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Old 07-20-2010, 05:08 PM   #181
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Since we're asking "how is it ...?" questions, here's one from DH:

When we get the Regulus Black story (his getting the locket and replacing it with a dummy) how is it that the basin on the island in the cave gets filled back up with Voldemorts potion that Dumbledore drinks in HBP?


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    You can't use a spoiler and a quote in the same post on this board, for whatever reason.
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    Since we're asking "how is it ...?" questions, here's one from DH:

    When we get the Regulus Black story (his getting the locket and replacing it with a dummy) how is it that the basin on the island in the cave gets filled back up with Voldemorts potion that Dumbledore drinks in HBP?
    haha... I asked that exact question awhile back in either the HBP thread or the general Potter one. Sort of the same kind of principle as in book 1, if Quirrell had already gown all the way down to the mirror first, how come all of the obstacles were like they hadn't been touched yet (particularly the giant chess board).

    But back to the basin, in the movie when Harry's trying to get Dumbledore some water and he magics it into the basin but that can't scoop it up, I wondered why Harry didn't simply magic it straight into the shell, or better yet directly into Dumbledore's mouth. Surely that would've worked.

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    i think he knew this, but was alluding to the fact that Snape or whoever must have had some incredible stores of ingredients..if Harry and Ron changed back within an hour and the potion took a month to make, Bartie had to have been stocking up for a couple years to have enough to last an entire school year. it just doesnt seem plausible
    Yea, I mean I remember that Snape accuses Harry of stealing the ingredients (in fact I love that little moment in the end when it's revealed who'd been stealing them, Dumbledore says it and Snape looks over to Harry and Harry gives him this smirk, like "see??" ) but yea since he obviously would've needed HUGE amounts of the potion, I was just wondering if the popular idea among the fans was that he didn't bother to keep taking it overnight when he would sleep, he would look like Bartie because he wasn't in the company of anyone else.
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    at all of the overthinking.
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    haha... I asked that exact question awhile back in either the HBP thread or the general Potter one. Sort of the same kind of principle as in book 1, if Quirrell had already gown all the way down to the mirror first, how come all of the obstacles were like they hadn't been touched yet (particularly the giant chess board).

    But back to the basin, in the movie when Harry's trying to get Dumbledore some water and he magics it into the basin but that can't scoop it up, I wondered why Harry didn't simply magic it straight into the shell, or better yet directly into Dumbledore's mouth. Surely that would've worked.



    Yea, I mean I remember that Snape accuses Harry of stealing the ingredients (in fact I love that little moment in the end when it's revealed who'd been stealing them, Dumbledore says it and Snape looks over to Harry and Harry gives him this smirk, like "see??" ) but yea since he obviously would've needed HUGE amounts of the potion, I was just wondering if the popular idea among the fans was that he didn't bother to keep taking it overnight when he would sleep, he would look like Bartie because he wasn't in the company of anyone else.
    I watched HBP last Friday to wrap up the HP weekend from before and I thought the exact thing as the bolded. I also realized I want a lion like Luna has.
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    Old 07-20-2010, 06:30 PM   #186
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    I watched HBP last Friday to wrap up the HP weekend from before and I thought the exact thing as the bolded. I also realized I want a lion like Luna has.
    Am i the only one in thinking that the girl that plays Luna is attractive in an odd sort of way?
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    at all of the overthinking.
    well, depends on how you define "over thinking" I mean for me personally, these things I'm talking about came to me pretty quickly, so not like I was sitting there heavily analyzing the movie or anything. And of course none of these things take away from the movies at all, just curious little details that come to mind from being such a fan.

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    Am i the only one in thinking that the girl that plays Luna is attractive in an odd sort of way?
    Not at all, I think she's adorable. My ranking is:

    1. Ginny
    2. Pansy Parkinson (as we all know in the books she's portrayed as not all that attractive at all, but first exposure in HBP I thought she was pretty hot)
    4. Cho
    5. Luna
    6. Hermione
    7. Lavender Brown
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    well, depends on how you define "over thinking" I mean for me personally, these things I'm talking about came to me pretty quickly, so not like I was sitting there heavily analyzing the movie or anything. And of course none of these things take away from the movies at all, just curious little details that come to mind from being such a fan.



    Not at all, I think she's adorable. My ranking is:

    1. Ginny
    2. Pansy Parkinson (as we all know in the books she's portrayed as not all that attractive at all, but first exposure in HBP I thought she was pretty hot)
    4. Cho
    5. Luna
    6. Hermione
    7. Lavender Brown
    Bolded: lol i never really think on these things too deeply as i just sorta trust JK that it all works out in the wizarding world (especially as it is HER world).

