Mad Men

[Proudest Bonzai]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

He seemed unsurprisingly broken up about Peggy.

Agreed.

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[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by Benny003

So before 2 episodes ago or so, did we know anything about Lane possibly going to jail because of tax evasion in the UK? That's what's driving Lane needing the bonus money, right?

I think he solved that issue, only to now be facing the issue of someone figuring out that he essentially stole $50,000 from the company.

[Arby]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

I think he solved that issue, only to now be facing the issue of someone figuring out that he essentially stole $50,000 from the company.

50,000? I thought it was like 8,000.

[AJF_41]

Originally Posted by som3d3vil34

50,000? I thought it was like 8,000.

i think he asked for 50K (for all of the partners)...i thought he owed 10K.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by som3d3vil34

50,000? I thought it was like 8,000.

Oh, that makes more sense. I think I'm thinking of the total amount of surplus that he wanted to be distributed to the partners.

[Ascf33]

Rivals 'The Suitcase" for best episode ever.

[Ascf33]

Also, $19,000/yr (1965) comes to ~$138,000/yr (2012) and she got a promotion. I'd fucking leave too.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by Ascf33

Rivals 'The Suitcase" for best episode ever.

Nothing will ever beat S3's finale.

[Arby]

Originally Posted by AJF_41

i think he asked for 50K (for all of the partners)...i thought he owed 10K.

Yea I think that's right. There's no way a guy who keeps track of the finances for a living gets himself 50,000 in debt

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by Ascf33

Also, $19,000/yr (1965) comes to ~$138,000/yr (2012) and she got a promotion. I'd fucking leave too.

Don said he'd beat the offer, so you can't say it was a money issue.

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

Oh, that makes more sense. I think I'm thinking of the total amount of surplus that he wanted to be distributed to the partners.

Yup, because his share of the fictitious bonus would be enough to get him out of debt.

[thebridge15]

Is it ever going to be explained why he's in debt? He was talking to his wife about something to do with his son's school, but I'm not sure.

[Ascf33]

Originally Posted by cruscott35

Don said he'd beat the offer, so you can't say it was a money issue.

No, of course it wasn't. I was speaking for myself (hence the I'd in the post...)

It's pretty clear that getting out from under Don's shadow is her biggest concern.

[cruscott35]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

Is it ever going to be explained why he's in debt? He was talking to his wife about something to do with his son's school, but I'm not sure.

Pretty sure it's a tax related issue.

[AJF_41]

peggy felt undervalued.
i think that is pretty straight forward.

[AJF_41]

Originally Posted by cruscott35

Pretty sure it's a tax related issue.

yup. that's what the guy on the phone said.

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by cruscott35

Pretty sure it's a tax related issue.

Well yea, I just find it surprising that Lane would get into that kinda trouble. I mean it's not like he's getting paid poorly, is he?

[UNC41]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

He seemed surprisingly broken up about Peggy.

I didn't see it as surprising. Don has always been a man who is in control of everything. With Megan getting more independent by the week, Peggy leaving is Don losing one of the last people he thought he had control of in life.

[trippinchad]

Lane embezzled 8,000 dollars from the company to pay what he owed. But correct me if I'm wrong, to do that, didn't he go to their banker and extend SCDP's credit extension by $50,000? That's why the bonuses were made available and that's also why in this previous episode when Cooper asked if they could just extend their credit to Lane he got all nervous. Because he had just done that to save his ass. He's gonna get caught.

EDIT: Actually I'm positive that's all correct, look here: http://www.amctv.com/shows/mad-men/e...hristmas-waltz

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by trippinchad

Lane embezzled 8,000 dollars from the company to pay what he owed. But correct me if I'm wrong, to do that, didn't he go to their banker and extend SCDP's credit extension by $50,000? That's why the bonuses were made available and that's also why in this previous episode when Cooper asked if they could just extend their credit to Lane he got all nervous. Because he had just done that to save his ass. He's gonna get caught.

EDIT: Actually I'm positive that's all correct, look here: http://www.amctv.com/shows/mad-men/e...hristmas-waltz

Yea that's what I thought happened. He extended the credit and then wrote a check from Don to himself.

[trippinchad]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

Well yea, I just find it surprising that Lane would get into that kinda trouble. I mean it's not like he's getting paid poorly, is he?

Yeah I thought that too, but remember last episode he mentioned to Joan that he didn't stand up for himself and ask for enough money when SCDP was formed.

[Benny003]

So my whole point with asking about Lane's issue with needing the $8,000 was that does anyone else feel like it came out of the blue? I mean in Lane's fairly long character arc, does that situation make sense for him? I mean it's turning into a huge issue where people are speculating that Lane might kill himself over this issue because it's currently just building and building into something bigger with the embezzlement and everything. I just have trouble seeing why the writers put Lane into this situation or why it fits his character.

That being said, why didn't Lane just approach Don in private and tell him he's going to go to jail if he doesn't get $8,000? I mean surely Don would have helped him out to keep him out of jail, right? It just seems odd that Lane would first get into this situation and then go to such extremes to hide it when I would have go guess someone would have been willing to help him.

[thebridge15]

Agreed. It really does seem like it's out of nowhere for the sake of giving Lane something to do.

[cruscott35]

Wasn't money brought up before when discussing his child's education?

[thebridge15]

Yes. It's been implied at least this season that Lane has some money issues. I just don't get how that really fits in with his character.

Though he did go through a divorce, right?

[trippinchad]

I also agree that it seemed to come out of no where..and not very fitting to his character. I figured he was well off till this season. His names on the door!

[cruscott35]

You have to be pretty well off to have tax issues of that magnitude... If Peggy's 19k salary is worth 135k now then Lane's 8k debt is like 50k... You've got to be pretty well off to have a 50k tax liability in the first place.

[thebridge15]

I'm just wondering how he'd have accrued that liability. Maybe that's yet to be revealed to the audience.

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by trippinchad

I also agree that it seemed to come out of no where..and not very fitting to his character. I figured he was well off till this season. His names on the door!

I disagree with that. I think what he said to Joan in the most recent episode is true — he's spent his entire life doing what everyone else wanted to do so they were happy at his own expense. In this case, it's about money.

I don't think he's divorced; I think they just live in separate countries, which would also be a financial strain.

[thebridge15]

I get that it could be a pride thing that he doesn't want to ask Roger or Don for the money, but that has to be a better option than embezzling it. Maybe he just thinks there's a good chance he won't get caught, since he's almost solely responsible for financials.