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Old 04-30-2012, 04:18 PM   #4021
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If you want to increase growth hormone then take growth hormone.
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    Old 04-30-2012, 06:06 PM   #4023
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    A fellow trainer I work with trains with his friend, who happens to be this guy (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ryan...-shredded.html) invited me to join and come work out with them at the local LA Fitness. Pretty stoked.
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    Old 04-30-2012, 07:47 PM   #4025
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    Jimi/Devil, you guys mad?

    if you dont have the patience for us puny losers in here, you should probably rethink the entire concept of participating on a "discussion board"

    I will try to do better fellas!
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    Old 04-30-2012, 07:52 PM   #4026
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    most beefcakes? ok then, if they use it then it must work and increase growth hormone by 500%...

    If you understand what arginine is "supposed" to do and how your body works then you should understand my skepticism.

    basically if you're serious about increasing growth hormone or test then do it the right way...otherwise just eat and lift weights and welcome your natural gains.

    IMO, you are not going to see any true/noticeable benefits from any thing you can buy over the counter at sunflower or whole foods to "supplement" your diet without having your diet in check completely in the first place and even then most of your actual natural gains is basically because you're eating right and have some patience and dedication...

    I'll say that most natural test boosters that are raved about don't have arginine-ornithine as the primary ingredients if you get what I'm saying. I think you should look into some of these if you don't want to go about increasing your test the tried and true method. They will/should/might give you a much better outcome if used correctly
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    If you want to increase growth hormone then take growth hormone.
    so, your opinion is that amino acid supplements dont work in general, or just arginine? What about as a simple NO booster, especially w/ the ornthinine...again, I apologize for not being on your level in here, so feel free to ignore me as I dont want you to waste your obviously precious time... where did you get your molecular biology degree btw?
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    Old 04-30-2012, 08:03 PM   #4027
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    The fuck?

    99% of the supplement industry is shit. You really don't need any of it to grow and meet goals. You can easily get the arginine/orthinine from the foods you eat. Spend your money if you want.
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    The fuck?

    99% of the supplement industry is shit. You really don't need any of it to grow and meet goals. You can easily get the arginine/orthinine from the foods you eat. Spend your money if you want.
    No, I dont want! Thats why I am asking about this stuff...sometimes other humans can have a level of knowledge on particular topics compared with ones self. When we engage these people in conversation we can do something the old mystics referred to as "learning"...I was unaware that "99% of the supplement industry is shit" as I am(as I mentioned) not into these things...Are there any supps you do recommend, a simple, basic regimen for example? For repair and general improved energy?

    I could have swore that half the posts I read in here are related to tubs of products people are buying and trying out...maybe I am hallucinating
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    A fellow trainer I work with trains with his friend, who happens to be this guy (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ryan...-shredded.html) invited me to join and come work out with them at the local LA Fitness. Pretty stoked.
    I actually follow this guy's log... would workout with...
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    No, I dont want! Thats why I am asking about this stuff...sometimes other humans can have a level of knowledge on particular topics compared with ones self. When we engage these people in conversation we can do something the old mystics referred to as "learning"...I was unaware that "99% of the supplement industry is shit" as I am(as I mentioned) not into these things...Are there any supps you do recommend, a simple, basic regimen for example? For repair and general improved energy?

