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Old 08-25-2015, 12:56 PM   #31
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Not on any that have substantial sax parts. Its easier to illustrate how superior Roi is by naming songs that the Jeff/Rashawn horn combo has changed the most, such as:

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Billies
OSW
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Rapunzel

The one song that is really different without Roi, and isn't necessarily worse, is Rhyme & Reason.

Of course, this is all my opinion.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I do enjoy Roi's work more as a rule. I just also enjoy what Jeff brings in a different way. Their individual styles both bring unique flavor to the catalog. I enjoy each in different songs for different reasons.
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    Live Trax 20......
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    Old 08-25-2015, 03:03 PM   #33
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    Nothing beats RR95 sorry OP.
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    Old 08-25-2015, 03:04 PM   #34
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    The Lovely Ladies have played on BOWA 21 times, so there are 367 versions that are better.
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    Old 08-25-2015, 06:30 PM   #35
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    Can you find Jeff's work to be equally enjoyable to Roi's on any songs?
    No. But he's been better, and he can do even more if Rashawn leaves.

    Its hard for people who got into the band because of Roi to think Jeff does as good a job.
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    I had to look b/c I figured it hasn't even been played 200 times. Still criminally underplayed at 388.
    Cornbread 264 plays Debut 2007
    Seven 210 plays Debut 2009
    Funny the Way It Is 216 plays Debut 2009
    You and Me 242 plays Debut 2009
    Shit Me Like a Monkey 230 plays Debut 2009


    Imagine if 2011 was a regular touring year, the above #'s would be worse.

    Now what should be in their place.

    Spoon 52 total plays Debut 1997
    You Never Know 86 total plays Debut 2002
    Dreaming Tree 95 total plays Debut 1998
    Last Stop 103 total plays Debut 1998
    Cry Freedom 168 total plays Debut 1991

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    No. But he's been better, and he can do even more if Rashawn leaves.

    Its hard for people who got into the band because of Roi to think Jeff does as good a job.
    Good God you are such a clown. NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, on this website got into this band because of Leroi Moore. You've got to be effin kidding me... Dave is the reason. Period.

    Yes, of course the band is better with Roi than without but to say he doesn't do any songs better is also erroneous. There are several examples. The Stone is one that immediately comes to mind.
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    Good God you are such a clown. NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, on this website got into this band because of Leroi Moore. You've got to be effin kidding me... Dave is the reason. Period.

    Yes, of course the band is better with Roi than without but to say he doesn't do any songs better is also erroneous. There are several examples. The Stone is one that immediately comes to mind.
    Im a clown because Roi was a reason i got into the band? Dave was a big part of it, but also Leroi because i loved the saxophone. I played it for many years as a kid, and i really loved his sound. I don't expect you to understand since you're such a noob.

    But do me a favor and put me on block. You clearly get rattled whenever i post something you don't agree with. If you're gonna call me out and tell me what you think got me into the band without even knowing me then you clearly have some sort of issue with me, that is beyond strange. Block me, freak.

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    Old 08-25-2015, 08:27 PM   #39
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    Good God you are such a clown. NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, on this website got into this band because of Leroi Moore. You've got to be effin kidding me... Dave is the reason. Period.

    Yes, of course the band is better with Roi than without but to say he doesn't do any songs better is also erroneous. There are several examples. The Stone is one that immediately comes to mind.
    I think Nick's statement could be applied to any of the 5 original members. I don't think he was talking about people who got into the band solely because of Roi, but that he was a big factor. He could've said the same thing about Carter or Boyd if someone with a different style took their place.
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    Good God you are such a clown. NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, on this website got into this band because of Leroi Moore. You've got to be effin kidding me... Dave is the reason. Period.

    Yes, of course the band is better with Roi than without but to say he doesn't do any songs better is also erroneous. There are several examples. The Stone is one that immediately comes to mind.

    Roi, Carter and Dave are what mainly got me into this band. Your post was pretty goddamn stupid, man.
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    Old 08-25-2015, 10:37 PM   #42
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    Roi was awesome, but for me, the main three who got me into this band way back when were Dave, Carter, and Boyd. Probably more Carter and Boyd than Dave.
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    Best ever is Live Trax 2. Best of 2015 was Dallas... This is not in the running for anything.
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    Im a clown because Roi was a reason i got into the band? Dave was a big part of it, but also Leroi because i loved the saxophone. I played it for many years as a kid, and i really loved his sound. I don't expect you to understand since you're such a noob.

    But do me a favor and put me on block. You clearly get rattled whenever i post something you don't agree with. If you're gonna call me out and tell me what you think got me into the band without even knowing me then you clearly have some sort of issue with me, that is beyond strange. Block me, freak.
    This. Cobo apparently has a bravado over being out in the open about his man crush on Dave. And they already have something in common, awful taste in DMB songs. Go rock out to some of your favorite old jams, like Stand Up, brah.
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    Im a clown because Roi was a reason i got into the band? Dave was a big part of it, but also Leroi because i loved the saxophone. I played it for many years as a kid, and i really loved his sound. I don't expect you to understand since you're such a noob.

