So...Netflix just became self-aware?

[Proudest Bonzai]

Originally Posted by som3d3vil34

I could understand people still wanting the disc option because they want the Blu-ray quality. A lot of the streaming is good quality, but not up to par with Blu. Also, not everyone has great internet connection speeds and streaming might not work well with a lot of people.

I stream through my Wii which isn't hooked up via an HD cable. The content looks ok, but I much prefer to watch on BluRay or even a regular dvd. For this reason, the streaming-only option isn't really attractive to me. However, the quality of the discs + the convenience and immediacy of instant was a perfect combination. I guess I'll just look at it like a $6 price hike and forget about it, but it does kind of piss you off.

[ExistenceNow]

I'm done. I need the one disc for Blu-ray and streaming for random stuff. No fucking way I'm sticking around at the new price point.

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by dre2142

Absolutely disagree.....its greed fueling this.

Agree to disagree.

Netflix is causing the studios to lose money. The studios HAVE to raise prices for these contracts.

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by Beebz

I don't think the plan was the digitize their entire collection. It was to offer the same streaming service as they do now.

You have to remember, a lot of people don't have the technology or the know-how to do streaming only. Its a big paradigm shift, especially for adults. And I'd be against it because I'd have no access to BD content.



Hollywood studios are not losing money. Period. Any losses they've seen can be attributed to their terrible business practices -- namely, making shitty movies for too much money that no one wants to see.

You are out of your mind to think that studios arent losing money.

The combination of piracy and lack of people purchasing dvds and blu-rays are killing these studios.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by neumdogg

Agree to disagree.

Netflix is causing the studios to lose money. The studios HAVE to raise prices for these contracts.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but that's complete bullshit:

http://www.deadline.com/2010/08/disn...sted-earnings/

This is the most recent revenue rundown I could find -- it's from Q3 of 2010. Every single studio boosted their earnings, and that includes TV divisions, which are owned by the movie studios (or vice versa).

[DrewD55]

Originally Posted by neumdogg

Agree to disagree.

Netflix is causing the studios to lose money. The studios HAVE to raise prices for these contracts.

I agree with Beebz. Don't really see how Netflix is causing the studios to lose money; none of us know the terms of the contracts, but we can be sure that they're paying licensing fees for streaming and the cost of all of the DVDs. The only company I see that's been hurt by Netflix is Blockbuster, because people took to Netflix's original business model over Blockbuster's standard rentals.

[bigmonkeyfish]

Just received this email from Netflix.

Important Netflix Account Info: Price Change and New Plans:

We are separating unlimited DVDs by mail and unlimited streaming into two separate plans to better reflect the costs of each. Now our members have a choice: a streaming only plan, a DVD only plan, or both.

Your current $9.99 a month membership for unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs will be split into 2 distinct plans:

Plan 1: Unlimited Streaming (no DVDs) for $7.99 a month
Plan 2: Unlimited DVDs, 1 out at-a-time (no streaming) for $7.99 a month

Your price for getting both of these plans will be $15.98 a month ($7.99 + $7.99). You don't need to do anything to continue your memberships for both unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs.

These prices will start for charges on or after September 1, 2011.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by neumdogg

You are out of your mind to think that studios arent losing money.

The combination of piracy and lack of people purchasing dvds and blu-rays are killing these studios.

Again, bullshit. They are making piss poor movies for hundreds of millions of dollars. That and piracy are the only things hurting them.

Netflix isn't hurting Hollywood any more than Blockbuster did.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by bigmonkeyfish

Just received this email from Netflix.

Important Netflix Account Info: Price Change and New Plans:

We are separating unlimited DVDs by mail and unlimited streaming into two separate plans to better reflect the costs of each. Now our members have a choice: a streaming only plan, a DVD only plan, or both.

Your current $9.99 a month membership for unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs will be split into 2 distinct plans:

Plan 1: Unlimited Streaming (no DVDs) for $7.99 a month
Plan 2: Unlimited DVDs, 1 out at-a-time (no streaming) for $7.99 a month

Your price for getting both of these plans will be $15.98 a month ($7.99 + $7.99). You don't need to do anything to continue your memberships for both unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs.

