ESPN layoffs commence today

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

I know Twitter is the barometer (I guess?) with my generation, but it blows my mind how hard companies such as ESPN bend over backwards to clearly appeal to a race that makes up like 13% of the population. Is it white guilt? Probably, but I think older people just assume everyone under 30 acts the same. Reminds me of r/fellowkids.

SC6 is clearly a black, hip hop themed show. How is that going to attract anyone over 30 and not black? Fwiw, I love Gucci and Outkast so it's not like I'm some honky who just listens to Kenny G. It's like if you had a sports show that's hippie themed with Steal Your Faces and Dead lyrics everywhere That appeals to like 2% of the population.


They have gone so far left they are parading their white guilt like it's nothing.

I mean it's nothing more than numbers I'm sure. Those were probably the only people still watching so they curtailed to them.


No need to make it a race issue. It's just the direction they went. It's not white guilt. That's the biggest load of bullshit that's gets spewed across many platforms.

[rickyh24]

What will she call Gordon Hayward if he decides to stick with the Jazz?

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Jemelle Hill firing back at Boston radio host

http://brobible.com/sports/article/j...k-boston-host/

If I was a "celebrity" I would NEVER call into a Boston/New York/Philly sports radio show and confront the host. They don't give a fucking shit about anything

[CrashTheStone41]

Anybody know if Jessica Mendoza has been canned? She is ruining Sunday Night Baseball for me

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

I mean it's nothing more than numbers I'm sure. Those were probably the only people still watching so they curtailed to them.


No need to make it a race issue. It's just the direction they went. It's not white guilt. That's the biggest load of bullshit that's gets spewed across many platforms.

I'm not being racial or anything it's just true. She did the fucking black power fist in the commerical promoting it This is America I don't give a shit what you say or do on TV. It's dog shit television and yeah it's definitely white guilt. ESPN is too left wing not to be. That's where their SJW boner gets the hardest.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

If I was a "celebrity" I would NEVER call into a Boston/New York/Philly sports radio show and confront the host. They don't give a fucking shit about anything

Once you compare rooting for a Boston team to rooting for Hitler it's probably not a great career move to call in to a Boston station. I get why she's not calling in but she shouldn't be playing the "say it to my face" card on twitter with a Boston sports radio host. When all he has to say is "well call the show". It just makes her look even worse.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by CrashTheStone41

Anybody know if Jessica Mendoza has been canned? She is ruining Sunday Night Baseball for me

She's bad. She acts like she won the lottery when doing the job (which she kind of did)


Looks like Marc Stein and Chad Ford also out....

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Once you compare rooting for a Boston team to rooting for Hitler it's probably not a great career move to call in to a Boston station. I get why she's not calling in but she shouldn't be playing the "say it to my face" card on twitter with a Boston sports radio host. When all he has to say is "well call the show". It just makes her look even worse.

Exactly. Why should he say it to her face? Is she going to fight him or something? lol

[kydmb99]

Chad Ford also let go. Wow. ESPN just getting rid of "non-personalities"

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

Exactly. Why should he say it to her face? Is she going to fight him or something? lol

I love some of her followers "stop picking on her cause she's black!!!"


No idiots. She compared rooting for the Celtics to rooting for Hitler. That's the main reason this host (who I also think is an idiot) is coming at her. Secondary reason is Her show is awful and knowledgeable writers like stark are being canned. Nothing to do with her race but that's always a fun card to play. Stay woke.

[CrashTheStone41]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

She's bad. She acts like she won the lottery when doing the job (which she kind of did)


Looks like Marc Stein and Chad Ford also out....

She doesn't bring anything to the table and her voice is not suited for broadcasting. I always get drawn in to games when the people commentating have soothing voices (like Pat Foley from the Blackhawks). Her voice makes me cringe.

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

I love some of her followers "stop picking on her cause she's black!!!"


No idiots. She compared rooting for the Celtics to rooting for Hitler. That's the main reason this host (who I also think is an idiot) is coming at her. Secondary reason is Her show is awful and knowledgeable writers like stark are being canned. Nothing to do with her race but that's always a fun card to play. Stay woke.

