Mad Men

[junior94]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Guy who actually created famous Coke Ad stopped watching Mad Men after 2 seasons: http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/18/medi...html?iid=HP_LN

does that guy ever watch much TV at all? Any series that's based in any kind of real specific area of life outside of the most common ones (lawyers, doctors and cops), if it's actually any good of a show it's never directly about that environment itself, to give viewers a lesson of that world or anything. It's always just a backdrop to help provide some context, but ultimately about the characters' lives who inhabit it.

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by junior94

does that guy ever watch much TV at all? Any series that's based in any kind of real specific area of life outside of the most common ones (lawyers, doctors and cops), if it's actually any good of a show it's never directly about that environment itself, to give viewers a lesson of that world or anything. It's always just a backdrop to help provide some context, but ultimately about the characters' lives who inhabit it.

Exactly. The characters and frankly the period were both more important than the advertising environment.

[DaveHead36]

Thought the ending was brilliant. I got so worried as I knew time was running out on the episode and Don is just sitting there being a hippie. The use of the meditation bell ringing as if he's just had a brilliant idea, that sly Don Draper smile and then the song... My wife and I busted out laughing.

I also loved the Stan and Peggy storyline. It was a bit campy the way it was done, but you kinda knew it was the right thing to happen to their characters. Joan was amazing.

All in all I'm left feeling satisfied with the time invested in the show. I think Weiner did a great job wrapping things up. Hell of a series and I'm really sad it's over!

[AJF_41]

just watched finale
agree with a lot of what was said
loved Joan stuff...
Peggy is the engine for the show - slightly cheesy in terms of how it played out -- but that was the "right" ending for her
Betty still smoking
I'll miss the show - great character development start to finish

[Arby]

Still processing the end. Glad Joan ditched money bags for her career. Thats what she wants.

Peggy is awesome. The thing with Stan was odd. Not a huge fan with how that played out. Her phone call with Don was amazing though. "Don. Come home." ::grabs tissue::

Im still thinking about Don's story and how that ended. He has accepted who he is, which is great but I just dont see him suddenly being into the hippie thing. That was a fast adjustment.

[Arby]

Wait am I dumb? Did I miss that Don created the Coke ad? (or at least that was the implication)

Im just now picking up on that

[DaveHead36]

Originally Posted by Arby

Wait am I dumb? Did I miss that Don created the Coke ad? (or at least that was the implication)

Im just now picking up on that

Yes that was the implication. The smile is what gives it all away. You think "oh I guess Don has found 'himself' and inner happiness and peace..." then BAM! No, Don's still the advertising guru at heart, he may have grown but he's always gonna be Don Draper. Loved it!

[junior94]

Originally Posted by Arby

Wait am I dumb? Did I miss that Don created the Coke ad? (or at least that was the implication)

Im just now picking up on that

yay I'm not the only one!! and from a Mod, no less!

Originally Posted by Arby

Peggy... Her phone call with Don was amazing though. "Don. Come home." ::grabs tissue::

yea what I especially loved about that whole scene, it wasn't even some big, overt movement into the crying. They're already well into the phone call, the coverage is on Don, and you cut back to Peggy holding the phone talking, meanwhile you just see the one single tear already halfway down her cheek.

[TheLastStop123]

God I'm going to miss watching these characters. Loved the finale. I think Don went back to being Don. Why would a character (who's acted the same way for basically the entire show), be able to change who he is? I don't buy it, but I'm perfectly fine with it.

[TwoStep2888]

interview with Jon Hamm http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...amm-interview/

[Funkhouser]

I don't get how people didn't pick up on Don making the coke ad. I feel like it couldn't be anymore obvious. Like someone else has said if they showed him getting the gang together to pitch his idea it would have been cheesy, it ended perfect. I remember hearing about this show and thinking there is no way I'd like it but giving it a try because my mom bought the first season on DVD. After the first few episodes I was hooked. Don Draper is one of the greatest characters of all time. Sad to see that it's over. Now I need to find another show to watch.
" I translated it into pig Latin"

" that was a joke"

maybe I'll miss Roger the most.