    But do me a favor and put me on block. You clearly get rattled whenever i post something you don't agree with. If you're gonna call me out and tell me what you think got me into the band without even knowing me then you clearly have some sort of issue with me, that is beyond strange. Block me, freak.
    I'll lay out what my definition of a "freak" is:

    1. Someone who is 30 years old and still has the word "noob" in his vocabulary.
    2a. Someone who has 66,306 posts on an internet message board in 13 years (=5,100 per year, = 14 per day...)
    2b. On a band's website where no interest remains in seeing the actual band in it's current format.
    2c. Most posts are negative and insulting towards the band and other poster's on the forum.
    3. Someone who has the grammatical and spelling capability of a middle school child.

    There's plenty of more but I'm done wasting my time.
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    I think Nick's statement could be applied to any of the 5 original members. I don't think he was talking about people who got into the band solely because of Roi, but that he was a big factor. He could've said the same thing about Carter or Boyd if someone with a different style took their place.
    Thank you for making the one post on page two worth responding to. I absolutely agree. Individuals in the band, other than the front man, can definitely factor into it. Maybe this is what he meant but his childish post did not come across in this way.

    For example, Carter is probably my favorite member right now. But to say the first time I heard Crash Into Me on the radio I was like "Oh, forget about the lyrics, riff, melody, and beauty these musicians are laying out, those drum fills are tight, I've got to go check this band solely because of this drumming style" is funny to think about!
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    I'll lay out what my definition of a "freak" is:

    1. Someone who is 30 years old and still has the word "noob" in his vocabulary.
    2a. Someone who has 66,306 posts on an internet message board in 13 years (=5,100 per year, = 14 per day...)
    2b. On a band's website where no interest remains in seeing the actual band in it's current format.
    2c. Most posts are negative and insulting towards the band and other poster's on the forum.
    3. Someone who has the grammatical and spelling capability of a middle school child.

    There's plenty of more but I'm done wasting my time.

    So 3 applies to you then? "There's plenty of more"
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    Alpine Valley 7/6/2012 is up there.
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    Thank you for making the one post on page two worth responding to. I absolutely agree. Individuals in the band, other than the front man, can definitely factor into it. Maybe this is what he meant but his childish post did not come across in this way.

    For example, Carter is probably my favorite member right now. But to say the first time I heard Crash Into Me on the radio I was like "Oh, forget about the lyrics, riff, melody, and beauty these musicians are laying out, those drum fills are tight, I've got to go check this band solely because of this drumming style" is funny to think about!
    Carter is what got me interested in the band... really couldn't stand Dave's voice at first. Satellite was brutal to my ears. But the way Carter played was just awesome.
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    Particularly interested in opinions of those that have listened to this version. It's legit.
    I have. The Ladies are fucking awful.
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    Alpine Valley 7/6/2012 is up there.
    that solo was incredible... i remember that one

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    Good God you are such a clown. NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, on this website got into this band because of Leroi Moore. You've got to be effin kidding me... Dave is the reason. Period.

    Yes, of course the band is better with Roi than without but to say he doesn't do any songs better is also erroneous. There are several examples. The Stone is one that immediately comes to mind.
    Hey!!!! That's over the line! I want you to take back what you just said to crashintonick right now! He's not a clown, YOU'RE a clown! And an asshole!
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    I'll lay out what my definition of a "freak" is:

    1. Someone who is 30 years old and still has the word "noob" in his vocabulary.
    2a. Someone who has 66,306 posts on an internet message board in 13 years (=5,100 per year, = 14 per day...)
    2b. On a band's website where no interest remains in seeing the actual band in it's current format.
    2c. Most posts are negative and insulting towards the band and other poster's on the forum.
    3. Someone who has the grammatical and spelling capability of a middle school child.

    There's plenty of more but I'm done wasting my time.
    you're an asshole. crashintonick is a legend around here. take it back!
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    Good God you are such a clown. NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, on this website got into this band because of Leroi Moore. You've got to be effin kidding me... Dave is the reason. Period.

    Yes, of course the band is better with Roi than without but to say he doesn't do any songs better is also erroneous. There are several examples. The Stone is one that immediately comes to mind.
    Uh, I was a sax player in elementary school when I discovered my sisters dmb tapes, and Roi was absolutely the reason I fell in love with this band
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    this thread is great.

    Ants still delivers so hard.
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    Very solid melt from Cobo. Been a while since we've had one like this. 9/10
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    Good God you are such a clown. NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, on this website got into this band because of Leroi Moore. You've got to be effin kidding me... Dave is the reason. Period.

    Yes, of course the band is better with Roi than without but to say he doesn't do any songs better is also erroneous. There are several examples. The Stone is one that immediately comes to mind.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzH4BtGcmTs
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    My favorite TBOWA of all time is live Trax 17. Very underrated version.
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    Nothing beats RR95 sorry OP.
    This is the correct answer, and it's embarrassing that it took a page and a half before someone mentioned it.
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    ive only heard bowa with he ladies once, and its my least favorite version. I will take bowa however i can get it but man, the LL add NOTHING to a song that needs no additions to begin with!
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