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Old 05-19-2012, 06:25 PM   #61
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Re: Mercy and Gaucho are really bad songs...

I love Gaucho, and Mercy is a 7/10 or so, I'd say. But Gaucho is the first song in a long while that's legitimately IMPRESSED me... if Dave's writing interesting guitar parts again, this album will be goooood.

As for those with the 'overly political' lyrics complaint: I couldn't disagree with you more. Mercy has lyrics that seem heavily influenced by the death of leroi and I think it's an introspective of the uncertain future of the band. As for Gaucho, I haven't listened to it enough to understand the song lyrically... but to look at the phrase "change the world" and not like it or politicize it, is just stupid.
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    Re: Mercy and Gaucho are really bad songs...

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    I disagree 1000%. Both songs are better than anything from Big Whiskey. Lyrically, they are decent. But musically, they are outstanding.
    When did it become possible to disagree more than 100%? I was on board with your point, but gotta work on that math.

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    Old 05-19-2012, 06:52 PM   #63
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    Gaucho > Mercy (Full Band) > Mercy (acoustic)

    only of that list I would say is bad is acoustic mercy. very boring to me. full band its different. wish the piano part would move a bit more, however
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    Old 05-19-2012, 07:30 PM   #64
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    Re: Mercy and Gaucho are really bad songs...

    Mercy is boring as hell. i'll skip it every time once the album comes out. i didn't think they could come up with a song that moves me less than You and Me, unfortunately they've succeeded.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 07:38 PM   #65
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    no. they're not the best, but by no means are they bad songs.

    mercy isnt great but i really like what they did with it full band and i only think it'll get better. gaucho has some GREAT music - i think its daves second best riff in the last decade (shotgun being the best) and while the lyrics aren't big 3 quality, they are still pretty good
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    Old 05-19-2012, 08:25 PM   #66
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    no. they're not the best, but by no means are they bad songs.

    mercy isnt great but i really like what they did with it full band and i only think it'll get better. gaucho has some GREAT music - i think its daves second best riff in the last decade (shotgun being the best) and while the lyrics aren't big 3 quality, they are still pretty good
    Agree, agree, agree. 8 seconds into the free download last night and I already knew I liked Gaucho, and as a musician myself I LOVE the use of the horns. It's been a little over 24 hours and a few listens, and it's already stuck in my head.

    As far as Mercy, best song ever? Absolutely not. Listened to the Jimmy Fallon mp3 multiple times since the show aired? Definitely. I also agree with whoever posted that they aren't going to give away their best song for free, but if Gaucho is any indication, I am very, very, hopeful and excited for the rest of the album.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 09:52 PM   #67
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    I'm with you. This album will probably turn out as a hybrid of Stand Up and Big Whiskey. So tired of the politically-driven lyrics. Where's the Seek Up? Warehouse? The Stone?
    I wouldn't sweat it just yet. Songs like those are the meat of the album and if they exist on this record they will more than likely come out later. I think those songs being played now merely reflects that 1. they are the more radio friendly songs and 2. they do fit into the fact that the election is coming up.

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    Old 05-19-2012, 10:02 PM   #68
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    Im gaining hope for the album and the 2012 tour in general after youtubing a few vids from TX.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 10:18 PM   #69
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    Re: Mercy and Gaucho are really bad songs...

    People who are saying "Dave is too political" on these songs are forgetting that by choosing to interpret it like that, they themselves are being political. No one REALLY knows what the songs are about... maybe not even Dave himself.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 10:19 PM   #70
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    Re: Mercy and Gaucho are really bad songs...

    First 3 BW songs were Funny, Spaceman, Why I Am. Howd you feel about them? I think Mercy and Gaucho are more quality songs than all 3 of those. I enjoyed spaceman the most out of the 3 when I first heard it, loved carter. These songs are so new, to say you hate them already is ridiculous in my opinion.

