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Old 08-23-2016, 08:44 PM   #5341
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"In his Rose Garden comments, Obama said "the NRA used to support expanded background checks." He’s correct: In congressional testimony following the Columbine High School shooting, LaPierre called it "reasonable" to conduct a background check "for every sale at every gun show. No loopholes anywhere for anyone." Subsequent statements by NRA officials acknowledge that the group’s position has since changed to opposition to more background checks. So we rate Obama’s statement True.'

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    You think making fun of kids dying from Anaphylactic shock is "offensive"? Making racist jokes is offensive...making jokes about women cooking and cleaning is offensive. Making jokes about kids dying from food allergies and implying we should just let them die is sub-human.

    Honestly I could care less what comedians joke about. I realize being "offensive" is part of their job. I'm fine with that. All I said was that I didn't find it funny...then all you jackasses start attacking me. To each is own I guess, but at some point I'd think some of you would look in the fucking mirror and realize what you're defending.....
    freedom of speech and funny shit? yeah.

    i'm not down with the rage culture though.
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    Gross Luckily he has seen the light.


    Just FYI, there is a background check performed for every sale from a licensed dealer(which are the overwhelming majority) at gun shows.
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    freedom of speech and funny shit? yeah.

    i'm not down with the rage culture though.
    What is the rage culture?

    I agree CK has the right to say whatever the fuck he wants. Just like I'm allowed to say he's sub-human for the "jokes" he makes. No free speech issue here.
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    Old 08-23-2016, 08:51 PM   #5345
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    Gross Luckily he has seen the light.


    Just FYI, there is a background check performed for every sale from a licensed dealer(which are the overwhelming majority) at gun shows.

    I'm sorry but for the acquisition of a device for which literally the ONLY purpose is to kill, an "overwhelming majority" still isn't enough.
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    Old 08-23-2016, 08:52 PM   #5346
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    What is the rage culture?

    I agree CK has the right to say whatever the fuck he wants. Just like I'm allowed to say he's sub-human for the "jokes" he makes. No free speech issue here.
    the thing that the media butters their bread with.

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    Old 08-23-2016, 08:57 PM   #5347
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    I'm sorry but for the acquisition of a device for which literally the ONLY purpose is to kill, an "overwhelming majority" still isn't enough.
    Well, that is not correct.

    In my experience, 98% of the firearms retailers at gun shows are federally licensed dealers and must conduct background checks.

    The other 2% are subject to state laws. Some states require background checks for all transactions, some have other requirements. NC for example, requires proof that a check has been done for all transfers of hand guns. All states make it illegal to sell firearms to people that you have reason to believe are prohibited from owning firearms.

    I eagerly await your statistics showing there is a problem concerning guns purchased without background checks from gun shows.
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    even if you purchase a gun fully with the intention of "just defending yourself", that still doesn't stop the thing's sole purpose to be to kill another living thing. Even if you're just a sport hunter, that's still and ONLY for killing (even an animal). A gun has no other ultimate purpose, so your pointing out of that is odd, but then who am I talking to.

    where a device exists whose sole purpose is this, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to want 100% of its licensed sales to be background checked.
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    Old 08-23-2016, 09:22 PM   #5349
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    even if you purchase a gun fully with the intention of "just defending yourself", that still doesn't stop the thing's sole purpose to be to kill another living thing. Even if you're just a sport hunter, that's still and ONLY for killing (even an animal). A gun has no other ultimate purpose, so your pointing out of that is odd, but then who am I talking to.

    where a device exists whose sole purpose is this, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to want 100% of its licensed sales to be background checked.
    background checking sling shots is gonna slow the whole process down. 12 year olds are crazy these days.

    a gun is nothing more than throwing a massive object down range to penetrate another object.

    i wonder if david was background checked to carry his weapon when he slayed goliath...?
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    even if you purchase a gun fully with the intention of "just defending yourself", that still doesn't stop the thing's sole purpose to be to kill another living thing. Even if you're just a sport hunter, that's still and ONLY for killing (even an animal). A gun has no other ultimate purpose, so your pointing out of that is odd, but then who am I talking to.

    where a device exists whose sole purpose is this, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to want 100% of its licensed sales to be background checked.
    Again. You're wrong.

