Justice League Movies: Part One (2017) & Part Two (2019)

[MOWJO8185]

Oh wow. That's really sad.

[UCFish]

Man that is pretty awful...

[DMBZeppelin]

That's awful. I don't know how he went this long trying to work.

Weird that Wheadon was already adding scenes before Snyder even stepped down. Hopefully Snyder's vision is still fully realized.

[Tiduwho]

Really sad.

[M. Steng]

Jeeze, how sad. Can't even imagine dealing with that sort of loss and pain.

Wheedon of all people replaces him. Of course. As DMBZeppelin said, hopefully the full extent of Snyder's vision is retained throughout.

[DMBzilla]

I swear this whole thread is bizzaro world. Whedon is an accomplished director who had a hand in a ton of movies the majority actually liked.

Feel absolutely horrible for Snyder though. Can't even imagine.

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

That's awful. I don't know how he went this long trying to work.

Weird that Wheadon was already adding scenes before Snyder even stepped down. Hopefully Snyder's vision is still fully realized.

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Jeeze, how sad. Can't even imagine dealing with that sort of loss and pain.

Wheedon of all people replaces him. Of course. As DMBZeppelin said, hopefully the full extent of Snyder's vision is retained throughout.

I'm no fan of Whedon but if Snyder picked him then I hope he does a good job and the movie turns out ok. Mainly though I hope the Snyder family is ok.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by DMBzilla

I swear this whole thread is bizzaro world. Whedon is an accomplished director who had a hand in a ton of movies the majority actually liked.

Feel absolutely horrible for Snyder though. Can't even imagine.

Just not a fan of his style. He doesn't frame action sequences well and his style is very boring. More suited for TV. If he's just copying Snyder's style then I don't think it's much to worry about, I just hope his influence doesn't rub off too much on the movie.

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

I'm no fan of Whedon but if Snyder picked him then I hope he does a good job and the movie turns out ok. Mainly though I hope the Snyder family is ok.

Absolutely.

[DMBZeppelin]

Originally Posted by DMBzilla

I swear this whole thread is bizzaro world. Whedon is an accomplished director who had a hand in a ton of movies the majority actually liked.

Feel absolutely horrible for Snyder though. Can't even imagine.

I like Whedon just fine. I've never been against his Avengers work. Had he been the choice from the start then I'm sure it have been great. I just think their styles will clash too much, but hopefully I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

I'm no fan of Whedon but if Snyder picked him then I hope he does a good job and the movie turns out ok. Mainly though I hope the Snyder family is ok.

He picked him to write some additional scenes, but directing is a whole different ballgame. I wonder how obvious or seamless a Whedon scene will integrate into the movie.

[fridge112887]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/justi...ic-con-a152270

[TwoStep2888]

I'm interested to see what Wan's Aquaman movie will look like

[chadizzy1]

Positive reaction so far from an early screening of JL.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

Positive reaction so far from an early screening of JL.

and BvS got a standing ovation.....

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by Jake

and BvS got a standing ovation.....

Deservedly so!

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Deservedly so!

[Jake]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

Deservedly so!

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bat...wn_of_justice/


good job. good effort

[TwoStep2888]

I don't care about tomatoes, I have always been anti-tomato

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by Jake

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bat...wn_of_justice/


good job. good effort

63% audience score though.

No denying it was a divisive movie. I happened to love it while also recognizing its faults.

And if you base your opinions of anything (art, movies, music, etc.) on what critics have to say then you are a mental midget. I judge things on my own, I don't need some stuffy asshole reporter telling me what I should and shouldn't enjoy.

[UCFish]

I judged it on my own.

I thought the critics were way too nice.

Good to hear some positive stuff though! Hope it is good.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by UCFish

I judged it on my own.

I thought the critics were way too nice.

Aquaman! Missed you, bro. I notice that you saw the Batsignal and reported for duty accordingly. Welcome back into the mix, friend.

Looking forward to JL? A mere 8 weeks away now.

[MOWJO8185]

I'm excited for JLA! In Whedon we trust! Right guys?