Of course. What else would she say?


Yeah I'm still bummed Stark got let go. Really hoping MLB or Fox picks him up. He's way too good. Loved him on the Baseball Tonight podcast.

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by aeroshady

Lot of good posts.

This one stands out to me though because it doesn't mention soccer. Every kid plays soccer growing up just like basketball or football. For that reason, I don't believe it is a fringe sport in America. It has easily been the fastest growing sport in the US over the last decade.

not a ton of kids played soccer when i was growing up 20 years ago. i know things are different now, but its not like it just changed overnight. soccer is in a transition period right now, and will be for a while. yes, it is the fastest growing sport in the country, but it still has a long way to go to get on the same footing as the NHL and NBA, let alone the NFL and MLB.

while it might be very popular with kids today, the people who would be paying to go see a game are the ones who were growing up when soccer most definitely was a fringe sport. even though soccer was always more accessible than hockey and car racing, nobody cared about soccer. it was a european sport, and hardly anyone payed attention to it.

we won't truly know where soccer stands for probably another 20 years, when the kids growing up playing now are adults and buying tickets. if you do some reading, you'll find that MLS' attendance numbers aren't always what they seem to be. MLS has a lot of room for growth, but it also needs to do a lot of growing to be considered one of the major sports.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by mthawk07

Mark May was let go. About time!

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooo!!!! Who will tell me USC will win it all every year?!

[SmoothG]

How the heck can they get rid of so many people and stephen a smith still has a job.

I'm saltiest about Andy Katz.

What a terrible terrible organisation.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by SmoothG

How the heck can they get rid of so many people and stephen a smith still has a job.

I'm saltiest about Andy Katz.

What a terrible terrible organisation.

Because it would probably cost more to fire him, and he has a rabid fanbase (which admittedly has grossly evaporated after losing Skip - the true star.)

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by spoot388

not a ton of kids played soccer when i was growing up 20 years ago. i know things are different now, but its not like it just changed overnight. soccer is in a transition period right now, and will be for a while. yes, it is the fastest growing sport in the country, but it still has a long way to go to get on the same footing as the NHL and NBA, let alone the NFL and MLB.

while it might be very popular with kids today, the people who would be paying to go see a game are the ones who were growing up when soccer most definitely was a fringe sport. even though soccer was always more accessible than hockey and car racing, nobody cared about soccer. it was a european sport, and hardly anyone payed attention to it.

we won't truly know where soccer stands for probably another 20 years, when the kids growing up playing now are adults and buying tickets. if you do some reading, you'll find that MLS' attendance numbers aren't always what they seem to be. MLS has a lot of room for growth, but it also needs to do a lot of growing to be considered one of the major sports.

Interesting, how old are you? I ask because I am in my 30's and 20 years ago when I was growing up and in grade school everyone played soccer. My cousins played in North Carolina as well as my family in Texas, and I grew up in NJ. So I am confused as to how our experiences were so different.

I do agree that most kids who played soccer didn't follow it at all. There was always one or two that everyone else ignored when they talked about it.

That said, I think the growth in soccer in this country is in the form of viewership, not in participation (at least at the youth level). I think maybe the difference is that now that soccer is shown here in the US in many forms, it has encouraged kids to keep playing the sport now.

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by BotheU2Fan

Because it would probably cost more to fire him, and he has a rabid fanbase (which admittedly has grossly evaporated after losing Skip - the true star.)

I read somewhere that they would have to buy out his contract...for the tune of 3.5 million. So yeah, he would cost too much to fire.

[SmoothG]

Originally Posted by BotheU2Fan

Because it would probably cost more to fire him, and he has a rabid fanbase (which admittedly has grossly evaporated after losing Skip - the true star.)

Originally Posted by aeroshady

I read somewhere that they would have to buy out his contract...for the tune of 3.5 million. So yeah, he would cost too much to fire.

$3.5 million? I bet we could start a go fund me, I'd chip in. Skip is also turrible.