    1) because there are guns built strictly for putting holes close together through paper/on steel
    2) 100% of licensed sales are already background checked
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    The NRA and gun shops want HRC to win as they will sell more guns
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    The NRA and gun shops want HRC to win as they will sell more guns
    Absolutely not.
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    The NRA and gun shops want HRC to win as they will sell more guns
    Pretty much. Just like after Sandy Hook when all the gun nuts thought Obama was coming for their guns
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    Absolutely not.
    So, you think they want to sell less guns?
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    So, you think they want to sell less guns?
    Gun shops want to sell guns. Gun shops do not want Hillary to be POTUS.

    Hillary being POTUS is not necessary for guns to sell.
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    The NRA and gun shops want HRC to win as they will sell more guns
    Yeah, I wouldn't go this far.
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    Hillary being POTUS is not necessary for guns to sell.
    But, you'd concede that it would help, right?
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    You think making fun of kids dying from Anaphylactic shock is "offensive"? Making racist jokes is offensive...making jokes about women cooking and cleaning is offensive. Making jokes about kids dying from food allergies and implying we should just let them die is sub-human.

    Honestly I could care less what comedians joke about. I realize being "offensive" is part of their job. I'm fine with that. All I said was that I didn't find it funny...then all you jackasses start attacking me. To each is own I guess, but at some point I'd think some of you would look in the fucking mirror and realize what you're defending.....
    We "attacked" you? Holy shit
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    background checking sling shots is gonna slow the whole process down. 12 year olds are crazy these days.

    a gun is nothing more than throwing a massive object down range to penetrate another object.

    i wonder if david was background checked to carry his weapon when he slayed goliath...?
    This is fucking stupid and I don't even agree with what Junior is saying
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    Ronald Reagan sucked. You'll get no argument from me on that.
    Who, then, is your favorite historical President that any candidate should hope to be?
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    Every president should try to be Teddy Roosevelt, or try to match the promise of Garfield.
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    yea Teddy easily best president
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    You think making fun of kids dying from Anaphylactic shock is "offensive"? Making racist jokes is offensive...making jokes about women cooking and cleaning is offensive. Making jokes about kids dying from food allergies and implying we should just let them die is sub-human.

    Honestly I could care less what comedians joke about. I realize being "offensive" is part of their job. I'm fine with that. All I said was that I didn't find it funny...then all you jackasses start attacking me. To each is own I guess, but at some point I'd think some of you would look in the fucking mirror and realize what you're defending.....
    Holy shit, seriously, what should a comedian talk about if everything is going to offend you? He makes fun of Jews too and as a Jew myself, I find it hilarious. Why? Because I know he doesn't mean any of it, he's just making funny observations about life.
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    I don't think I've ever actually been offended by a joke, but I will say if you are going to go the offensive route just make sure it's funny.

    there is nothing worse than offensive and not funny.
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    Teddy "Bernie Sanders" Roosevelt? Like Jeep kid would pick him.
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    yea Teddy easily best president
    Agreed, Teddy was great. Wasn't afraid to give a big middle finger to his party (like inviting the first black man to the White House as a guest) and pushed a progressive income tax and inheritance tax, and he wanted the wealthy and business to pay their fair share and regulations to prevent business from abusing employees and consumers.

    Then there was the whole thing of being shot and giving a speech. Badass dude.

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    Condi Rice backs Powell.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/22/ex...-colin-powell/

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    “Dr. Rice’s isn’t doing any media right now. I can tell you though that she has no recollection of that conversation either,” Godfrey told TheDC.
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    I don't think I've ever actually been offended by a joke, but I will say if you are going to go the offensive route just make sure it's funny.

    there is nothing worse than offensive and not funny.
    So, Bob Saget?
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    Old 08-24-2016, 05:25 AM   #5369
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    Bob Saget isn't really that offensive, just compared to Danny Tanner he is.

    he did direct Dirty Work though which is a great movie
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    The NRA and gun shops want HRC to win as they will sell more guns
    I'm not sure I'd say they WANT her to win but they'll use it to their advantage that's for sure.
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    Bob Saget isn't really that offensive, just compared to Danny Tanner he is
    I think this is very true. People think about his character on a very corny family-friendly show and then see him....being nothing like that.
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