These prices will start for charges on or after September 1, 2011.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by bigmonkeyfish

Just received this email from Netflix.

Important Netflix Account Info: Price Change and New Plans:

We are separating unlimited DVDs by mail and unlimited streaming into two separate plans to better reflect the costs of each. Now our members have a choice: a streaming only plan, a DVD only plan, or both.

Your current $9.99 a month membership for unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs will be split into 2 distinct plans:

Plan 1: Unlimited Streaming (no DVDs) for $7.99 a month
Plan 2: Unlimited DVDs, 1 out at-a-time (no streaming) for $7.99 a month

Your price for getting both of these plans will be $15.98 a month ($7.99 + $7.99). You don't need to do anything to continue your memberships for both unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs.

These prices will start for charges on or after September 1, 2011.

oh snap, new info. thanks brah!

[bigmonkeyfish]

Originally Posted by dre2142

oh snap, new info. thanks brah!

oh well should have read the thread.

[Styx Cover Band]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

I'm done. I need the one disc for Blu-ray and streaming for random stuff. No fucking way I'm sticking around at the new price point.

^ Yep same as me. I usually only get 2-3 Blu Rays a month from netflix and then stream tv shows I want to watch. But my internet connection at home is pretty shitty so I'm just going to drop Netflix completely and go to redbox when I need a movie

[Beebz]

Just received this telegram from my Pony Express rider:

APOLLO 11 LANDS MOON'S SURFACE! ARMSTRONG TOUCHES SURFACE!!!

[dre2142]

ive never done redbox......just swipe your card and you have 1 day rental?

[Arby]

Originally Posted by bigmonkeyfish

Just received this email from Netflix.

Important Netflix Account Info: Price Change and New Plans:

We are separating unlimited DVDs by mail and unlimited streaming into two separate plans to better reflect the costs of each. Now our members have a choice: a streaming only plan, a DVD only plan, or both.

Your current $9.99 a month membership for unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs will be split into 2 distinct plans:

Plan 1: Unlimited Streaming (no DVDs) for $7.99 a month
Plan 2: Unlimited DVDs, 1 out at-a-time (no streaming) for $7.99 a month

Your price for getting both of these plans will be $15.98 a month ($7.99 + $7.99). You don't need to do anything to continue your memberships for both unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs.

These prices will start for charges on or after September 1, 2011.

aka:

Dear valued customer,

Fuck you - we need more.

Love,

Netflix

[DrewD55]

Great line from the AV Club's note on the news: "It's sort of like the movie Sophie's Choice, which you won't be able to watch if you choose streaming only."

[GSUdawg521]

Originally Posted by som3d3vil34

EDIT: We should have an Ants Netflix streaming account. Divide it among like 10 people. Stick it to the man.

This is where it's at. I've done this with a few friends. Although I don't think 10 people would work. There's a limit on how many devices (TVs, computers, game consoles, phones) you can have active at once and it's somewhere around 4 or 5?

I'm on an account with a friend now who has like a couple hundred DVDs in her queue, so I wonder if she'll be pissed and cancel. I don't even really use it anymore though.

Originally Posted by dre2142

ive never done redbox......just swipe your card and you have 1 day rental?

Yeah, it's pretty legit, just that after a while it gets old. You can also reserve online. So find the movie you want at your nearest Redbox and it will hold it and charge your card when you do so. Then when you get there just swipe your card and it spits it out. $1 a day.

I hardly ever use it, but when I do, there are plenty of ways to get it for free. http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-codes/

You can use each of those codes once with every different credit card you (and anyone you might cohabitate with) might have

[GSUdawg521]

As I said, I rarely use Netflix these days. I had it for about exactly a year and I made decent use of the DVDs, but I also discovered a lot of shows, most of which were streaming. I thought it was like at least 3 seasons of Dexter back then, that sucks that it's none now. Also ALL of Weeds at the time. And I watched all of 24 for the second time.

