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Old 05-13-2008, 05:47 AM   #1
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Open discussion on current studio session

We are all here on these boards, this forum in particular, for a reason. We want information on the new album and to volley ideas on what songs might be on it, who's guesting, release date, etc. One important question I think we all wonder is if any member of the band visits this site or other websites. A more broader question is: Does the band keep a good pulse on the fanbase either through visiting forums or having personnel keeping an eye on us? I would like your opinion on this. I believe there could be convincing facts to support either side. The reason I think this is such an important question is that I believe that the band is somewhat jaded towards the the fanbase and probably reached that point several years ago after the release of Busted Stuff. I truly think they feel "damned if we do and damned if we don't" I do know that Dave Matthews has said himself that they were going to take their sweet time making this album. The band is going to do what makes them happy, not what might make us happy. So about the time we stop expecting some sort of update or a new studio album site is about the time it'll go up. Kick back, relax...get ready for the tour and maybe expect some sort of news during that time frame.
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    Re: Open discussion on current studio session

    I doubt DMB is hanging on our every word, waiting for us to stop bitching so they can release their new website

    "Oh hey, those retarded fans of ours that made us famous stopped bitching. Guess it's all clear now to open the new album site"
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    the band has feelers that are on the site from time to time. wouldnt suprise me if stefan checks in
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    Well there's no question the band checks sites as well-established as this one, but whether we hold any influence over them is another question entirely
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    Oh, fergie ferg.... always over estimating how much the band checks websites.
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    I sure hope noone in here has an influence on them. This place is negative as it gets.
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    Oh, fergie ferg.... always over estimating how much the band checks websites.
    Never said they'd check it often...
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    I doubt DMB is hanging on our every word, waiting for us to stop bitching so they can release their new website

    "Oh hey, those retarded fans of ours that made us famous stopped bitching. Guess it's all clear now to open the new album site"
    Oh, absolutely. I completely agree that they are not hanging on our every word so to speak. I do feel they know that their fanbase is getting antsy (no pun intended) for more information on the album, but they don't really care about our desires to get regular updates on what they are doing in the studio. As of today, they are not ready to relinquish anything. All I'm saying is that the band is going to do what is in their best interest first, then maybe...just maybe what might/might not please the fans. I think that they are point in their careers where they could care less about how we feel from one day to the next. Generally speaking they do care about us, but not to the point where they feel the need to keep us happy as much as it is possible. That in itself is impossible and they know it.
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    See Below... we already have this thread "info comes in ... let's keep this updated"
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    See Below... we already have this thread "info comes in ... let's keep this updated"
    This thread was meant to be more about expectations of the fans from the band and their influence or lack there of. If I could go back and change the title of the thread I would.
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    This thread was meant to be more about expectations of the fans from the band and their influence or lack there of. If I could go back and change the title of the thread I would.
    Fans have little influence. Certainly less than they did when the band was in its infancy, but that's not exactly groundbreaking insight. The band is successful beyond its wildest dreams, and assumes (correctly) that the fanbase will continue to turn out in droves regardless of the product. That's not to say they assume they can make bad music--or to give less than their best in the studio--and it be without ramifications, just that an always growing fanbase will offset any defections that result from poor content (Stand Up, Everyday).

    This has been disucssed ad nasuem in other threads. Not really ripping ya because who is going to look through 2,000-odd posts in the main thread to find a few comments?
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    This thread was meant to be more about expectations of the fans from the band and their influence or lack there of. If I could go back and change the title of the thread I would.
    k man no worries, sorry for being a bastard anyway, ha, i was finishing up my last day of law finals
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    Fans have little influence. Certainly less than they did when the band was in its infancy, but that's not exactly groundbreaking insight. The band is successful beyond its wildest dreams, and assumes (correctly) that the fanbase will continue to turn out in droves regardless of the product. That's not to say they assume they can make bad music--or to give less than their best in the studio--and it be without ramifications, just that an always growing fanbase will offset any defections that result from poor content (Stand Up, Everyday).

    This has been disucssed ad nasuem in other threads. Not really ripping ya because who is going to look through 2,000-odd posts in the main thread to find a few comments?
    Oh I know that it's been discussed before countless times and won't take offense if a person states the fact that this isn't a groundbreaking subject. But there are some people on these boards who feel like the band owes them something or that they deserve more than what they are getting out of the band whether it be through new information, varied songs on tour, a better album, etc. The band only owes themselves for these things and a some fans just need to be reminded of that.
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    No problem. I didn't think you were being a bastard at all.
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    having a large fanbase must be such a double-edged sword - on the one hand they must love and acknowledge that they wouldn't be where they are today without all those fans. On the other hand, those fans must be awfully annoying sometimes and maybe counter-productive to producing art. Because artists live and die by being creative - looking forward - but fans have a real compulsion to only look back and hold up their own subjective experiences as highlights.
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    having a large fanbase must be such a double-edged sword - on the one hand they must love and acknowledge that they wouldn't be where they are today without all those fans. On the other hand, those fans must be awfully annoying sometimes and maybe counter-productive to producing art. Because artists live and die by being creative - looking forward - but fans have a real compulsion to only look back and hold up their own subjective experiences as highlights.
    And this is why I personally supported Everyday, Dave experimenting solo with Some Devil, and Stand Up. Although these ventures wasn't everyone's cup of tea, they were paths where Dave and the band could experience something different. And if this new album happens to be lumped into that group of ventures rather than with UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS....I wouldn't regard it as a failure like so many other fans have done in the past and might do in the future.
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    I hear that they're covering a Trust Company song on the new record.
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    And this is why I personally supported Everyday, Dave experimenting solo with Some Devil, and Stand Up. Although these ventures wasn't everyone's cup of tea, they were paths where Dave and the band could experience something different. And if this new album happens to be lumped into that group of ventures rather than with UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS....I wouldn't regard it as a failure like so many other fans have done in the past and might do in the future.
    Well said.
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    And this is why I personally supported Everyday, Dave experimenting solo with Some Devil, and Stand Up. Although these ventures wasn't everyone's cup of tea, they were paths where Dave and the band could experience something different. And if this new album happens to be lumped into that group of ventures rather than with UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS....I wouldn't regard it as a failure like so many other fans have done in the past and might do in the future.
    I guess if you consider being as artistically lazy as humanly possible an "experiment"...
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    having a large fanbase must be such a double-edged sword - on the one hand they must love and acknowledge that they wouldn't be where they are today without all those fans. On the other hand, those fans must be awfully annoying sometimes and maybe counter-productive to producing art. Because artists live and die by being creative - looking forward - but fans have a real compulsion to only look back and hold up their own subjective experiences as highlights.
    Yes, it was the "fans" that made them have parties and leave Roi alone to do the work on SU...

