BWGK - No Sales Last Power

[Upstge]

You and Me is ideal to cross over. Shake Me is ideal to just get the rock crowd pumped about the band. Those two should be singles if RCA has any sense.

[solsburyhill]

Originally Posted by bbianca1982

Its because their songs are cross-format. That Use Somebody song is on lite rock for fuck's sake.

You and Me has the best chance of really having the album take off again. Its the perfect cross-format song.

That's a great point.

[Upstge]

If for nothing else, Shake Me should be a single just to see what the video would look like....

[DJGeneral]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

I think it's looking like this right now, for the 5 albums nominated.

Swift
U2
Bruce
DMB
Eminem

Green Day could sneak in there though.

Green Day, DMB, U2, Bruce = only one of them will make it. MAYBE two but don't forget they need to award other genres.

1. hip hip/rap album
2. grammy old timer favorite
3. popular album
4. rock album
5. country album

DMB are not hip hop. they are not grammy old timers and they are not country. They are also not popular in the sense of Britney Spears. They can only get the rock album slot.

Bruce could get GRammy old time slot or the rock slot. Same for U2.

And keep in mind popular means like BIGGEST selling albums of the year. Bruce did not sell that well. U2 is around 950K right now and Green Day is around 800K.

[TMoore4075]

I rarely listen to real radio anymore but when I do I NEVER hear FTWII on the radio. I've heard it twice since it came out both on one station. While on xm I hear it all the time. Just not getting the play from some Detroit stations.

[jkrue22]

Just to give you guys an idea of how well FTWII is doing at bringing in new listeners: my sheltered, homeschooled nephews and nieces (ages 9-13) absolutely love the song (especially the bridge) and were really excited for me to show them the video. I think they've heard it a bunch on XM. A new generation in the making.

Also it's been played twice in the last few hours on the local Boston station (WBOS), along with Billies and Ants.

[SpecialAgent007]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

That is not true at all. Plenty albums stay on for countless weeks.

These are albums that have spent at least one year on the charts, (countless others have spent 20+ 30+ 40+ weeks.)


141 Taylor Swift
137 Daughtry
91 Kid Rock
89 Carrie Underwood
88 Seether
70 Alan Jackson
70 MGMT
66 Theory of a Deadman
66 George Strait
64 Lady Antebellum

63 Saving Abel
61 Toby Keith
60 Jason Mraz
60 Frank Sinatra
58 Jack Johnson
58 Doors Down
57 Disturbed
56 Adele
56 Lil' Wayne
55 Katy Perry

55 Coldplay
54 Shinedown
52 Mamma Mia Soundtrack

My girl Taylor Swift knows how to get it done. She's the best pop-songwriter in the business right now. Her numbers are absolutely no mistake.

[SpecialAgent007]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

I think it's looking like this right now, for the 5 albums nominated.

Swift
U2
Bruce
DMB
Eminem

Green Day could sneak in there though.

Taylor Swift will win and should win for "Fearless." It's one of the best pop albums to come out in a long time. Every song on it really could be a single.

[Thamlin19]

You & Me will cause a big spike in sales. I had a friend talk to me last night who I didn't know listened to any DMB and was gushing about how amazing of a song it is. Regardless of if you agree with her interpretation, many others will and that's all that matters with album sales.

[DIDriveOut2SPAC]

I have heard Funny, Why I Am and Shake Me on the radio already. Not You and ME.

[DJGeneral]

I am excited for Y&M to be released because we will get an official edit with #35 not on it.

[Beebz]

Originally Posted by SpecialAgent007

My girl Taylor Swift knows how to get it done. She's the best pop-songwriter in the business right now. Her numbers are absolutely no mistake.

She's a country singer who writes one-dimensional pop songs. The best move her manager ever made was marketing her as a country star, because its a guaranteed loyal fanbase who somehow fails to notice that she's nothing but a generic top-40 artist.