[SmoothG]

I really liked it. Yeah, I dont understand how people didnt pick pick up the don/coke thing. I liked how they wrapped most of the storylines up. The ending saved don...because his story was becoming a bit meh for me. Cheesy, but I liked peggy and stan. Although I think roger will go down as my favourite. He was awesome!

[Arby]

I had myself thinking that the final shot of the episode would be Don meditating on the slow zoom in, so I convinced myself too soon that thats how the show ended and thats what Don decided for himself. I think that's why I didnt pick up on the Coke thing right away. It just took me a minute.

[Julia Roberts]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I don't get how people didn't pick up on Don making the coke ad. I feel like it couldn't be anymore obvious. Like someone else has said if they showed him getting the gang together to pitch his idea it would have been cheesy, it ended perfect. I remember hearing about this show and thinking there is no way I'd like it but giving it a try because my mom bought the first season on DVD. After the first few episodes I was hooked. Don Draper is one of the greatest characters of all time. Sad to see that it's over. Now I need to find another show to watch.
" I translated it into pig Latin"

" that was a joke"

maybe I'll miss Roger the most.

Look at that rich bastard.

[Julia Roberts]

Originally Posted by TheLastStop123

God I'm going to miss watching these characters. Loved the finale. I think Don went back to being Don. Why would a character (who's acted the same way for basically the entire show), be able to change who he is? I don't buy it, but I'm perfectly fine with it.

Of course he did. The difference would be that Don is now at peace with himself. He probably won't be seeking happiness in the next drink, the next vagina, the next business conquest. For seven seasons Don has been a miserable son-of-a-bitch. But now I think if there were a season eight you would see that smile on Don's face quite often.

[MOWJO8185]

Actually, my favorite part was maybe the part at the retreat where they were told to express to the person next to them how they feel about them without using words and that woman just shoved Don

[junior94]

Originally Posted by Arby

I had myself thinking that the final shot of the episode would be Don meditating on the slow zoom in, so I convinced myself too soon that thats how the show ended and thats what Don decided for himself. I think that's why I didnt pick up on the Coke thing right away. It just took me a minute.

I think this is partly the case for me as well, and coupled with the fact that I sort of got spoiled on that shot from the IMDB. I didn't watch the episode until early yesterday, and when I happened to be on IMDB a little before it, they had that still photo plastered right up on the page. I immediately closed the window in a bit of anger, but the damage was already done. Then, when actually watching it, as soon as the story got to them at the commune, I was like "well, surely that's going to be the very last shot".

[jordanbball17]

Loved the conclusion. I thought the phone call between Don and Betty was incredibly heartbreaking, because it was almost like she and Don were making headway in having an amiable relationship and then she says she only has 6 months to live. They both realize at the same time they'll never see eachother again.

[zajDmB1]

Originally Posted by junior94

does that guy ever watch much TV at all? Any series that's based in any kind of real specific area of life outside of the most common ones (lawyers, doctors and cops), if it's actually any good of a show it's never directly about that environment itself, to give viewers a lesson of that world or anything. It's always just a backdrop to help provide some context, but ultimately about the characters' lives who inhabit it.

I agree with him. I stopped watching Breaking Bad because, as a meth cooker, I didn't think it focussed on the chemistry of making meth enough.

But yea, solid ending. Will miss these characters a lot, too.

Also, thought the phone call with Betty was the best acting she did the entire series. Which helped enormously to make that call even sadder.

[Arby]

The alternate ending we've been hoping for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOzS9Azg0Ag

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Arby

The alternate ending we've been hoping for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOzS9Azg0Ag

[junior94]

Originally Posted by zajDmB1

I agree with him. I stopped watching Breaking Bad because, as a meth cooker, I didn't think it focussed on the chemistry of making meth enough.

But yea, solid ending. Will miss these characters a lot, too.

