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Old 04-08-2009, 06:59 PM   #331
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Good read, however I still think the digital physical format has one go around yet and that's Blu-ray. CD still sells well and its approaching its 30th year, clearly people still like a physical format and its no surprise with the loudness war that vinyl has seen a resurgence. I won't go into detail with what I think can be done with Blu-ray, I've mentioned it plenty, but give people a real reason to pony up $20/recording again and they'll do it...CD just isn't it and neither are these deluxe editions because at the heart of it is the same old dynamically challenged CD.

Anyway, I think vinyl will be around for another 60 years no problem.
interesting take, i didn't give much thought to the possibilities of Blu-ray. it would have to find a way to offer more than a CD tho otherwise i don't see the point. maybe they would include art or custom visualizers or something.
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    interesting take, i didn't give much thought to the possibilities of Blu-ray. it would have to find a way to offer more than a CD tho otherwise i don't see the point. maybe they would include art or custom visualizers or something.
    That would be extremely easy. Remember DVD-Audio and SACD (Super Audio CD)? Those formats basically failed because they required specific players to play them. If they do Blu-ray Audio right, then any current blu-ray player should be able to play them. It would offer much higher resulution, multi-channel audio (5.1 or 7.1 surround sound). Have you ever listened to a DVD-Audio album or a SACD on a proper multi-channel speaker setup? It's heaven, absolute heaven. I would absolutely love Blu-Ray Audio to become a reality.
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    Old 04-09-2009, 07:28 AM   #333
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    interesting take, i didn't give much thought to the possibilities of Blu-ray. it would have to find a way to offer more than a CD tho otherwise i don't see the point. maybe they would include art or custom visualizers or something.
    As Benny said, offering more than CD is easy.
    Stricly from a 2-channel standpoint.
    CD = 16/44.1 2.0 = 1,411 Kbps
    BD = 24/192 2.0 = 9,216 Kbps

    That's 6.53 times more fidelity. Now imagine if BTCS were re-released on Blu-ray and it came like this:

    Dave Matthews Band - Before These Crowded Streets [Blu-ray]
    Features:
    • Entire album mastered from analog tapes in 5.1 high resolution 24/192 surround sound
    • Entire album mastered from analog tapes in 2.0 high resolution 24/192 stereo
    • Videos for Crush, DDTW and Stay with 5.1 and 2.0 audio in 1080p
    • Interviews with various band members from 1998
    • MTV Ultra2's "BTCS behind the scenes" presented in 1080p
    • Don't Drink The Water from The Late Show with David Letterman 04.29.98
    • The Stone from The Charlie Rose Show 09.10.99
    • Interactive discography
    • CD "digital copy"

    I'm pretty sure that would be worth anyone's $20 no?
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    Do the cables you run from the turntable/pre affect the sound at all? I picked up some nice beefy cables from mono price for less than $4 a piece but I see some places online that have really expensive cables for the high end systems
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    From my basic understanding, the cables from the turntable to the preamp are the most critical cables in the system. They are the first cables to carry the audio signal. Any distortions caused by these cables will be carried by the rest of the system. You can use whatever cables you want though. Certainly better equipment should yield better sound, but how much better that sound is and what value it is to you is completely up to you. Spend whatever you're comfortable spending.
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    So I have an AT-PL50, and it just died on me. I'm looking to upgrade, and I've heard good things about the Pro-Ject Debut III. I definitely dont want to spend too much (over 450), so is this the best one in that price range? I don't need a pre-amp, I have one built into my stereo.
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    So I have an AT-PL50, and it just died on me. I'm looking to upgrade, and I've heard good things about the Pro-Ject Debut III. I definitely dont want to spend too much (over 450), so is this the best one in that price range? I don't need a pre-amp, I have one built into my stereo.
    I would definitely consider the Pro-Ject Debut but as I posted earlier you're getting a steal with the price of the Goldring GR-1.2 table as well. It's made by Rega to P1 specifications with a cartridge upgrade already complete. The cartridge upgrade is similar to one you're going to spend about $90 on top of the Debut III to get to the same sound with, going from the Ortofon 5 to the Red.