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    Yes, it was the "fans" that made them have parties and leave Roi alone to do the work on SU...

    I have no idea what your response has to do with my original statement.
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    Yes, it was the "fans" that made them have parties and leave Roi alone to do the work on SU...

    That isn't true. You are officially loosing it.
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    That isn't true. You are officially loosing it.
    Keep living on your cloud of DMB denial
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    I have no idea what your response has to do with my original statement.
    Put on your thinking cap.
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    The fans will always have influence on the band and what they do. If that wasn't the case, the band wouldn't be touring anymore.
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    Put on your thinking cap.
    ok, let me put on my thinking cap for you.

    Here's what I think: I think you're a grey cloud on a sunny day. I think you're the taste of vinegar on a baby's silver spoon. I think your knee-jerk Pavlovian reactions to any discussion regarding SU and DMB in general are repetitive, self-serving and wouldn't be so useless if you didn't express yourself so carelessly and without regard for other people. I think you too often regard other members of this community with hostility and condescension and to constantly do that in the face of genuine criticism regarding it, I think you must have a passive/aggressive mixture of megalomania and self-loathing at play.

    Now, I said that having a large, vigorous fanbase must be a double-edged sword. The very people who raised you up are the very ones who'll leap to cut you down. Does this sound at all familiar to you?

    Your response isn't really a response at all, at least not to the point being raised. It's just another cheap, petty rant, a dime a dozen and just an endless yawn. Another twist of the knife - can't resist can you? - over an album that was released three years ago that - if I have my thinking cap put on correctly - you didn't quite dig. Get over it.

    Every discussion board has that one person that just can't help themselves for all the wrong reasons. Nicely played, sir.
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    ok, let me put on my thinking cap for you.

    Here's what I think: I think you're a grey cloud on a sunny day. I think you're the taste of vinegar on a baby's silver spoon. I think your knee-jerk Pavlovian reactions to any discussion regarding SU and DMB in general are repetitive, self-serving and wouldn't be so useless if you didn't express yourself so carelessly and without regard for other people. I think you too often regard other members of this community with hostility and condescension and to constantly do that in the face of genuine criticism regarding it, I think you must have a passive/aggressive mixture of megalomania and self-loathing at play.

    Now, I said that having a large, vigorous fanbase must be a double-edged sword. The very people who raised you up are the very ones who'll leap to cut you down. Does this sound at all familiar to you?

    Your response isn't really a response at all, at least not to the point being raised. It's just another cheap, petty rant, a dime a dozen and just an endless yawn. Another twist of the knife - can't resist can you? - over an album that was released three years ago that - if I have my thinking cap put on correctly - you didn't quite dig. Get over it.

    Every discussion board has that one person that just can't help themselves for all the wrong reasons. Nicely played, sir.
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    ok, let me put on my thinking cap for you.

    Here's what I think: I think you're a grey cloud on a sunny day. I think you're the taste of vinegar on a baby's silver spoon. I think your knee-jerk Pavlovian reactions to any discussion regarding SU and DMB in general are repetitive, self-serving and wouldn't be so useless if you didn't express yourself so carelessly and without regard for other people. I think you too often regard other members of this community with hostility and condescension and to constantly do that in the face of genuine criticism regarding it, I think you must have a passive/aggressive mixture of megalomania and self-loathing at play.

    Now, I said that having a large, vigorous fanbase must be a double-edged sword. The very people who raised you up are the very ones who'll leap to cut you down. Does this sound at all familiar to you?

    Your response isn't really a response at all, at least not to the point being raised. It's just another cheap, petty rant, a dime a dozen and just an endless yawn. Another twist of the knife - can't resist can you? - over an album that was released three years ago that - if I have my thinking cap put on correctly - you didn't quite dig. Get over it.

    Every discussion board has that one person that just can't help themselves for all the wrong reasons. Nicely played, sir.
    You forgot to add that you award him no points, and hope that God grants mercy on his soul.
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    I kind of find Mistreated's bitching humorous... it gets old, yes, but sometimes his bitterness is laughable and enjoyable
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    Re: Open discussion on current studio session

    you can always count on him for some great sarcastic remarks and negativity, it definitely gives me a good chuckle every now and then.
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