**Official Running Thread**

[siserilla]

Originally Posted by whodat

Whoa, bad knee. Not good. Take care of that thing. Hope it feels better soon.

I need to go to the doc and have him check it out. There's something there that shouldn't be. I have bad knees already and I really don't want to make them worse

[GoldnFear]

I use the music to inspire me (at times) but I rarely find my pace matches the beat. I can lose myself in a song (lyrics) or I can practically forget it is there sometimes too....

Btw, I am not psyched about running in FL... but I did Vegas last Dec... also with a 6am start. So I guess I am just optimistic that the weather won't be 'africa hot'.
Vegas was 40's when we started.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by GoldnFear

Hal Higdon's novice program (18 weeks... max is 40mi per week). I generally just use it as some mileage advice and adjust as necessary (b/c I run other smaller races throughout the year... 5k, 5m, etc).

Thanks for the info. I will check that program out. Wonder how different it is to the Pfitzinger/Douglas.

Originally Posted by GoldnFear

I am all about using the iPod. But for a race I did back in June it was prohibited. If it was just about me then I might've tried to run with it... but it was a team relay and I didn't want to hurt the team (w/ a penalty or disqualification). THAT was a long, hot one!!

Now that I need to start running longer, I tried out the 'fuel belt' I've had but never used (holds 4 small liquid bottles). And now I have somewhere to clip my iPod mini cuz I don't have an arm band. I like not having to carry it!!!

I am pretty sure that all sanctioned races now prohibit the use of music listening devices. Now, do they enforce rule. Not at the races I have done recently. The race organizers joke about it, but I have yet to anyone tell someone to take their iPod off.

How did you like the fuel belt? I carry a single bottle currently that holds about 20-24 ozs. of water, I think the 4 bottle belt that you use allows for up to 32 ozs. of liquid. I always run out of water on my longer runs and currently it is bothering my lower back. Does the fuel belt keep the weight pretty even across your waist and hips? Do you try and empty the bottles as a even rate, or do you drink from one until it is gone then use another?

[whodat]

Originally Posted by crew355

i know this is probably the right thing to do - i definitely sometimes get lost in the music and go faster than i should, or stop paying attention... and, on the flip side i've found that when i listen to talk shows on the ipod i get lost in the discussion and slow down significantly haha. i suppose it depends on your personality how likely you are to get lost in what you're listening to but for focus reasons (and to avoid getting hit by, and to be able to hear cars) i suppose its better to go without. but i can't b/c good god it's boring.

I say to each their own when it comes the music and running. My wife loves to listen to her music when she runs, because like you stated, she finds it boring to run without music. What ever gets you on the road exercising works.

I think for me when I run, I find things to occupy my thoughts while I run. I check my Garmin for time and milage. I think about whatever. I actually observe the area I live in. (It is amazing the places you find when you run by them, and not whiz by in your car.) About a month after I gave up my iPod, I end up running a 1/2 marathon in the rain. I was glad that I had run without an iPod before then, or it could have been a long race. Plus, I have had the fortunate opportunity to run in Central Park and along the Hudson River in NYC and along the St. Charles River in Boston this year. I think that not having an iPod helped me take in the scenery of both locations.

Originally Posted by crew355

arm band is ESSENTIAL if you go the ipod route
and unfortunately you must buy the expensive ones (like $20-$30) with velcro
because the cheap ones are awfully uncomfortable
whereas the expensive ones are durable as hell and comfortable

Solid info. I have the one from Nike. I think it was $20. Might smell a bit now, but it worked like a champ when I used it.

Originally Posted by siserilla

I need to go to the doc and have him check it out. There's something there that shouldn't be. I have bad knees already and I really don't want to make them worse

Good luck Melissa. Hope that it is nothing more then tendinitis.

[GoldnFear]

Well I juuust starting using the belt and it is about 32oz... I think.
So far I only filled 2 bottles (for a 6+ mi run) just to try it out. The weight was fine. And I only emptied one during that run. I don't think emptying one then another (vs all at an even rate) will be that big of a deal.


We'll see if I feel the same after 4 bottles and 10+ miles...

[whodat]

Originally Posted by GoldnFear

Well I juuust starting using the belt and it is about 32oz... I think.
So far I only filled 2 bottles (for a 6+ mi run) just to try it out. The weight was fine. And I only emptied one during that run. I don't think emptying one then another (vs all at an even rate) will be that big of a deal.


We'll see if I feel the same after 4 bottles and 10+ miles...

I will expect a full report after that run.

Seriously, thanks for the input. I am considering a move to that fuel belt and want gather as much info as I can to see if it the right move.

[GoldnFear]

5 hot and humid CT miles today.... : phew

That's all.

[whodat]

You da' man!!!

[~Crashintome89~]

Ran another six yesterday. So sixteen in a matter of days, not good. I was sore like a motherfucker this morning.

I'm gonna take another day off, most likely.

[whodat]

Rest is your friend. I have had numerous people tell me you get faster not by running more. But by running, having easy running days and resting. Not every run has to be all out. Tomorrow I have 5 recovery miles. Mile times will be in the 9:30 to 10:00. Slow, but I am soooo looking forward to it.