Also, thought the phone call with Betty was the best acting she did the entire series. Which helped enormously to make that call even sadder.

oh that reminds me of one of the other details I meant to point out: the makeup department on the show did a truly outstanding job on Betty in this. I mean she looked almost unrecognizable. I really wonder like if you took someone who didn't know who January Jones was at all and showed them a photo of what she looks like normally and then a few days later they saw a screen shot of her on that phone call, they wouldn't realize it was the same lady.


as far as the accuracy, I remember hearing Henry Hill once in his many Stern interviews, I forget at which point they were in the Sopranos airing at that time, but him sort of complaining that the show wasn't showing the sort of day to day machinations of mob life as much as he'd wanted.

[junior94]

Jon Hamm's personal take on the ending

http://collider.com/mad-men-finale-j...e-final-scene/


I know I can't get that friggin Coke jingle out of my head now

[recentlyJTR41]

Just finished the show.


That's how how write a finale. Brought a tear to my eye. Took me forever to finish (stopped watching for a couple months) but I must say this was the most fun I've ever had watching a TV show from start to finish on Netflix. Definitely my new favorite drame of all time. Absolutely some of my favorite characters of all time and just never have been able to relate to so many different characters who I would normally not been able to relate to. Fantastic setting, writing, themes, historical context. Could not have written it any better.

[Ascf33]

Nice. What was your favorite episode of the series?

[thebridge15]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

Just finished the show.


That's how how write a finale. Brought a tear to my eye. Took me forever to finish (stopped watching for a couple months) but I must say this was the most fun I've ever had watching a TV show from start to finish on Netflix. Definitely my new favorite drame of all time. Absolutely some of my favorite characters of all time and just never have been able to relate to so many different characters who I would normally not been able to relate to. Fantastic setting, writing, themes, historical context. Could not have written it any better.

greenwald always cites this as the best part of mad men. the fact that at the end of the day, this is essentially a workplace dramedy, and that you just want to hang out with these characters and see what they're up to.

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by Ascf33

Nice. What was your favorite episode of the series?

Having only seen each episode only once so far I would probably say Far Away Places sticks out the most. The fact that Roger Sterling dosed and it helped him out in life was pretty interesting to see from a seemingly straight edge guy (besides the whole being an alcoholic). His wife at the time probably the looked the best in that episode too and that's a plus. Fit in nicely with the 1960's obviously and reinstates that LSD is not just for "hippies" and young people.

The sound editing in that epsiode was top notch. Loved how the symphony started playing as soon as he opened the vodka bottle. Kind of related to that, was probably my favorite and most underrated part of each show. The music and fading to black at the end of each episode. Tomorrow Never Knows and Don't Think Twice It's Alright were my favorites off the top of my head. Reallt capped off each episode nicely.


I'll go back and rewatch the series eventually but I told myself I would get with the rest of the world and watch all the other popular Netflix shows

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

greenwald always cites this as the best part of mad men. the fact that at the end of the day, this is essentially a workplace dramedy, and that you just want to hang out with these characters and see what they're up to.

That's what stuck out the most to me and the character development throughout the whole show. The relationships between the main character's seemed to be more indepth than any other TV show I've really watched.

Don has such deep and meaningful (sometimes) relationships with so many characters. I thought the way Sally grew up and they typical rebelious teenager came out of it was interesting to watch but they made it more detailed. The triangle relationship between Sally and her two divorced parents was very easy to relate to since my parents were divorced. Although it was never that was in real life

[thebridge15]

that's part of what makes rewatching certain episodes so great, is that you can understand and appreciate certain characters' actions or decisions more when you know what ultimately happens to them

it's cool for example looking back at fed up S3 pete when you know all he ends up giving to the company later on

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

that's part of what makes rewatching certain episodes so great, is that you can understand and appreciate certain characters' actions or decisions more when you know what ultimately happens to them

it's cool for example looking back at fed up S3 pete when you know all he ends up giving to the company later on

Pete was a character I didn't like starting off. His whole attitude was such a turn off, but I knew his back ground so it made perfect sense. Peggy was another one that grew on me. Started off annoying but ended up being the glue of the whole show imo.