I dont dislike her, but she certainly isn't country and really needs to expand her subject matter. If she wasnt a "country" artist no one would have ever heard of her.

[Swizz2007]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

I am excited for Y&M to be released because we will get an official edit with #35 not on it.

I used Audacity and separated the two into two different tracks...You & Me is 4:20 and #35 is 0:49.

[SpecialAgent007]

Originally Posted by bbianca1982

She's a country singer who writes one-dimensional pop songs. The best move her manager ever made was marketing her as a country star, because its a guaranteed loyal fanbase who somehow fails to notice that she's nothing but a generic top-40 artist.

I dont dislike her, but she certainly isn't country and really needs to expand her subject matter. If she wasnt a "country" artist no one would have ever heard of her.

I respectfully disagree with you immensely. She's one of the most talented and prolific artists pop music in general has seen in years. She'll be a star for life if she wants to be. Do you realize half her material thus far was written before she turned 16? And she had a publishing deal before she was 16 and before she had a recording contract? She has IMMENSE talent that is only going to continue to expand as she grows in age and artistry and has more diverse experiences. Hell, she wrote "Our Song," an incredibly potent song done via country or straight pop (and a song that would go #1 either way really) when she was 13.

She's the real thing.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by SpecialAgent007

Taylor Swift will win and should win for "Fearless." It's one of the best pop albums to come out in a long time. Every song on it really could be a single.

She won't win, but she probably should.

I think U2 ends up getting it again.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

Green Day, DMB, U2, Bruce = only one of them will make it. MAYBE two but don't forget they need to award other genres.

1. hip hip/rap album
2. grammy old timer favorite
3. popular album
4. rock album
5. country album

DMB are not hip hop. they are not grammy old timers and they are not country. They are also not popular in the sense of Britney Spears. They can only get the rock album slot.

Bruce could get GRammy old time slot or the rock slot. Same for U2.

And keep in mind popular means like BIGGEST selling albums of the year. Bruce did not sell that well. U2 is around 950K right now and Green Day is around 800K.

Trust me, they will find a way to nominate 3 if they want to. The old timer favorite will probably be U2 over Bruce (who I predict will win, because it's U2). I think after last years fuck up, and the slack they caught for it, that DMB will get a nomination. Not saying it's a sure thing though.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by SpecialAgent007

I respectfully disagree with you immensely. She's one of the most talented and prolific artists pop music in general has seen in years. She'll be a star for life if she wants to be. Do you realize half her material thus far was written before she turned 16? And she had a publishing deal before she was 16 and before she had a recording contract? She has IMMENSE talent that is only going to continue to expand as she grows in age and artistry and has more diverse experiences. Hell, she wrote "Our Song," an incredibly potent song done via country or straight pop (and a song that would go #1 either way really) when she was 13.

She's the real thing.

To be fair, we all thought the same thing about Norah Jones, and she fell off. Young women pop artists that write their music, they usually run into snags; and some of that is aging and how jaded or a desire to have more "artistic integrity" whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

I do agree that it should win Best Album, but it probably won't.

[DJGeneral]

Originally Posted by Swizz2007

I used Audacity and separated the two into two different tracks...You & Me is 4:20 and #35 is 0:49.

i know, i can do that as well. but it will be nice for an official edikt.

[DJGeneral]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

Trust me, they will find a way to nominate 3 if they want to. The old timer favorite will probably be U2 over Bruce (who I predict will win, because it's U2). I think after last years fuck up, and the slack they caught for it, that DMB will get a nomination. Not saying it's a sure thing though.

There is no way Bruce, U2, and DMB will all get AOTY. Not happening.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

There is no way Bruce, U2, and DMB will all get AOTY. Not happening.

Then it's either DMB or Bruce that gets screwed...and I'm lookin' at DMB really.

U2 has this thing in the bag.

[DJGeneral]

I think DMB will overpower Bruce, but I agree, U2 has it for sure. But then again, who really knows.

