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Old 03-21-2017, 07:53 AM   #17671
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Title: New documents show Trump aide laundered payments from party with Moscow ties

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A Ukrainian lawmaker released new financial documents Tuesday allegedly showing that a former campaign chairman for President Trump laundered payments from the party of a disgraced ex-leader of Ukraine using offshore accounts in Belize and Kyrgyzstan.

The new documents, if legitimate, stem from business ties between the Trump aide, Paul Manafort, and the party of former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, who enjoyed Moscow’s backing while he was in power
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Manafort, who worked for Yanukovych’s Party of Regions for nearly a decade, resigned from Trump’s campaign in August after his name surfaced in connection with secret payments totaling $12.7 million by Yanukovych’s party.
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...released a copy of an invoice on letterhead from Manafort’s consulting company, based in Alexandria, Va., dated Oct. 14, 2009, to a Belize-based company for $750,000 for the sale of 501 computers.

On the same day, Manafort’s name is listed next to a $750,000 entry in the “black ledger,” which was considered a party slush fund
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    Basically, Pauly is probably going to do some time behind bars.

    Lock him up!
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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:03 AM   #17673
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    I thought all that was old news.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:07 AM   #17674
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    A free phone? What is this 2002?. This is why I don't work there anymore although there was nothing better then someone coming in with "I'm here for my free phone" they just ruining their day.

    You could probably still get a 6s cheap with an upgrade? Trying going to a Verizon reseller not a corporate store they can cut some corners.


    I got my current one for free in 2015 lol

    I'll have to go today and see what's up. I need a new one
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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:09 AM   #17675
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    I thought all that was old news.
    The $750K payment that looks an awful lot like money laundering was discovered in documents released yesterday.

    The undisclosed payments that he received from Ukraine's pro-Russia leader was discovered last summer and is what forced him out of Trump's campaign. These weren't (as far as I'm aware) illegal; they just looked horrible for the Trump camp. But this news, if accurate, is 100% illegal.

    They're somewhat separate issues, but the link is what makes this look super bad.

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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:13 AM   #17676
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    I got my current one for free in 2015 lol

    I'll have to go today and see what's up. I need a new one
    Switch to sprint. Bill will be cheaper, and you can get on the rental type program where you get a new iphone every year.

    That is, as long as the service isnt shit where you live.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:19 AM   #17677
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    Verizon for just one phone is pretty cheap now even with the new unlimited plan
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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:20 AM   #17678
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    Can't see the article on phones. Wants me to be a subscriber
    Pro tip: right click link and open in incognito window (for Chrome anyway)

    Works for this and the news sites that want you to turn off adblock
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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:29 AM   #17679
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    He's a deal maker who enjoys making deals. Long term consequences don't matter. It's why he's had three marriages, 4 bankruptcies, put his name on steaks, universities, etc. He doesn't think anything through. He gets a rush out of getting things done, and quickly. Quality be damned. You can see it with this health care bill. He just wants it done so he can move on to something else. That next thing he'll do will be crappy as well. Being president is hard.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 08:57 AM   #17680
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    Shotty talked about Obama and not hitting 3% growth. Here's a good article on why trump probably won't hit 3% either. Short version, it's hard if your population isn't growing fast (like it was in the 80s) and you don't have a huge influx of immigrants and live in an advanced society.

    http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017...ics-stagnation
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:10 AM   #17681
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    Shotty talked about Obama and not hitting 3% growth. Here's a good article on why trump probably won't hit 3% either. Short version, it's hard if your population isn't growing fast (like it was in the 80s) and you don't have a huge influx of immigrants and live in an advanced society.

    http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017...ics-stagnation
    It's also hard to grow with sequestration, prolonged tax cuts, and lowest levels of non-discretionary spending in 15 years. Obama inherited the worst economy any POTUS had been handed since FDR, and he righted the ship without relying on the war machine to boost growth.

    GDP is equal to Consumer Spending + Investment + Government Spending + Net Exports.

    So when the bold is drastically reduced through spending cuts via sequestration, and revenues are continually too low due to unfunded tax cuts that you can't end because it would kill recovery, you simply aren't going to have large growth (plus the plethora of other economic headwinds from Europe, the burden from the aging of baby boomers, etc).

    And because Trump is advocating such large cuts (not necessarily in this first budget, but suggesting it down the road) that don't seem to be targeted at boosting middle class spending - plus his talk on trade likely to hurt NX - his only path for growth is to have a huge influx in Investment; likely as a result of large corporate handouts. And that isn't sustainable.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:16 AM   #17682
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    So the UK followed suit with the US on the ipad/laptop ban.

