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Originally Posted by timgengler
It blows my mind equally how people can NOT like SU... But there's the difference... I dont believe my opinion is any more right or valid then anybody else's. It also blows my mind that people can post 10, 20 30 thousand posts and more... How much free time do you guys have... especially when all that time is spent being negative... And lack of emotion on SU?? How about steady as we go? Another song that I am confused by how many people hate. And how about emotion as a positive thing or feeling... 'emotional' doesnt just have to be sad or slow or make you cry. It was 80 degrees this weekend at the beach here in So Cal this weekend... I put my windows down, opened up my sun roof and blasted SU on my new system as I just cruised the beach and PCH. It felt so good and the songs were perfect for that mood. Only had to skip a couple songs to keep the flow (SA55th&3rd for example.... never been a big, or even little fan of that song,) Now maybe if I had just broken up with my fiance', had just gotten fired from a great job or I was just hating life, Before these Crowded Streets would have been a perfect choice tp blast and get lost in. Point is, maybe the emotion in Stand Up and the point in the album was to be a an album that made you STAND UP and move... to feel good. Creatively the songs grew when live, like all their songs, but the album versions were designed they way they were for a reason. And it's easy to be critical of your own work... dave's a bit of a lyrical perfectionist and his own biggest critic... he's never completely satisfied, even when he is... boyd loves stand up, fonze loved the feel of it too and the room he had to write... So everybody should ease up on the negativity and realize that just because there are others of you that believe SU was a lapse in creativity and the "NORMAL" sound that "IS" DMB, doesnt make you right... just makes you guys a lil' closed minded and unable to see what they were doing did, and will continue to do... write music for them, not us. While it wouldnt be nearly as often, if we didnt listen, DMB would still occiasionally get together and play because that is what they love to do... play music that they like.
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Bold Point Rebuttles:
1. Post count doesn't have to account towards free time, so please don't unecessarily bash members on here who are valid posters in a forum for no reason that doesn't support the subject whatsoever. If you want to know, a lot of these people post in nDMB related forums where they talk to a lot of friends that are made via this forum. A lot post from work and school....Now back to the argument at hand.
2. I'm a level headed thinker. I would never say anything this band does "Sucks" because they are artists - and well, it's theirs...but I will be damned if I can't critique them. Steady As We Go? From a musical standpoint - come on. Any 10th grade garage band can perform this piece. A simple (and not simple like Pay For What You Get-esque), drumming work from Carter. And by simple, I mean the first three minutes are Carter working on a crash and high hat and occasionally hitting the toms when he wants to. The song is nothing more than a piano piece covered by an occasional bass line and 20 seconds of horns. I personally have never thought the lyrics were that bad....but in comparison to anything the band has done in the past...It isn't as creative as what they can be - that's all anyone is trying to say.
3. Exactly. What happened to Dave being emotional about Genocide, about Wars in other countries, about society, about conformity, about true human emotion. Stand Up is about sex and love....and George W. Bush. Find something else, I dare you.
4. I don't hate Stand Up. Yeah, during Summer Time I do listen to Stand Up at times, and I get lost in the fact that it is good background music for a warm day. But that isn't the argument in hand. We are talking about creativity and overall composition standards of the band. Nothing on Stand Up holds a candle to anything pre 2005.
5. The band likes the sessions because they had fun. Because they made the record with a producer that was a friend - because there was really truly no work to it. Ok, that's cool I guess - They are millionaires, and whose to say anything about what they want to do with their time. But as fans of the band, some of us are accepting to what the band puts out just because it says "Dave Matthews Band" and others of us care what the band puts out based on the amount of work and true musicianship they placed on the sessions.
6. Why should the negative people ease up, and why shouldn't over positive people ease up? Most people you consider negative are the biggest supporters of this band and know their true potential. Everyone has their own opinion, so no one in a true perfect world should have to change anything they feel. - Also, the band should continue making music for them, and not for us? Unless they plan on selling 25 million records to their family - I'm going to guess they should keep on considering WHAT the fans want. It's a smart thing to do if your a productive musician.