV but the rest of the episodes will be available of this pay service CBS is launching ala netflix or HBONow.

    lame.
    Lame on getting people hooked on the first episode and then charging them to watch the rest!

    I am the same geek when it comes to ST stuff.

    Agreed on the problematic nature of Enterprise which I largely liked. The temporal cold war was pretty pointless IMO, ditto with the Xindi season. Largely I think they did good in seasons 1,2 and 4 but I wish they would have explored more of the Vulcan/Andorian conflict instead of the cold war. Also agree they should have shown the actual Romulan war.
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    Lots of good stuff in this article from a presser with Fuller.

    http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/10...trek-tv-series

    Two highlights...

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    Lots of good stuff in this article from a presser with Fuller.

    http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/10...trek-tv-series

    Two highlights...



    and...
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    Trekgasm.
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    Old 01-18-2017, 07:53 PM   #24
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    Lots of good stuff in this article from a presser with Fuller.

    http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/10...trek-tv-series
    With Fuller completely out, I don't know exactly how true this will stay.
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    That's a bummer! I was excited about this one

    Oh well, I can wait.
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    Old 01-18-2017, 11:17 PM   #26
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    Yeah I can wait it out, too. What's another bunch of months given it's been over 10 years since Enterprise ended?
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    I can wait too. I agree, about Fuller's lack of involvement. Although, I'm glad we are finally getting back to the prime universe.
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    "‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Finds Its Captain In Jason Isaacs"
    http://deadline.com/2017/03/star-tre...st-1202038246/


    I had no idea who this guy is so I had to look him up. Wikipedia: "He is known for playing Lucius Malfoy in the Harry Potter films, Colonel William Tavington in The Patriot, and criminal Michael Caffee in the American television series Brotherhood.[3] In December 2016, he played the lead antagonist in the Netflix series The OA.[4]"
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    Old 03-09-2017, 09:57 AM   #29
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    "‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Finds Its Captain In Jason Isaacs"
    http://deadline.com/2017/03/star-tre...st-1202038246/


    I had no idea who this guy is so I had to look him up. Wikipedia: "He is known for playing Lucius Malfoy in the Harry Potter films, Colonel William Tavington in The Patriot, and criminal Michael Caffee in the American television series Brotherhood.[3] In December 2016, he played the lead antagonist in the Netflix series The OA.[4]"
    Great choice for a captain. I'm pumped.
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