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Old 03-27-2008, 12:03 PM   #1
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The case for Blue Water

There is no doubt that this new album is viewed by many, including the band members themselves, as a chance to reawaken the ideas and fomulas that have yielded the band's best work. This formula has been a wide range of elements such as personnel (Tim Reynolds) and diverse song selection - mixing some old, with some newer road tested material, with some brand new fresh studio-born tracks.

So here it is, Blue Water Baboon Farm, in all its faded glory - reawakened in the hearts and minds of the band by this very community. Stefan, still to this day, understands the power of the song via his blogs and myspace. So much so that in the walls of that old, defunct building near "the center of the universe" - the song was given new life. So much so that Dave himself has traveled to employ the services of an old friend to keep the song true to its vintage form. Along with other dynamic tunes that will share album space with Blue Water, such as Loving Wings and Shotgun, a very vivid motif has been painted for us of what the new album will be like.
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    Re: The case for Blue Water

    Prove it.
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    It's not going to happen. I promise.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 12:34 PM   #4
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    Re: The case for Blue Water

    No way. I mean don't get me wrong, I'd love to see that beautiful title of "Blue Water" on the back of the new album, but I highly doubt this would ever happen.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 12:38 PM   #5
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    Re: The case for Blue Water

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    There is no doubt that this new album is viewed by many, including the band members themselves, as a chance to reawaken the ideas and fomulas that have yielded the band's best work. This formula has been a wide range of elements such as personnel (Tim Reynolds) and diverse song selection - mixing some old, with some newer road tested material, with some brand new fresh studio-born tracks.

    So here it is, Blue Water Baboon Farm, in all its faded glory - reawakened in the hearts and minds of the band by this very community. Stefan, still to this day, understands the power of the song via his blogs and myspace. So much so that in the walls of that old, defunct building near "the center of the universe" - the song was given new life. So much so that Dave himself has traveled to employ the services of an old friend to keep the song true to its vintage form. Along with other dynamic tunes that will share album space with Blue Water, such as Loving Wings and Shotgun, a very vivid motif has been painted for us of what the new album will be like.
    what the heck does this even mean?
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    Old 03-27-2008, 12:41 PM   #6
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    what the heck does this even mean?
    are you serious?

    Maybe i should have just posted this:

    I think Blue Water has a good shot of being recorded in the studio this current session.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 12:48 PM   #7
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    are you serious?

    Maybe i should have just posted this:

    I think Blue Water has a good shot of being recorded in the studio this current session.
    i'm sorry but what EXACTLY makes you think this?
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    Old 03-27-2008, 12:51 PM   #8
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    are you serious?

    Maybe i should have just posted this:

    I think Blue Water has a good shot of being recorded in the studio this current session.
    Just curious, but whats makes you belive this? The rumour that Dave contacted and a fellow guitart playing friend to contribute to an old song?

    It just seemed, from your op that you had additional "Seattle knowledge" on the subject. Or is this just a shot in the dark, hope on a whim guess?
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    Old 03-27-2008, 01:05 PM   #9
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    Just curious, but whats makes you belive this? The rumour that Dave contacted and a fellow guitart playing friend to contribute to an old song?

    It just seemed, from your op that you had additional "Seattle knowledge" on the subject. Or is this just a shot in the dark, hope on a whim guess?

    its not a whim. i was simply trying to connect the dots with, what i think, is extensive evidence for this to become a reality.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 01:06 PM   #10
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    Re: The case for Blue Water