    Underlined: I really only have a top 3

    1. Ginny
    2. Luna
    3. Hermione

    oh yeah... http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pho...-2400-1607.jpg
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    Evanna Lynch is eccentric pretty. http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pho...-2400-1607.jpg


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    Evanna Lynch is eccentric pretty. http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pho...-2400-1607.jpg


    edit: great minds...
    She just seems like someone that is really down to earth and is a little cutie.
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    I'd hang out with her any day. Anyone who makes their own radish earrings for a role is cool in my book.
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    I watched HBP last Friday to wrap up the HP weekend from before and I thought the exact thing as the bolded. I also realized I want a lion like Luna has.
    Biggest disappointment of all the movies was when Luna's lion wasn't magically-enhanced, as it was in the book.

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    ginny is butt ugly. you guys are wrong.
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    Underlined: I really only have a top 3

    1. Ginny
    2. Luna
    3. Hermione

    Wow, I'm really surprised. I very rarely come across another fan whose #1 is Ginny, I'd always seemed to be one of the very few who thought so (particularly with how much love Emma Watson gets, but she's just never really done anything for me).

    And as much as I think HBP the movie focused a bit too much on the relationships, between that and OOTP they really dropped the ball on showing Harry's transition from Cho to Ginny, it's of course dealt with much more clearly in the books. It's like there's no sort of closure at all in OOTP for Harry and Cho, then whammo, right at the start of HBP Harry's suddenly in love with Ginny pretty much, practically out of nowhere (for people who have only seen the movies, that is).
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    Wow, I'm really surprised. I very rarely come across another fan whose #1 is Ginny, I'd always seemed to be one of the very few who thought so (particularly with how much love Emma Watson gets, but she's just never really done anything for me).
    The way she is portrayed in the books then coupled with the looks of Bonnie Wright she is my favorite. But Luna is a very close second. Hermione is way too pompous for me.
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    Btw I'm curious to see what was the point of getting a name actor like Bill Nighy for the role of Scrimgeour. I mean they already left him out of HBP, and so unless they're creating new stuff for him, they got Nighy just for the scene of delivering the items from the will.

    oh, wait, unless maybe they're going to actually show some of the attack on the Ministry that happens during the wedding.
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    This may have been asked earlier or in the other thread but:
    Is the damage to the burrow repairable so the wedding happens there? Or do you think it'll take place elsewhere?
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    This may have been asked earlier or in the other thread but:
    Is the damage to the burrow repairable so the wedding happens there? Or do you think it'll take place elsewhere?
    dont see where else it could happen, so im sure it'll be repaired
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    Really bad ass montage video here. Of course i really like Breaking Benjamin.

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    That was really excellent, especially the last two minutes. And oh how I love a quality montage.
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    Something else I've been meaning to ask for awhile, and this is a character that you'd think definintely will be appearing in DH.

    Look at this guy, he's really short, from the POC series, always goes around with his one taller friend (Gareth from the origininal BBC Office) at first they consider themselves as part of the crew of the bad guys, but eventually come around. They help to ad a lot of comic relief.

    Anyway here's the actor -- Lee Arenberg
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0034305/

    Every since I first saw Mundungus Fletcher described in the books, my mind instantly went to THAT guy.
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    1.) Cho (I've got a mad case of yellow fever)
    2.) Hermoine
    3.) Ginny
    4.) Luna

    Not saying Luna is bad.. as weird of a girl as she is (and she may be a lesbian, hawt) she's got that girl next door thing going on.
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    Those mugglenet/mugglecast guys are like the KINGS of HP nerdiness. To think they've been doing those podcasts for 4 years(?)...wow.
    it took them at least 2 minutes to figure out that voldemort was standing on top of dumbledore's coffin in one of the still frames. that's a bit too long. it should take no more than 5 seconds given how obvious the shot is. nerdy, but slightly off their game since '07.

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    i think he knew this, but was alluding to the fact that Snape or whoever must have had some incredible stores of ingredients..if Harry and Ron changed back within an hour and the potion took a month to make, Bartie had to have been stocking up for a couple years to have enough to last an entire school year. it just doesnt seem plausible
    it takes hours for them to change back in the book. even in the movie there is some quip line about "hours". not one hour or half an hour, although it felt that way reading it/watching it. they also only needed a swig to transform. so if one swig lasts you a few hours, you could conceivably make a cauldron of polyjuice potion last at least a month if not more (in my mind). seems plausible to me.