    Seriously, check it out - http://www.audiophileboutique.com/Goldring.html

    It works out to around US$330 for a $425 table.
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    Old 04-09-2009, 02:24 PM   #338
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    So I have an AT-PL50, and it just died on me. I'm looking to upgrade, and I've heard good things about the Pro-Ject Debut III. I definitely dont want to spend too much (over 450), so is this the best one in that price range? I don't need a pre-amp, I have one built into my stereo.
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    Old 04-13-2009, 12:54 PM   #339
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    Remember April 18th is Record Store Day!
    The guys at the TS reminded me of this so I thought I'd top this to remind everyone here
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    Just picked up "Crash" on casette tape for one dollar at the local vinyl shop.
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    Old 04-15-2009, 09:48 AM   #341
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    Got this from the TS. Here is a list of music being released for record store day (and holy hell am I excited):

    Akron/Family - "Everyone is Guilty" 7"
    Bad Religion -Original EP 7" reissue
    Andrew Bird/Loney Dear - split 7"
    The Black Kids - "Wizard of Ahhhs" 10"
    Blitzen Trapper - "War is Placebo"/"Booksmart" 7"
    Bob Dylan - "Dreaming of You"/"Down Along the Cove" 7"
    Booker T - "Warped Sister"/"Reunion Time" 7"
    Camera Obscura - "French Navy" 7"
    Brandi Carlile - "Downpour"/"A Promise To Keep" 7"
    Leonard Cohen 7" - "The Future/"Suzanne"
    Cold War Kids - "Live at Fingerprints"
    The Color Fred - "The Intervention" CD EP
    Elvis Costello - "Complicated Shadows"/"Dirty Rotten Shame" picture disc
    Rivers Cuomo - Live @ Fingerprints CD and CD/DVD Combo
    Cursive/Ladyfinger - Split 10" picture disc
    Dandy Warhols - Remix CD #2
    The Decemberists - "The Rake's Song"/"East India Lanes" 7"
    Def Jam 25: Volume 1 and 2 (4 LP gatefold history of Def Jam)
    Depeche Mode - "Wrong"/"Oh Well" 7"
    Dr. Dog/Floating Action - Split 7"
    Flaming Lips/Black Keys - split 7" ("Borderline"/"Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles")
    Flight of the Conchords - "Pencils In The Wind"/"Albi"
    Gaslight Anthem - Live from Park Ave 10"
    Grizzly Bear - Live on KCRW 7"
    Guided By Voices - "Hold On Hope" LP
    Ben Harper - "Shimmer and Shine"/"Spanish Red Wine" 10"
    Heaven & Hell - 7" "Bible Black"/"Neon Knights (Live)"
    Iron and Wine - Norfolk 6-20-05
    Jane's Addiction - "Mountain Song" / "Standing in the Shower...Thinking" 7"
    Jesus Lizard - box set of 9 different 7"s
    Jenny Lewis/Elvis Costello split 7" - "Carpet Baggers"/"Go Away"
    Lykkie Li/Perro Del Mar - "After Laughter (Comes Tears)" / "At Your Best (You are Love)" 7"
    Magnolia Electric Co. - "It's Made Me Cry" 7"
    MC 5 - "Kick Out The Jams"/"Motor City Is Burning" 7"
    Tift Merritt - Buckingham Solo CD
    Metric - "Help I'm Alive" 7" Picture disc
    Modest Mouse - "Satelite Skin"/"Guilty Cocker Spaniels" 7"
    My Morning Jacket - Celebración De La Ciudad Natal (CD & VERY LIMITED 2 X 10" LP)
    New Order - "Temptation"/"Hurt" 7"
    Oasis - Falling Down Remix LP
    Obits - "I Can't Lose/Military Madness" 7"
    Pavement - "Live in Germany 1988" LP
    Elvis Perkins - "Lorraine Lookout" 7"
    Poison The Well - 6 track CD
    Pretenders - "Break Up The Pavement"/Love's..." 7"
    Queen - Queen's First EP
    Radiohead - 10" vinyl series (Drill, Creep, My Iron Lung, High & Dry, Fake Plastic Trees, Just, Street Spirit, Paranoid Android, Karma Police, No Surprises, Pyramid Song, 2+2=5)
    Arthur Russell - "Love Is Taking Me" 2 X LP
    Silversun Pickups - Pikul 12" (exclusive release ahead of their new album)
    Slayer - "Psychopathy Red" 7"
    The Smiths - "The Headmaster Ritual" /"Oscillate Widly" 7"
    Sonic Youth/Beck - split 7"
    Sonic Youth/Jay Reatard - split 7"
    Bruce Springsteen - "What Love Can Do"/"A Night With The Jersey Devil" 7"
    The Stooges - "1969"/"Real Cool Time" 7"
    Sublime - "Superstar Punani/April 29, 1992" 7"
    Taking Back Sunday - "Carpathia/Catholic" (live) 7"
    The Thermals/Thao - split 7"
    Derek Trucks - "Already Live" EP
    Vetiver - "Wishing Well"/"Pay No Mind" 7"
    Tom Waits - "Live from the Glitterdome" 7"
    Whiskeytown - "San Atone"/"Great Divide" 7"
    Wilco - "Ashes of American Flags" DVD
    Yeah Yeah Yeahs - "It's Blitz" LP
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    Got this from the TS. Here is a list of music being released for record store day (and holy hell am I excited):