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    Old 05-19-2012, 10:21 PM   #71
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    First 3 BW songs were Funny, Spaceman, Why I Am. Howd you feel about them? I think Mercy and Gaucho are more quality songs than all 3 of those. I enjoyed spaceman the most out of the 3 when I first heard it, loved carter. These songs are so new, to say you hate them already is ridiculous in my opinion.
    Exactly how I feel.
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    I'm with you. This album will probably turn out as a hybrid of Stand Up and Big Whiskey. So tired of the politically-driven lyrics. Where's the Seek Up? Warehouse? The Stone?

    I've been a die hard fan since '94. I do and will always support the band but I'm ready for something to be proud about. My hopes were an album with Sugar Will, Shotgun, Blackjack, Crazy Easy, and Monkey Man...well, life goes on
    Does Gaucho not run along the same vein as Seek Up lyrics-wise?
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    Old 05-19-2012, 10:35 PM   #73
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    Ohhhh Reginald!....

    I disagree!
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    Old 05-19-2012, 10:47 PM   #74
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    First 3 BW songs were Funny, Spaceman, Why I Am. Howd you feel about them? I think Mercy and Gaucho are more quality songs than all 3 of those. I enjoyed spaceman the most out of the 3 when I first heard it, loved carter. These songs are so new, to say you hate them already is ridiculous in my opinion.

    Also wanted to throw this in here
    After listening to tonight's recordings I am putting Mercy on a level with LITHOG and Gaucho with Squirm. So yeah, I think they are both pretty good compared to certain BW material.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 11:11 PM   #75
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    Songs are both terrible. Only reason I'll listen to the album is Lillywhite.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 11:14 PM   #76
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    Songs are both terrible. Only reason I'll listen to the album is Lillywhite.
    I don't know how you can say Gaucho is terrible. Musically, it's fantastic, old school DMB. The lyrics in the verses are great. The "man on the moon" part is good. The chorus, not so much.

    And musically, Mercy sounded pretty great last night, even with super corny political lyrics.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 11:15 PM   #77
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    I don't know how you can say Gaucho is terrible. Musically, it's fantastic, old school DMB. The lyrics in the verses are great. The "man on the moon" part is good. The chorus, not so much.

    And musically, Mercy sounded pretty great last night, even with super corny political lyrics.
    I disagree. It's obviously not BW or Stand Up, but this song MUSICALLY could be on Busted Stuff or maybe UTTAD. It'd be the worst song on either, but it wouldn't be horrible.
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    I disagree. It's obviously not BW or Stand Up, but this song MUSICALLY could be on Busted Stuff or maybe UTTAD. It'd be the worst song on either, but it wouldn't be horrible.
    So it could be on two old school DMB albums, but it's not old school DMB. Got it.
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    I disagree. It's obviously not BW or Stand Up, but this song MUSICALLY could be on Busted Stuff or maybe UTTAD. It'd be the worst song on either, but it wouldn't be horrible.
    Is UTTAD so old that it's old old school?
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    I thought Mercy sounded terrific full band. Really like it a lot.
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    have fun bitching about the new album. It seems like everyone else really likes them
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    Old 05-20-2012, 12:08 AM   #82
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    I guess to each their own, but I don't know how anyone can say they're "turrible"
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    I went to the show last night at Woodlands and was a bit disappointed. I felt like each time they prepared to play the next song, I held my breath and then exhaled without the excitement and enthusiasm I used to feel. Where's the Warehouse? Where's Too Much? Where's Typical Situation? Where's the oldies and goodies? DMB used to lift my spirits. They still did. It just lacked a little something.
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    I still think Sweet Up and Down could make this album, especially with the 2010 lyrics
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    thats like your opinion, man
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    Old 05-20-2012, 05:52 AM   #86
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    Much better than that BW crap minus baby blue
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    No they're pretty good! Mercy is beautiful and Gaucho is a musical monster!
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    Much better than that BW crap minus baby blue
    Easy, there. Not a hater of Mercy and Gaucho, but-

    Squirm
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    All have better chorus lines than Gaucho. And Gaucho's is pretty much on par with You & Me's.

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    I don't know how you can say Gaucho is terrible. Musically, it's fantastic, old school DMB. The lyrics in the verses are great. The "man on the moon" part is good. The chorus, not so much.
    I agree with this. I think it's the best thing the band has produced musically, in years.
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