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    Geez, as far as main characters go, Hermione is clearly the hottest
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    it took them at least 2 minutes to figure out that voldemort was standing on top of dumbledore's coffin in one of the still frames. that's a bit too long. it should take no more than 5 seconds given how obvious the shot is. nerdy, but slightly off their game since '07.



    it takes hours for them to change back in the book. even in the movie there is some quip line about "hours". not one hour or half an hour, although it felt that way reading it/watching it. they also only needed a swig to transform. so if one swig lasts you a few hours, you could conceivably make a cauldron of polyjuice potion last at least a month if not more (in my mind). seems plausible to me.
    Well no, it was definitely set up in Chamber as taking the potion would allow you to impersonate that person for a period of just one hour. Though granted, when we see the trio drink there's, they have full glasses and they only take a sip, being so grossed out by the tastes they each drop to the floor. So yea it is a valid point, and since you obviously only need one typical sip of it to last an hour, if you drank the entire glass (& presuming you could hold back on the vomiting later) that would that give you a couple of hours consecutively.
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    Something else I've been meaning to ask for awhile, and this is a character that you'd think definintely will be appearing in DH.

    Look at this guy, he's really short, from the POC series, always goes around with his one taller friend (Gareth from the origininal BBC Office) at first they consider themselves as part of the crew of the bad guys, but eventually come around. They help to ad a lot of comic relief.

    Anyway here's the actor -- Lee Arenberg
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0034305/

    Every since I first saw Mundungus Fletcher described in the books, my mind instantly went to THAT guy.
    had similar thoughts. Not to his character specifically but i always thought that he should have made it into the HP series somewhere.
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    Well no, it was definitely set up in Chamber as taking the potion would allow you to impersonate that person for a period of just one hour. Though granted, when we see the trio drink there's, they have full glasses and they only take a sip, being so grossed out by the tastes they each drop to the floor. So yea it is a valid point, and since you obviously only need one typical sip of it to last an hour, if you drank the entire glass (& presuming you could hold back on the vomiting later) that would that give you a couple of hours consecutively.
    It could also be that in Chamber they weren't very skilled potion makers and it didn't have the same potentness as Bartie's had. I mean it talks about how it is a very difficult potion to make and they are only second years, therefore a fully educated wizard like Bartie could have done a better job in making his.
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    I love reading in depth analysis of fictional stuff.

    Sidenote: a friend of mine and her family are in Fla for vacay and went to Universal yesterday and called me from the Wizarding World....I honestly started tearing up when she was describing everything to me, lol. She said butterbeer is indescribeably delicious. Also she bought me a Hogwarts mug. F yeah.
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    She said butterbeer is indescribeably delicious.

    Tell her to smuggle some of that shit back up with her to the Buckeye state

    Btw, looking at another minor detail, and from no particular book or movie, but the whole series... so often when a basic task needs to be completed, it's presented that invariably it can be done better and quicker with magic, than how a muggle could handle it. Well but there's one thing us muggles would still have on 'em, and actually it's a pretty HUGE thing - cell phones. Think about it, wizards have no way of instantaneously communicating with one another, to have a direct back and forth. Or, that it's pretty limited to say the least. True, if you're old enough you can apparate to where someone's going to be all the way across the country, but you don't even know for sure they'll be there. You can talk to someone thru the fireplace but only if you're hooked up to the flu network.
    I mean owl post may have the advantage that even if you don't know where your quarry is, somehow your own will still be able to find them to deliver the letter, so long as the name is written down, but still there's the obvious flight time for them.
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    Tell her to smuggle some of that shit back up with her to the Buckeye state

    Btw, looking at another minor detail, and from no particular book or movie, but the whole series... so often when a basic task needs to be completed, it's presented that invariably it can be done better and quicker with magic, than how a muggle could handle it. Well but there's one thing us muggles would still have on 'em, and actually it's a pretty HUGE thing - cell phones. Think about it, wizards have no way of instantaneously communicating with one another, to have a direct back and forth. Or, that it's pretty limited to say the least. True, if you're old enough you can apparate to where someone's going to be all the way across the country, but you don't even know for sure they'll be there. You can talk to someone thru the fireplace but only if you're hooked up to the flu network.
    I mean owl post may have the advantage that even if you don't know where your quarry is, somehow your own will still be able to find them to deliver the letter, so long as the name is written down, but still there's the obvious flight time for them.
    That's what I love about the series. I love that Rowling keeps wizards human. They're not infallible and just like muggles, they can be resistant to change. I love that Arthur Weasley has no freaking idea how to use a subway. He can make dinner appear, but that doesn't make him a superior being. He still has to learn things. I think wizards don't have cell phones because just like muggles, they are resistant to change. set in their ways. they think their way is the best.

    I also love that you aren't automatically born knowing eveything about being a wizard. There are skilled wizards and not so skilled wizards. You have to learn how to get rid of a bogart just like we learn how to drive a truck. Some muggles are good at basketball and some are not. Some wizards are good at potions, some are not. So maybe Harry doesn't make the water appear in the shell in HPB because just like any human, he's panicked, scared, distraught, and not thinking clearly.

    These things are what I love most about the series. Rowling doesn't make life lessons easier just because you're a wizard. Brilliant.
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