    Jane's Addiction - "Mountain Song" / "Standing in the Shower...Thinking" 7"
    In addition Rhino are releasing both Nothing's Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual in new 180g sets for record store day.

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    Old 04-18-2009, 09:59 AM   #343
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    Record Store Day! so the guy at the record store told me they got a third of the special addition stuff they were supposed and they allowed pre-orders on the rest so there wasn't much left when I got there 20minutes after the store opened. What I did get

    Record store special releases:

    Whiskeytown - 7inch
    Radiohead - Creep EP
    Radiohead - Fake Plastic Trees EP

    Regular records I picked up:

    Green Day - Dookie
    Ray La Montagne - Gossip in the Grain
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    Record Store Day Releases

    My Morning Jacket - Celebracion de la Cuidad Natal
    Russian Circles / These Arms are Snakes split 12"
    Grizzley Bear - Live at KCRW
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    I know it's not a collector's item yet, but I did pre-order my Big Whiskey vinyl.
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    Picked up MPP today. And some Kings of Leon 7" thingy from a bin on the way out.

    Also Death Cab for Cutie's The Photo Album, but that's on cd.

    For Emma and Blood Bank were calling to me, though.
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    Old 04-19-2009, 08:47 AM   #347
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    I went to pick up My Morning Jacket and the new Wilco dvd. They had already sold thier lot of Wilco, but the guy at the store hooked me up. He gave me a bunch of stuff for free includind a Record Store Day t-shirt.
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    i'm going out right now to pick up the wilco dvd and the 2 sonic youth 7s
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    I was really bumbed that they were already sold out of Wilco.
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    I was hoping for a record store day t-shirt or something, but nothing!
    Anyway I picked up:

    RSD exclusives:
    Jane's Addiction - Nothings Shocking (180g)
    Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual (2LP 180g)

    Other pick-ups (all new vinyl):
    My Bloody Valentine - Loveless (180g)
    Killing Joke - Pandemonium (2LP 180g neon blue vinyl)
    Portishead - Dummy (Simply Vinyl 180g issue)
    Underworld - Oblivion with Bells (2LP 180g)
    Swervedriver - The Hitcher (7")

    Very happy overall!
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    So i ended up picking up both sonic youth singles, the decemberists single, and then also Hazard of Love and Peacebone. oh, and the Wilco DVD. Feels good man.
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    Bummed I had to work on RSD. I didn't have to go in until 2, but Pure Pop didn't open until 12, and there was no way I was going to be in and out in 10 minutes, in time for the 2 hour drive to and from Burlington.