[dmbmuskie]

I always forget how nasty the heat is. I was dead after 20 minutes today.

[Milenk]

Originally Posted by crew355

arm band is ESSENTIAL if you go the ipod route
and unfortunately you must buy the expensive ones (like $20-$30) with velcro
because the cheap ones are awfully uncomfortable
whereas the expensive ones are durable as hell and comfortable

Inaccurate, the iPod Nano is the only way to go.

[Milenk]

Originally Posted by GoldnFear

5 hot and humid CT miles today.... : phew

That's all.

Shitty weather I know, right? I'm on the treadmill today for 8, sucks.

[Milenk]

A few days ago I went out at 12:30pm for a 10 mile tempo up a difficult out and back. Miles 4 & 5 are just one long climb. Anyway, to make a long story short, it sucked. I'm running kind of shitty lately cause I strained a muscle somewhere in my hip/quad area. I just got to re-focus, but it's tough to always be motivated when your body isn't 100%.

[GoldnFear]

Originally Posted by Milenk

Shitty weather I know, right? I'm on the treadmill today for 8, sucks.

Two words: no way! Anything over 5 (ok maaaybe 5.5-ish) requires the road! I would be waaay too bored on a treadmill for that long.


Injured and still running that many miles? Wow!

[siserilla]

I talked to my Uncle, who is a doctor, and he said I defintely need to get my knee checked out it's either an infection or arthritis

[whodat]

Originally Posted by Milenk

Shitty weather I know, right? I'm on the treadmill today for 8, sucks.

Originally Posted by GoldnFear

Two words: no way! Anything over 5 (ok maaaybe 5.5-ish) requires the road! I would be waaay too bored on a treadmill for that long.


Injured and still running that many miles? Wow!

Oh, the ever popular dread-mill. I run on that thing on when I HAVE to. I have heard of people that do almost there entire training for races on a dread-mill. That is just amazing. And boring as all hell.

Originally Posted by siserilla

I talked to my Uncle, who is a doctor, and he said I defintely need to get my knee checked out it's either an infection or arthritis

Woo, that can't be good. Hopefully what ever it is can be taken care of with no long lasting side affects.

[Milenk]

Originally Posted by GoldnFear

Two words: no way! Anything over 5 (ok maaaybe 5.5-ish) requires the road! I would be waaay too bored on a treadmill for that long.


Injured and still running that many miles? Wow!

It's a marginal injury, just like a nagging fucking thing that prevents me from going full speed. You did the Independence Day 5000, just wondering if you did the Winter Wonderland Roadrace in Milford in February....

[GoldnFear]

Nope. I started doing the Indep Day 5k 3 years ago b/c my mom lives down that way and she would always say "we come to your races up there (I live in Southington) but why don't you race down this way (she lives in Shelton) s'more..."

Our next one is an easy ride for her... right up Rte 8... Torrington Donors Road Race (5m).

[GoldnFear]

7.85mi done. : phew
I really really didn't want to do a long run today. But I am glad I did. AND I am glad it is DONE!
:thiiiirsty

Time was so-so. But it is early in my "long run" training so I can worry about speeding up as it gets less hot and humid out.

[snapmcd]

Well it looks like I'm in for marathon #5 in November. God help me.

[Milenk]

Originally Posted by snapmcd

Well it looks like I'm in for marathon #5 in November. God help me.

NYC ?

[~Crashintome89~]

Probably going to run six tomorrow. I've kinda slacked off recently in mileage, although my overall time has gone down. But I gotta keep the mileage steady, and up over five since that is my usual race distance.

So we shall see...

[snapmcd]

Originally Posted by Milenk

NYC ?

No--although that's on the list. The Rock and Roll series is now sponsoring the San Antonio Marathon, so I'm doing that one.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by snapmcd

Well it looks like I'm in for marathon #5 in November. God help me.

Amuse me, and tell me the more marathons you do the easier they get.

[Milenk]

Originally Posted by whodat

Amuse me, and tell me the more marathons you do the easier they get.

The more marathons you do the easier they get.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by Milenk

The more marathons you do the easier they get.

That is what I figured. I have done, well, 1 so far. But I am looking at doing 2 more over the next 6 months. After that, I will look to see if the marathon distance is for me, or if I should stick to 10k's and Halves.

[~Crashintome89~]

51:13- six miles.

I'll take it.

[snapmcd]

Originally Posted by whodat

Amuse me, and tell me the more marathons you do the easier they get.

For me, it gets easier mentally. Physically there are just too many factors. Age, weather, the course, your level of training.

I'm 34 and have run 4 marathons, by the way.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by snapmcd

For me, it gets easier mentally. Physically there are just too many factors. Age, weather, the course, your level of training.

I'm 34 and have run 4 marathons, by the way.

I turn 34 next week, so we are in the same boat. I agree 100% about the mental part of that distance. You can only control so much on race day, the rest is out of your hands. As long as you have trained properly and understand the level of fatigue that your body will go through, mentally you can do more to keep yourself going.

I ran my first marathon this past June, and my I am in training for my second in October. If I still think I can run, but more importantly enjoy, the 26.2 after the race in October, I am eyeing one of two races in January.