    Seems like a LOT of leaps of faith. That being said, we'd all of course be beyond thrilled if it were worked on during these sessions.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 01:12 PM   #11
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    Seems like a LOT of leaps of faith. That being said, we'd all of course be beyond thrilled if it were worked on during these sessions.
    for some reason...i have a very, very stong feeling that the topic has been at least discussed at Litho. Maybe by the prompting of Stefan.
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    for WHAT reason is the key. Did you overhear a coffee shop convo? haha
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    I heard Spotlight was going to be on the album too
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    Old 03-27-2008, 01:21 PM   #14
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    for some reason...i have a very, very stong feeling that the topic has been at least discussed at Litho. Maybe by the prompting of Stefan.
    what exactly gives you this feeling???
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    Old 03-27-2008, 01:24 PM   #15
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    for WHAT reason is the key. Did you overhear a coffee shop convo? haha
    it was over a tall cappuccino with derek jeter and alex rodriguez (who are both huge dmb fans)
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    Old 03-27-2008, 01:27 PM   #16
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    what exactly gives you this feeling???
    this guy that works for rob cavallo gave me the feeling.
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    Re: The case for Blue Water

    Speaking of this song I only have one D&T version, so can someone up a good version either D&T or full band for me? Thanks.
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    Speaking of this song I only have one D&T version, so can someone up a good version either D&T or full band for me? Thanks.
    go check out this guys website:

    www.sethsoutherland.com
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    Old 03-27-2008, 02:04 PM   #19
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    Speaking of this song I only have one D&T version, so can someone up a good version either D&T or full band for me? Thanks.
    http://cuppingthesky.org/shared/audio

    i'd grab 1-26-1993
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    hopin you are right kyle- im not gonna get on you for keeping the faith!!!
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    Old 03-27-2008, 02:14 PM   #21
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    hopin you are right kyle- im not gonna get on you for keeping the faith!!!
    amen to that!

    don't shoot the optimistic ones!
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    Old 03-27-2008, 02:15 PM   #22
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    Re: The case for Blue Water

    Didn't dave also say in an interview that he wants to drive away the entire "old" fan base with this next album, and start fresh
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    Old 03-27-2008, 02:21 PM   #23
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    I think that the chances of seeing this song again are extremely slim to none.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 02:56 PM   #24
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    but really...what makes you truly think this? i very much respect you on this site, and i've never seen you just say things for shock value. this said, i would like for you to provide a little more insight into what you're thinking here.

    please?
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    Old 03-27-2008, 03:10 PM   #25
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    but really...what makes you truly think this? i very much respect you on this site, and i've never seen you just say things for shock value. this said, i would like for you to provide a little more insight into what you're thinking here.

    please?
    well, first thank you...and as far as my intend. i have a good friend on here and we talk for hours on end about dmb on the phone, email, etc. We got to discussing if Blue Water was realistic based on the position of the band, knowledge of the songwith the members, current wind direction...hahaha...

    i've really come to think its not out of the question. Heathcliff? Thats out of the question. Blue Water? Well...

    We know that this song is still on their minds, Fonz knows it. And i think the timing is right with the bands career to dive back into their past a bit. I think this album will be a mix of old, very old and new.

    Other than that this thread was just to consider the possibility a bit more deeper than the yes/no/youre a shithead...no youre shithead stuff
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    Like the guy above, I completely agree with you making this thread.

    But, is it your reasoning/opinion supporting this, or have you heard about it from someone who might have a connection to the studio album. I didn't know if "this guy that works for Cavallo gave me the feeling" was sarcastic ...I assumed it might have been, but am not sure.
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    No way. The song is about suicide, really dark lyrics, no way is it coming back.

    And you know what, I don't want to see it back.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 04:50 PM   #28
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    not gonna happen. I absolutely love this song, but it's not going to happen.
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    Old 03-27-2008, 05:03 PM   #29
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    i've really come to think its not out of the question. Heathcliff? Thats out of the question. Blue Water? Well...
    i think the timing is right with the bands career to dive back into their past a bit.
    I follow the logic of this. The fact that its on Fonzi's mind is the only true chance at all. BTW, I've been obsessed w/Heathcliff recently. I wake up every morning with it in my head. (Not that thats a bad thing).
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    Old 03-27-2008, 11:00 PM   #30
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    I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious if you are saying this because of feeling or because you heard something. That's all.
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