    But Billboard had a solid write-up.

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    Thanks to the 82 exclusive releases and limited availability, customers lined up at record stores all around the country on Saturday morning and helped kickoff Record Store Day 2009 with a bang. Reports suggest traffic pick-ups and sales volume this year will be more than last year's inaugural event.

    "It was my best day by far," says Eric Levin, owner of Criminal Records in Atlanta and the head of the Assn. of Independent Media Stores coalition. "We had 600 people in the store; it was well-controlled chaos. My vinyl sales alone yesterday was larger than last year's total Record Store Day take."

    Michael Kurtz, executive director of the Music Monitor Network, tells Billboard that from the stores that he heard from, "the majority of the stores had matched last year's volume by mid-afternoon."

    He added that stores, who have been already selling increasing amounts of vinyl to both the old and younger demos, were particularly shocked by "the massive amount of young people coming into stores looking for vinyl." The exclusives and other commercial releases timed for Record Store Day, really add the extra sizzle, store executives tell Billboard. "All these little gems that the labels created for us - what an incredible effort from the small labels to the big guys, it was really stunning," Criminal Records Levin says.

    But maybe allotments could have been more, Music Monitor Network's Kurtz adds. "Tom Waits, the Flaming Lips/Black Keys single, Beck, Sonic Youth, [Bruce] Springsteen and [Bob] Dylan singles went way too quick."

    J&R store manager Charlie Bagarozza reports that when the store opened, it had 50 people waiting in line, and many of them have the record sacks that you often see at record swaps, leading him to conclude that these shoppers are going to race around the city trying to get the exclusives. In fact, later that afternoon, New York radio station WRXP (101.9), which touted record store day all afternoon on Saturday, had a report from someone it stationed at the Tunes store in Hoboken, N.J., and that staffer interviewed a customer who has spent the day driving to multiple New Jersey stores - going from Jack's Music Shoppe in Red Bank to Scotti's in Northern Jersey to Vintage Vinyl in Fords and finally to Tunes - looking for exclusives, bargains, and performances.

    J&R had brisk traffic at noon, with about 75 people shopping. In a change from last year, there is a big label presence at J&R, and conversations reveal, across the country. About 15 label and distribution executives are in attendance at J&R including Atlantic Records chairman and chief operating officer Julie Greenwald. In addition, National Assn. of Recording Merchandisers president Jim Donio and four other NARM staffers are there for the event.

    Sony Music Entertainment's Global Digital Business and US sales VP of marketing Anthony Ellis said company had 100 people, including college reps hitting stores around the nation. The reps were monitoring 30 Sony-artists in-stores appearances that day, including Ashford & Simpson at Basement Mix in the East New York neighborhood in Brooklyn.

    WEA executive Jack Klotz said the company's labels made 19 exclusive releases for Record Store Day and reported the Disturbed in-store at the Portland, Maine, store of Bull Moose drew 400 people, with the line forming the night before at 11 p.m. He also showed a picture from Grimey's in Nashville with the store jam-packed with hundreds of customers.

    EMI Music Marketing executive David Miller told Billboard that his staff reports the Decemberists exclusive is sold out at Newbury Comics store in Newton, Mass.; Vintage Vinyl in Fords, N.J. had 300 people in line when the store opens and Dearborm Music in Michigan opened with 50 people waiting.

    Sony's Ellis kicked off the in-store performance section of the day at J&R by reading Mayor Bloomberg's proclamation making April 18 Record Store Day in New York City. NARM was the sponsor of Record Store Day; Donio followed Ellis and reported that 600 live performances were taking place across the country in conjunction with the event. Shinedown, the first act on at J&R, played a great acoustic set that was well received by the 150 shoppers in the store.