Originally Posted by aeroshady

Interesting, how old are you? I ask because I am in my 30's and 20 years ago when I was growing up and in grade school everyone played soccer. My cousins played in North Carolina as well as my family in Texas, and I grew up in NJ. So I am confused as to how our experiences were so different.

I do agree that most kids who played soccer didn't follow it at all. There was always one or two that everyone else ignored when they talked about it.

That said, I think the growth in soccer in this country is in the form of viewership, not in participation (at least at the youth level). I think maybe the difference is that now that soccer is shown here in the US in many forms, it has encouraged kids to keep playing the sport now.

Almost everyone I knew growing up played soccer at some point, but eventually decided on another sport. Not an original thought obviously, but good athletes have always and will always decide to focus on a sport where they have a chance of being rich and famous. American soccer really needs a few things...a better system to keep the young talent from leaving, more money spent on coaching and facilities at the youth level, more exposure and hype on tv (not just the games, but more time on sports talk shows) and they really need to develop a world class player who people can follow. Landon Donovan was close but imo he wasn't good enough or really likeable.

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by SmoothG

$3.5 million? I bet we could start a go fund me, I'd chip in. Skip is also turrible.



Almost everyone I knew growing up played soccer at some point, but eventually decided on another sport. Not an original thought obviously, but good athletes have always and will always decide to focus on a sport where they have a chance of being rich and famous. American soccer really needs a few things...a better system to keep the young talent from leaving, more money spent on coaching and facilities at the youth level, more exposure and hype on tv (not just the games, but more time on sports talk shows) and they really need to develop a world class player who people can follow. Landon Donovan was close but imo he wasn't good enough or really likeable.

Totally agree. If US soccer had a Messi or Ronaldo type player, the sport would skyrocket in popularity. We like to be the best here, so far, our men's team just doesn't represent that.

[smokew11]

Originally Posted by aeroshady

Totally agree. If US soccer had a Messi or Ronaldo type player, the sport would skyrocket in popularity. We like to be the best here, so far, our men's team just doesn't represent that.

hasn't this been the argument for years? remember when Beckham came over and soccer became super popular?

[crashintonickdm]

Originally Posted by smokew11

hasn't this been the argument for years? remember when Beckham came over and soccer became super popular?

No

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[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by CrashTheStone41

She doesn't bring anything to the table and her voice is not suited for broadcasting. I always get drawn in to games when the people commentating have soothing voices (like Pat Foley from the Blackhawks). Her voice makes me cringe.

she's not great, but the real problem with ESPN's baseball broadcasts is the stupid K-Zone

[TwoStep2888]

K-Zone is def a problem

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by smokew11

hasn't this been the argument for years? remember when Beckham came over and soccer became super popular?

Yes, and it did become more popular as a result, you just didn't open your eyes. Also, Beckham is English, not American. Even so, there are fans all over the country wearing European soccer jerseys now. That didn't exist in the early 2000s.

Also, keep in mind that MLS games have about 20,000-25,000 people per game in most markets, that is better than the NBA for attendance.

[Rodey]

Apparently they're hiring, too: https://www.recode.net/2017/5/1/1550...wski-woj-yahoo

Probably one of the smartest things they've ever done. Hope they don't ruin him/The Vertical.

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by aeroshady

Also, keep in mind that MLS games have about 20,000-25,000 people per game in most markets, that is better than the NBA for attendance.

With a ton less games and a lot less markets.

That 20k nightly seems high too.

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by kydmb99

Chad Ford also let go. Wow. ESPN just getting rid of "non-personalities"

Ford should have been let go when he started going back and editing old mocks to make himself look good.

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by Rodey

Ford should have been let go when he started going back and editing old mocks to make himself look good.

I don't know, that was pretty damn funny to me.

[aeroshady]

Originally Posted by sbuzzz

With a ton less games and a lot less markets.

That 20k nightly seems high too.

Red Bull's numbers here in NY, but you could make the same argument you just made about the NFL...

I have always said, give the Yankees or Red Sox 8 home games a season and see how hard it is to get a ticket...