I think we could see

Taylor Swift
Dave Matthews Band
U2
Kanye West
Not sure about the 5th spot

[BotheLaneFan]

Actually, now what I think it will be after forgetting someone.

Swift
Peas
U2
DMB/Bruce
Eminem

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

I think DMB will overpower Bruce, but I agree, U2 has it for sure. But then again, who really knows.

I think we could see

Taylor Swift
Dave Matthews Band
U2
Kanye West
Not sure about the 5th spot

West over Eminem AND Black Eyed Peas?

[DJGeneral]

BEP stand 0% chance at being nominated.

Eminem is a contender for sure. It will either be Kanye or Eminem, but I think Kanye will take it, although I'd rather Eminem.

[DJGeneral]

Latest sales
8 RCA 19 25 21 MATTHEWS*DAVE BAND BIG WHISKEY & THE GROOGRUX KIN 17,714 -7 19,124 777,455

Not that bad this week. Being more stable. we need a big hit though!

And here to compare U2:

21 INT 93 76 76 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 5,552 -5 5,819 960,053

[SpecialAgent007]

Originally Posted by bothedmbfan

To be fair, we all thought the same thing about Norah Jones, and she fell off. Young women pop artists that write their music, they usually run into snags; and some of that is aging and how jaded or a desire to have more "artistic integrity" whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

I do agree that it should win Best Album, but it probably won't.

But Norah Jones isn't half the writer Swift is. She didn't even pen her biggest song. Her 3rd album that dropped a year or two ago was the first in which she wrote or co-wrote all the songs. Simply put, she's just not the songwriter Swift is who had a publishing deal before she had a recording deal before the age of 16. I think Norah still is a great artist but she just can't sell like Swift. Swift can reach everyone. She's got the country people, the pop people, the guys, the girls, adults, kids, moms, her peers. There's a reason she's one of the few (only?) people still selling albums like it's the 90's.

Personally I never thought Norah Jones would run away with the star-power for that long. Her style of music ultimately just isn't as accessible enough. She's still just a little more lounge-driven. I respect her and enjoy her music, but I wasn't surprised by her inability to create the same kind of success again. But she still might at some point again get some mass-spotlight action back. And it's not as if she's been wholly unsuccessful since her debut either. She's still sold a lot of albums.

Oh, and DMB at 777,000. U2 at 900,000something...

Taylor Swift is 3,500,000+ and still charting strong.

[SpecialAgent007]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

Latest sales
8 RCA 19 25 21 MATTHEWS*DAVE BAND BIG WHISKEY & THE GROOGRUX KIN 17,714 -7 19,124 777,455

Not that bad this week. Being more stable. we need a big hit though!

And here to compare U2:

21 INT 93 76 76 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 5,552 -5 5,819 960,053

It's amazing to me that at 30 weeks Taylor Swift has 3,500,000 and at 21 U2 still hasn't hit a million. That's mind-boggling to me. It just goes to show you just how far Swifts reach is right now.

[DJGeneral]

Swift is awesome. I bought that album. Fantastic.

[davetripping02]

Originally Posted by DJGeneral

Swift is awesome. I bought that album. Fantastic.

does she actually write her songs?

[SpecialAgent007]

Originally Posted by davetripping02

does she actually write her songs?

Yes. She writes or co-writes all her songs. Majority are written by her alone. Again, one of her biggest songs, "Our Song," was written when she was 13. And again, she had a publishing deal before she even had a recording contract. As in, she wrote songs that other artists on major labels might use. This was before she turned 16. She didn't want to surrender artistic control so she refused to sign a deal with a major label and signed on with an upstart label with a staff of like 1 person so she could do her music the way she wanted to. Her and her parents were stuffing radio promo CD's themselves when she was first trying to get out there. She actually wrote her song "Change" about being on an upstart label and the trials that ensue but rising above. It's not a favorite of mine, probably my least favorite from "Fearless," but still, just thought it was interesting to note.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_(Taylor_Swift_song)