I just got onto HBO GO and that's a pretty sweet method. Of course you're limited to just HBO's shows, but lots of good stuff there and all episodes and seasons of their shows (I saw some mentions of Entourage here, for example)

I'm pretty psyched about it

[hoke2007]

Fuck. This. Shit.


I thought the price hike a year ago was ridiculous. I'll end up staying with Netflix through this one in some capacity (currently have 2-DVDs out at a time), but if they increase the prices again in the near future, I'll be gone. I can't afford to keep paying more for the same selection.

I'd switch to streaming only in a heartbeat if their selection included a wider range of new releases and classics.

[ExistenceNow]

Fucking Time Warner hasn't signed on for HBO Go. Bastards.

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by DrewD55

I agree with Beebz. Don't really see how Netflix is causing the studios to lose money; none of us know the terms of the contracts, but we can be sure that they're paying licensing fees for streaming and the cost of all of the DVDs. The only company I see that's been hurt by Netflix is Blockbuster, because people took to Netflix's original business model over Blockbuster's standard rentals.

Its just not true. However, you can blame the studios for not anticipating something like streaming and mail rentals to be so big. They, in the end could be at fault. However, the studios are not making as much money as they used to....at least their earnings percentage wise arent increasing like they used to.

[Noles20]

Price increases happen. Not sure why people are so upset about a few bucks a month. If the service is no longer worth the price for you, just cancel. I think it's a bargain at the new price. It was a steal at the old price.

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Again, bullshit. They are making piss poor movies for hundreds of millions of dollars. That and piracy are the only things hurting them.

Netflix isn't hurting Hollywood any more than Blockbuster did.

you have to get away from the piss-poor movie argument.

The fact is, studios make most of their money off of home entertainment and merchandising. Box office is more about PR.

[Arby]

Originally Posted by Noles20

Price increases happen. Not sure why people are so upset about a few bucks a month. If the service is no longer worth the price for you, just cancel. I think it's a bargain at the new price. It was a steal at the old price.

Price increases do happen. But 60%?? That's a huge increase.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by hoke2007

I thought the price hike a year ago was ridiculous.

why?????????

[AlpineValley804]

Originally Posted by hoke2007

Fuck. This. Shit.


I thought the price hike a year ago was ridiculous. I'll end up staying with Netflix through this one in some capacity (currently have 2-DVDs out at a time), but if they increase the prices again in the near future, I'll be gone. I can't afford to keep paying more for the same selection.

I'd switch to streaming only in a heartbeat if their selection included a wider range of new releases and classics.

Yup. Same. I might be done with it on this one depending on if I can land a job. But even if I have a job in the scenario that they would increase the price again within the next year, Netflix can go fuck itself.

Seems like they're not finding smart ways to increase their revenue without actually raising prices. Why not offer a separate system for traveling either on hotels or airplanes? I understand there would be contracts involved in that too, but think about this idea. They can offer a good plan to frequent flyers and for vacationers who don't travel as often can pay a flat rate for each movie they watch - except they have the entire Netflix catalogue instead of the super limited options airplanes have now. Normal users can just use their account. As for hotels, basically the same kind of deal.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by neumdogg

you have to get away from the piss-poor movie argument.

The fact is, studios make most of their money off of home entertainment and merchandising. Box office is more about PR.

Where is the evidence showing that movie studios are losing money as a result of netflix. Shit, where the proof they're losing money at all? According to what I posted, profits are up?

[Noles20]

Originally Posted by som3d3vil34

Price increases do happen. But 60%?? That's a huge increase.

Mine goes from 14.99 to 19.99. That's not 60%.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by Noles20

Mine goes from 14.99 to 19.99. That's not 60%.

theyre factoring in the price increase that occured previously as well

[neumdogg]

Originally Posted by Beebz

Where is the evidence showing that movie studios are losing money as a result of netflix. Shit, where the proof they're losing money at all? According to what I posted, profits are up?

Considering that every studios home entertainment department has been completely decimated, I'd say they are losing money.

One example: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-10445834-261.html