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

I'm excited for JLA! In Whedon we trust! Right guys?

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

May not be far off I'm afraid.

[DMBZeppelin]

I hope this movie is good so some of the characters I care about can get solo movies.

I just worry if it bombs everyone will blame Whedon for changing so much.

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

I hope this movie is good so some of the characters I care about can get solo movies.

I just worry if it bombs everyone will blame Whedon for changing so much.

I don't think there's a high risk of this happening. If it bombs it's Snyder's fault. If it is a hit it's Whedon's intervention that saved the dour DCEU. Feel like that's the most bankable thing about the movie.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by sheldonlevene

I don't think there's a high risk of this happening. If it bombs it's Snyder's fault. If it is a hit it's Whedon's intervention that saved the dour DCEU. Feel like that's the most bankable thing about the movie.

Absolutely. Kev and I were actually discussing this very thing this morning.

I think it will be a fun movie, but it won't be deep or try to hit on the philosophy of superheroes like MoS and BvS did; which may be a welcome reprieve for some, but I personally love the approach Snyder took and tried to make more than a mindless popcorn flick. I have a feeling this will very much be like the first Avengers movie, but with DC characters. While that fact alone makes it inherently better than the Avengers in my eyes, I fear it will be a straightforward, linear, and easily digestible movie designed to appeal to and appease the masses.

On the one hand, that serves a benefit in that it will (hopefully) make it a financial success and will propel good spinoffs, solo movies, and sequels. The more DC movies, the better; I just don't want them to be like Marvel where there isn't any depth to them is all. But, the more complex something is, the less likely it is to be popular. As an avid DC reader for much of my life, I know the amazing, intricate, and deep stories these characters are capable of providing. Unfortunately I fear that going forward we are going to have bland, uninspired, and unoriginal stories that simply put asses in the seats and nothing more.

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by M. Steng

I was completely trolling you with that one.

In all honesty, like I said before, IF Whedon's comment about just improving the connective tissue between scenes and characterization while leaving major scenes/set pieces intact is true, then I'm very hopeful. I thought BvS contained some just amazing and striking individual scenes, and that it just lacked coherence in making those scenes work together as a whole that made sense or adequately addressed character motivation. Whedon is pretty good at that, so if the comments are true, it seems like a combination of what each director does best to me.

[M. Steng]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

I was completely trolling you with that one.

In all honesty, like I said before, IF Whedon's comment about just improving the connective tissue between scenes and characterization while leaving major scenes/set pieces intact is true, then I'm very hopeful. I thought BvS contained some just amazing and striking individual scenes, and that it just lacked coherence in making those scenes work together as a whole that made sense or adequately addressed character motivation. Whedon is pretty good at that, so if the comments are true, it seems like a combination of what each director does best to me.

Oh, I know. Doesn't mean I can't respond genuinely, though

The thing sheldon raised above is legitimate though. Snyder is in a no-win situation here, and I honestly feel bad for him. All the reports are so hard to trust these days, as well. So to the extent that Whedon is only working on "connective tissue" or that there were "massive scene rewrites" as also previously reported, just the amount of news coming out of this film's development, production, and post-production makes it harder and harder for me to get excited. Whedon's involvement took a lot of wind out of my sails.

[MOWJO8185]

Yeah I think it's a legit point. Snyder will 100% be the scapegoat if it goes bad.

I too hope it's not all Whedon quips and has some of the gravitas and depth Snyder was going for in BvS. I just also hope if it does, it's executed much better. I think that the knock Whedon gets for being rather lighthearted is somewhat earned when looking at his box office career, but his TV career, when he has more time to flesh out characters and truly explore deeper issues in a framework that isn't 2 hours, speaks otherwise to me. If the depth was already there from Snyder, I think Whedon has the potential to leave it in place but make it make more sense (although yes, there will also be quips).

[MOWJO8185]

Also, the latest rumor that Whedon may have cut Eisenberg's Luthor from the film has me more excited about its prospects than anything else I've read yet!!