Hopes & wishes for the follow-up to BWGK

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

I believe Dave made the comment that if they had stayed with Lillywhite then DMB would have been over long ago. I am sooo tired of people saying that steve lillywhite is responsible for DMB's early success
DAVE MATTHEWS WROTE THOSE SONGS---DAVE MATTHEWS ALSO WROTE EVERYDAY AND STANDUP--- DAVE MATTHEWS WROTE BWGGK

Had lillywhite produced BWGGK..... Guess what? here comes the big surprise........ You would still have all these songs.. because DMB writes the songs not Steve Lillywhite

DMB writes them and then Lillywhite takes them and makes them 10x better than they ever would be without him

Which is why DMB hasn't released a great album since 1998.

[MistreatedLewis]

hmich just admitted that he thinks I am right

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

DMB writes them and then Lillywhite takes them and makes them 10x better than they ever would be without him

Which is why DMB hasn't released a great album since 1998.

Really? I think BWGGK is a pretty damn good album... If by 10x better you mean songs that only people listen to the live versions of bc the studio sucks compared to the live versions.. then I undestand

There is a reason why BWGGK sounds just as good on the album as they do live... It was THE BAND

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

Really? I think BWGGK is a pretty damn good album... If by 10x better you mean songs that only people listen to the live versions of bc the studio sucks compared to the live versions.. then I undestand

There is a reason why BWGGK sounds just as good on the album as they do live... It was THE BAND

If you think the live versions of the big three are better than the studio tracks in more than like 5% of cases, then you are just blatantly objectively IMO.

And no, BWGGK is good, not great.

[hmich176]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

hmich just admitted that he thinks I am right

Get over your Lillywhite hard on already. That's my point.

[MistreatedLewis]

Hmich: If you think I'm wrong, take the bet.

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

If you think the live versions of the big three are better than the studio tracks in more than like 5% of cases, then you are just blatantly objectively IMO.

And no, BWGGK is good, not great.

I would say the majority of fans think Most of their songs are better live.. Thats why they have such a great reputation for being a live band

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

I would say the majority of fans think Most of their songs are better live.. Thats why they have such a great reputation for being a live band

I would say the majority of DMB Fans have average taste in music, so this is mostly irrelevant.

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

I would say the majority of DMB Fans have average taste in music, so this is mostly irrelevant.

ha ha ha well I would say the majority of DMB fans need to quit living in the past or they are going to be disappointed

Dave said it himself.. " I have no desire to work with anyone else right now"

- talking about cavallo

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

I would say the majority of DMB Fans have average taste in music, so this is mostly irrelevant.

If you honestly think this band was better in the studio with the first 3 than they were live... I think you must be on some serious weed when you listen to those albums

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

ha ha ha well I would say the majority of DMB fans need to quit living in the past or they are going to be disappointed

Dave said it himself.. " I have no desire to work with anyone else right now"

- talking about cavallo

Well, we know Dave's taste in music has become idiotic. He likes Stand Up after all.

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

Well, we know Dave's taste in music has become idiotic. He likes Stand Up after all.

Well yea it's his album


Sounds like your a steve lillywhite fan not a Dave Matthews fan.. I think its time for you to say goodbye

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

If you honestly think this band was better in the studio with the first 3 than they were live... I think you must be on some serious weed when you listen to those albums

I do. And if you honestly think they aren't without some kind of knockdown argument to give to me, I think you are a pretty average person, intellectually and in terms of taste.

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

Well yea it's his album


Sounds like your a steve lillywhite fan not a Dave Matthews fan.. I think its time for you to say goodbye

I'm a fan of DMB, and a much bigger fan of DMB + Lillywhite.

Looks like you'll have to live with me or say goodbye?

[hmich176]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

Hmich: If you think I'm wrong, take the bet.

Of course there are going to be jams. Big Whiskey had jams on it. There will be jams on any given DMB/Lillywhite album because Dave Matthews Band jams out some songs. That's not to say that every song is going to be jammed out like BTCS practically is. That's all I'm saying - Lillywhite might do as many jams on a future album as Cavallo did on Big Whiskey. Hence why I said you should listen to some other Lillywhite albums because he does do other things. Things that could end up on a DMB album in the future. Assuming it were to ever happen. Don't be so short sighted and assume that another Lillywhite album is going to be like the 94-2000 albums.