    Am I wrong but isnt this pretty pointless? If you can still have your smartphone on you then why even bother?
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:16 AM   #17683
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    can't wait to hear about the snowflakes clogging up the court system with lawsuits to try and stop the electronics ban that doesn't even affect them.... you know, until an ipad blows up their plane.
    As long as there is a good guy with an iPad on the flight, we'll be ok.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:21 AM   #17684
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/illegal-i...191830143.html

    Odd. I thought Canucks loved diversity.
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    Fox & Friends say you didn't miss anything yesterday in Comey's testimony

    https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/st...26949693784064

    Now THAT is some serious spin

    Finds out POTUS associates are under FBI investigation? Nothing to see here folks

    Finds out Trump lied about wiretapping? Nothing to see
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:30 AM   #17686
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    Fox & Friends say you didn't miss anything yesterday in Comey's testimony

    https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/st...26949693784064

    Now THAT is some serious spin
    I mean... what did we miss...?
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:30 AM   #17687
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    I always assumed Canada was the whitest place on earth.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:31 AM   #17688
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    I mean... what did we miss...?
    Found the Fox & Friends viewer.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:31 AM   #17689
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    I mean... what did we miss...?
    Oh you, know, just that the FBI director A) told us there is an active investigation into Trump campaign collusion with Russia and B) Donald Trump's claims of Obama wiretapping and watergate-comparisons are not based in reality.

    Or if you're a Trump fan - nothing at all, apparently
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    Justin, here's something you'll love. Your 'libs are hypocrites' meter will go off the charts

    http://gothamist.com/2017/03/20/maga_hat_safe_space.php

    Also, scroll down to comments to see a great photo of the dude and his lawyer.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:34 AM   #17691
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    Never has a group in power been more persecuted than the MAGA hat wearing Trump supporter. The civil rights struggle of our time.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:40 AM   #17692
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    justin is actually friends with comey and already knew trump was under investigation before yesterday
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:41 AM   #17693
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    Justin, here's something you'll love. Your 'libs are hypocrites' meter will go off the charts

    http://gothamist.com/2017/03/20/maga_hat_safe_space.php

    Also, scroll down to comments to see a great photo of the dude and his lawyer.
    That can't have really happened? It reads like an onion article.
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    Old 03-21-2017, 09:46 AM   #17694
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    Oh you, know, just that the FBI director A) told us there is an active investigation into Trump campaign collusion with Russia and B) Donald Trump's claims of Obama wiretapping and watergate-comparisons are not based in reality.

    Or if you're a Trump fan - nothing at all, apparently
    Don't forget about how the person who was running his campaign was laundering lots of money from eastern Europe.
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    That can't have really happened? It reads like an onion article.
    I think the Trump dude is obviously trolling based on what he's saying, but it's still real lawsuit apparently.

    I'm a little split, to be honest. I guess the bar can refuse service to anyone they want but it is a little hypocritical. If a bunch of MAGAs came to my club I wouldn't kick them out, maybe I'd just bump their drink costs up a little Republicans are all millionaires right? They can afford it.
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    I think the Trump dude is obviously trolling based on what he's saying, but it's still real lawsuit apparently.

    I'm a little split, to be honest. I guess the bar can refuse service to anyone they want but it is a little hypocritical. If a bunch of MAGAs came to my club I wouldn't kick them out, maybe I'd just bump their drink costs up a little Republicans are all millionaires right? They can afford it.
    That's assuming the customers were being respectful and not disrupting other guests
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    That's assuming the customers were being respectful and not disrupting other guests
    Well sure, but that's any customer. Get a few drinks in and anyone from any walk of life can become a obnoxious piece of shit
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    Looks like a campaign promise bust: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...precedent.html

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    Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the first Democrat to question Gorsuch, immediately followed up, citing the importance of the issue since, she said, President Trump “said he would appoint someone who would overturn Roe.”

    “Once a case is settled, that adds to the determinacy of the law,"
    Gorsuch told Feinstein, clarifying his position on precedent. “What was once a hotly-contested issue is no longer a hotly-contested issue. We move forward.
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    I think the Trump dude is obviously trolling based on what he's saying, but it's still real lawsuit apparently.

    I'm a little split, to be honest. I guess the bar can refuse service to anyone they want but it is a little hypocritical. If a bunch of MAGAs came to my club I wouldn't kick them out, maybe I'd just bump their drink costs up a little Republicans are all millionaires right? They can afford it.
    I'm still trying to figure out how he reasons that wearing a maga hat is paying tribute to those who lost their lives on 9/11
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    Eh, Roe v Wade was a very dumb decision, but it isn't going anywhere. The way to fight abortion is at the state level, just like what's been going on. Getting rid of Roe v Wade still wouldn't stop the uber blue states from doing what they do.
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