** College Football Season **

[emu513]

Ok. Got it. Browns have literally nothing going for them.

[YouNeverKnow25]

honestly why did I even engage, that's on me. the browns are 4-28 over last two years with no wins against playoff teams.

but yeah, plug in a quarterback and the offense is great

[Lee3691]

Wasn't the standard if these guys could literally start for any other team in the NFL? I am thinking they could find 1 or 2.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by emu513

Ok. Got it. Browns have literally nothing going for them.

i just think you're grasping for straws

there really isn't much there at all other than Joe Thomas and Joe Haden on a good day/when healthy

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

honestly why did I even engage, that's on me. the browns are 4-28 over last two years with no wins against playoff teams.

but yeah, plug in a quarterback and the offense is great

[thebridge15]

the browns being bad is under dispute?

[emu513]

Joe Haden, but only on a good day. Got it.

I don't think I'm grasping for straws saying that the players I've mentioned are solid. I mean, I find it ridiculous to suggest otherwise but I am do not see as clearly as those who are viewing the Browns through black and yellow colored lenses.

[emu513]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

the browns being bad is under dispute?

Nope. Not at all.

[unccrombie]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

i just think you're grasping for straws

there really isn't much there at all other than Joe Thomas and Joe Haden on a good day/when healthy

Corey Coleman has massive potential

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by emu513

Joe Haden, but only on a good day. Got it.

I don't think I'm grasping for straws saying that the players I've mentioned are solid. I mean, I find it ridiculous to suggest otherwise but I am do not see as clearly as those who are viewing the Browns through black and yellow colored lenses.

lol what???

Originally Posted by unccrombie

Corey Coleman has massive potential

potential...sure

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

Joe Thomas for sure

Isiah Crowell isn't that good...never had a 1,000 season and 4.3 yards/carry career average

Pryor remains to be seen

To be fair with Crowell, you're not running the ball as much when you're behind every game

[YouNeverKnow25]

yeah my black and yellow colored lenses sure are strong

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Roose13

To be fair with Crowell, you're not running the ball as much when you're behind every game

even still, the eye test leaves a lot to be desired with him. he's just another guy IMO

he doesn't really do anything above average

Crowell, Ryan Mathews, Jeremy Hill, Rashad Jennings, Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory...they are all basically the same, completely interchangeable

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

yeah my black and yellow colored lenses sure are strong

[unccrombie]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

lol what???



potential...sure

i'd argue corey is a better receiver than anyone on the Ravens, Niners, Dolphins, Jags, and Bills. To name a few...

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by unccrombie

i'd argue corey is a better receiver than anyone on the Ravens, Niners, Dolphins, Jags, and Bills. To name a few...

i dunno, maybe the Niners & Ravens

he's def not better than Allen Robinson, Jarvis Landry or Sammy Watkins though

at least not yet

[jrkarger]

Who knew the 2016 Browns were the best 1-15 team in NFL history?




Black and Yellow lenses.

[MOWJO8185]

Something I just read that I would have never thought of - should Alabama have purposely committed PI on Clemson's last TD?

There are 6 seconds left. Enough time in theory for Clemson to run a play and then also kick a field goal if that play is unsuccessful. If you just tackle all of their receivers, you probably drain all the time off the clock. Clemson gets one untimed down, but in that case they have to choose between a final do-or-die play, or else settling for the field goal, instead of both being options.

Of course, that 6 second down could have gone horribly wrong for Clemson as well and not preserved enough time for a field goal try at all.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

Something I just read that I would have never thought of - should Alabama have purposely committed PI on Clemson's last TD?

There are 6 seconds left. Enough time in theory for Clemson to run a play and then also kick a field goal if that play is unsuccessful. If you just tackle all of their receivers, you probably drain all the time off the clock. Clemson gets one untimed down, but in that case they have to choose between a final do-or-die play, or else settling for the field goal, instead of both being options.

Of course, that 6 second down could have gone horribly wrong for Clemson as well and not preserved enough time for a field goal try at all.

oh yea absolutely

it's the same reason why the DPI on the previous play was a good penalty to take. Wrap up the WR or lose the game? easy decision there

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Can you please speak up - very difficult to hear what any team 7 or lower is saying?

Bro, #3 can't hear you...

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by neumdogg

Bro, #3 can't hear you...

I love you.

[CrushB610]

Originally Posted by unccrombie

i'd argue corey is a better receiver than anyone on the Ravens, Niners, Dolphins, Jags, and Bills. To name a few...

Can throw the Eagles on that list....

Rams and Titans as well off the top.

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

i dunno, maybe the Niners & Ravens

he's def not better than Allen Robinson, Jarvis Landry or Sammy Watkins though

at least not yet

yeah he's not better than any of those guys.

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

Something I just read that I would have never thought of - should Alabama have purposely committed PI on Clemson's last TD?

There are 6 seconds left. Enough time in theory for Clemson to run a play and then also kick a field goal if that play is unsuccessful. If you just tackle all of their receivers, you probably drain all the time off the clock. Clemson gets one untimed down, but in that case they have to choose between a final do-or-die play, or else settling for the field goal, instead of both being options.

Of course, that 6 second down could have gone horribly wrong for Clemson as well and not preserved enough time for a field goal try at all.

I heard that too today.. never occurred to me. Very interesting and most likely an effective strategy in that scenario.

[emu513]

Originally Posted by jrkarger

Who knew the 2016 Browns were the best 1-15 team in NFL history?




Black and Yellow lenses.

That's quite the interpretation of the conversation.

[emu513]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

Something I just read that I would have never thought of - should Alabama have purposely committed PI on Clemson's last TD?

There are 6 seconds left. Enough time in theory for Clemson to run a play and then also kick a field goal if that play is unsuccessful. If you just tackle all of their receivers, you probably drain all the time off the clock. Clemson gets one untimed down, but in that case they have to choose between a final do-or-die play, or else settling for the field goal, instead of both being options.

Of course, that 6 second down could have gone horribly wrong for Clemson as well and not preserved enough time for a field goal try at all.

Definitely. But that move hasn't hit the mainstream until this year in the NFL so not probably on someone's mind. Would be surprised if there isn't some sort of rule around that at some point.

[JRS1386]

Still annoyed I can find literally nothing about the late penalty on DaRon Payne

[Lee3691]

Looks like all of our friends might be back

Ohio State & Alabama flipping back & forth between #1 & #2 recruiting classes

[MOWJO8185]

Clemson this year beat the four most recent national title programs (Bama, Ohio State, Florida State, Auburn).

Obviously, for FSU and Auburn (and seemingly Ohio State after that semifinal game) those programs aren't at the level they were when they won the title, but it's still a cool talking point to throw around.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

Clemson this year beat the four most recent national title programs (Bama, Ohio State, Florida State, Auburn).

Obviously, for FSU and Auburn (and seemingly Ohio State after that semifinal game) those programs aren't at the level they were when they won the title, but it's still a cool talking point to throw around.

Saw a stat that the last 9 National Champions have a total of 6 losses between them (makes sense, some undefeated, some with 1 loss), and every single loss was at home.

[bamadavefan15]

Rhett Lashlee out at Auburn. Really hope Gus makes a good hire.

I've got a name in mind that I think would do great things, but I'm biased. We shall see what route Gus wants to take. Whoever it is, I hope they get the reigns of the offense.

[iMAC386]

USC ended up at #3 in the final AP poll.

lol

They jumped from 9 to 3. Voters are idiots.

[ExistenceNow]

#5 seems more appropriate. I think OU and OSU should be above them.