By the way, you've proven you have a limited taste in music. So where do you come off saying the DMB fan base has an "average taste in music?"

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

I do. And if you honestly think they aren't without some kind of knockdown argument to give to me, I think you are a pretty average person, intellectually and in terms of taste.

Oh I am sorry if I perfer something that rocks instead of something I play when I go to sleep every night... The funny part is the only time I listen to those albums is when I go to bed bc they are soothing.. But they are far from rocking

[MistreatedLewis]

"Of course there are going to be jams" - Hmich176

So your posts before about how there might not be jams now with Lillywhite because they are a different band now looks completely retarded, as do you.

[Jworley98]

This thread has really made me realize how dumb I sound when I get into arguments with people who like music that I hate...

In the end all it is is sound and words... thats all

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

Oh I am sorry if I perfer something that rocks instead of something I play when I go to sleep every night... The funny part is the only time I listen to those albums is when I go to bed bc they are soothing.. But they are far from rocking

I don't know what "rocking" means - I suppose they mean something like tehr renehreygrgy!

I wonder if you'd be willing to (honestly) post your age, IQ, and academic / intellectual credentials?

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

This thread has really made me realize how dumb I sound when I get into arguments with people who like music that I hate...

In the end all it is is sound and words... thats all

In the end, you're just wrong. That's all.

But you are right that, in general, you do sound dumb.

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

I don't know what "rocking" means - I suppose they mean something like tehr renehreygrgy!

I wonder if you'd be willing to (honestly) post your age, IQ, and academic / intellectual credentials?

Sure.. I am sophomore in college. I am studying Biology with a concentration in aquatic biology.. I am going to go to graduate school for marine biology. We had a snow day today!!!!! You my friend need to get a life outside of DMB.. What a joke.

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

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Sure.. I am sophomore in college. I am studying Biology with a concentration in aquatic biology.. I am going to go to graduate school for marine biology. We had a snow day today!!!!! You my friend need to get a life outside of DMB.. What a joke.

Cool. IQ and approximate college ranking? If from a top 25 university, can you post your GPA and any honors scholarship you may have gotten?

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

In the end, you're just wrong. That's all.

But you are right that, in general, you do sound dumb.

"In the end it piles up so tall to one big nothing to one big nothing at all"

In the end you are the reason why so many dmb fans are hated on.. Grow up man. What are you 13? Probably high as fuck?

[hmich176]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

"Of course there are going to be jams" - Hmich176

So your posts before about how there might not be jams now with Lillywhite because they are a different band now looks completely retarded, as do you.

No, all I said was Lillywhite doesn't always do jams in albums he produces and that you should listen to more of his albums other than the three (four) he produced with DMB. I also said that just because they had extended jams on the other albums doesn't mean it's going to happen now. That doesn't change the fact that there might not be these long jams on a future Lillywhite album.

To say that there will be no jams and every song will be three minutes is foolish at best. Hence why I said you're an idiot. Because you are.

Dave Matthews Band IS a different band then what they were 10 years ago. Can't you figure that out yet? Just because Lillywhite steps in doesn't mean things would be all that different.

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

Cool. IQ and approximate college ranking? If from a top 25 university, can you post your GPA and any honors scholarship you may have gotten?

GPA 3.5... I actually just got a letter in my mail box the other day about joining the alumni ambassador honors group they have... Are you even in school or is this all you do everyday?

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

"In the end it piles up so tall to one big nothing to one big nothing at all"

In the end you are the reason why so many dmb fans are hated on.. Grow up man. What are you 13? Probably high as fuck?

No, I'm in my twenties and hold degrees in economics and philosophy from ivy league institutions. I do like to smoke weed on occasion, but not much more than a couple times a year.

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by Jworley98

GPA 3.5... I actually just got a letter in my mail box the other day about joining the alumni ambassador honors group they have... Are you even in school or is this all you do everyday?

Cool. What's your approximate school ranking? IQ?

[hmich176]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

No, I'm in my twenties and hold degrees in economics and philosophy from ivy league institutions. I do like to smoke weed on occasion, but not much more than a couple times a year.

Good for you. This makes you better than anyone else?

[MistreatedLewis]

^ It doesn't make me morally better, but it sure as hell makes me a lot smarter than many other people, yes.

[Jworley98]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

Cool. What's your approximate school ranking? IQ?

I am not sure.. but I do know that it is none of your fucking business. What about you? What the fuck do you do besides being an ass