    MMN's Kurtz summed up the day: "Record store day proves that if the industry sends out a positive image that focuses on the art and the music, the results are spectacular."
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    The numbers are in and Record Store Day produced a nearly 1% gain - to 566,000 for the week versus 561,000 from the corresponding week of the prior year - in U.S. album sales for the indie store sector, according to Nielsen SoundScan. While that may seem meager, it comes off as strong considering that U.S. album sales were down 15% last week to 6.3 million from 7.5 million in the corresponding week for the prior year.

    "Any sales increase nowadays is a big victory," says one distribution executive. "Record Store Day was a big success."

    Beyond album sales, Record Store Day is being felt in other places in SoundScan. For instance, 80,000 vinyl albums were scanned last week, versus 40,000 in the same week of the prior year, while 46,000 singles were counted last week versus 33,000 in the same week last year.

    Also, Wilco's "Ashes of American Flags," available exclusively at Record Store Day participants, debuts on top of the video chart with nearly 9,000 scans, or 65.7% greater than the previous week's No. 1 video, Jeff Beck's "Performing This Week."

    Moreover 11 spots of the top 20 singles in SoundScan's physical singles charts are occupied by Record Store Day exclusives, and that might have been more impressive, but a lot of titles weren't registered by SoundScan, including all the Columbia exclusive singles.

    Finally, the nearly 1% gain only represents indie stores while regional chains participating in Record Store Day like Newbury Comics, Bull Moose, Dimples and Rasputin, are each counted as chains. SoundScan says the chain category was down 21% in album sales last week, but that also includes accounts like Best Buy, Borders, and Trans World so its hard to track Record Store Day activity in that sector.

    In an e-mail to the industry, Music Monitor Network president Michael Kurtz wrote that Record Store Day participants averaged a 20% increase over last year's event sales. He also noted that Record Story Day made the top 5 news stories at Google on Saturday and was the 35th most searched item.

    Record Store Day at Criminal Records in Atlanta was "off the hook," owner Eric Levin told Billboard. "People were flipping out over this new act on Nonesuch, Carolina Chocolate Drop, who were incredible. Mike Farris brought his full gear in and wowed everyone, while Manchester Orchestra were just kicking. I had a mass of screaming teenagers waving their [Manchester Orchestra] records; it was like Beatlemania."

    Levin reported that he brought in 60 cases of Pabst Blue Ribbon tall boys, a keg of beer, and Monster Energy drinks, while all of the local restaurants in the area donated food.
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    Getting some great deals as of late. Everything in extremely good condition for being used. Sound awesome except I havent listened to the Floyd one yet.

    Paul Simon Graceland - $5
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    Getting some great deals as of late. Everything in extremely good condition for being used. Sound awesome except I havent listened to the Floyd one yet.

    Paul Simon Graceland - $5
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    Pink Floyd Animals - $12
    Led Zeppelin I - $10
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    Damn, I want Animals on Vinyl. Also, another one to add to my collection I have, "London Calling" by The Clash. Awesome.
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    So, I broke down and just bought Animals and Dark Side of the Moon. I got both of them for only 14 bucks which included the shipping. very excited for these.
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    Damn, I want Animals on Vinyl. Also, another one to add to my collection I have, "London Calling" by The Clash. Awesome.
    My record has a new (reprint) London Calling, I contemplated buying it on RSD but passed. I might pick it up next time I'm there if they still have it
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    The important stat there is that vinyl sales doubled over the previous RSD!
    That's awesome. Adding in the 1% increase takes away from the vinyl #'s, but when you consider what a slide CD is on is still very impressive.
    Remember CD sales dropped 20% in 2008 and were still over 300 times more than vinyl, so if vinyl helped the #'s move up it's doing for music what Blu-ray is doing for video...and we're the lucky ones!
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    Got my copies of "Animals" and "Dark Side of the Moon" today. Very happy.
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    I had nothing else to spend this paycheck on, so...

    Yeah Yeah Yeahs- It's Blitz!
    Dan Deacon- Bromst
    Dan Deacon- Spiderman of the Rings
    Born Ruffians- Red, Yellow, & Blue
    Vampire Weekend- Vampire Weekend
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