    I could have swore that half the posts I read in here are related to tubs of products people are buying and trying out...maybe I am hallucinating
    The only supplement proven time after time to serve a purpose and actually work is creatine. A simple creatine monohydrate would do the trick. I guess if you consume a good amount of red meat then even the creatine may not be called for.
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    That guy's body proportions are stupid, and not in a good way.
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    I actually follow this guy's log... would workout with...
    I'm looking forward to joining LA and using new equipment for the first time in a few years. Hopefully he's not full of himself and a complete douche
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    That guy's body proportions are stupid, and not in a good way.
    Stupid how/why?
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    Old 04-30-2012, 08:49 PM   #4034
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    The only supplement proven time after time to serve a purpose and actually work is creatine. A simple creatine monohydrate would do the trick. I guess if you consume a good amount of red meat then even the creatine may not be called for.
    I do not eat a lot of red meat...thanks...tried that in high school and dont think I really want to go there again, cant it be bad for kidneys or something?
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    Old 04-30-2012, 08:49 PM   #4035
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    No, I dont want! Thats why I am asking about this stuff...sometimes other humans can have a level of knowledge on particular topics compared with ones self. When we engage these people in conversation we can do something the old mystics referred to as "learning"...I was unaware that "99% of the supplement industry is shit" as I am(as I mentioned) not into these things...Are there any supps you do recommend, a simple, basic regimen for example? For repair and general improved energy?

    I could have swore that half the posts I read in here are related to tubs of products people are buying and trying out...maybe I am hallucinating
    You came at me hard, bro. I had to defend myself.

    Supplement industry is as gimmicky as it gets. Everything is a prop blend full of filler. Nothing is going to give you the results you're going to see from a good diet and lifting program. Diet trumps all. All those amino acids will be in the food you eat. What I would recommend is a whey protein, multi-vitamin, and omega-3 fish oil. If you want to use a pre-w/o supp that's up to you.

    A simple regimen really depends on your goals. Repair of what? A lot of people see an increase in energy just from working out and a healthy diet.
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    I do not eat a lot of red meat...thanks...tried that in high school and dont think I really want to go there again, cant it be bad for kidneys or something?
    Creatine retains water, so if you don't hydrate enough dehydration could be a problem.
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    Not sure where I came at you hard, but anyway, my apologies if it came off that way...anyway, that sounds better, I take a whey, this stuff, let me know if it is shit http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/op...AreferralID=NA along w/ a good natural, whole food multi...dont take fish oil but I eat plenty of fishies...

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    That's what most people use.


    This is a good multi http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/source/life.html
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    How about some favorite foods pre and post workout? Obviously aside from staples like chicken and fish...

    I like to eat some wheat toast/natural peanut butter/organic dark chocolate/banana and a whey drink before...hows that sound?
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    A fellow trainer I work with trains with his friend, who happens to be this guy (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ryan...-shredded.html) invited me to join and come work out with them at the local LA Fitness. Pretty stoked.
    He was 6'0", 135? Good lord that's skinny.

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    That guy's body proportions are stupid, and not in a good way.


    His physique is amazing. What's not proportionate about this: http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img...etlQG786e.jpeg ?
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    That's what most people use.


    This is a good multi http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/source/life.html
    Will keep said multi in mind when I run out of Armor-V.
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    this is the multi I use...http://www.newchapter.com/multi-vitamins/every-man
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    How about some favorite foods pre and post workout? Obviously aside from staples like chicken and fish...

    I like to eat some wheat toast/natural peanut butter/organic dark chocolate/banana and a whey drink before...hows that sound?
    You eat ALL of that pre-workout? That seems like a butt ton to me, but I don't like training full. If you don't feel sick during your workout, that looks fine though in my opinion.
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    How about some favorite foods pre and post workout? Obviously aside from staples like chicken and fish...

    I like to eat some wheat toast/natural peanut butter/organic dark chocolate/banana and a whey drink before...hows that sound?
    Sounds delicious. I like to eat pb&j's on whole wheat bread before.
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    Jimi/Devil, you guys mad?

    if you dont have the patience for us puny losers in here, you should probably rethink the entire concept of participating on a "discussion board"

    I will try to do better fellas!
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    so, your opinion is that amino acid supplements dont work in general, or just arginine? What about as a simple NO booster, especially w/ the ornthinine...again, I apologize for not being on your level in here, so feel free to ignore me as I dont want you to waste your obviously precious time... where did you get your molecular biology degree btw?
    funny...

    I'm not mad...

    amino acids are essentially what protein is made of, but I'm sure you knew that. Basically, they all have potential functions in your body and your body has a limit of how much it can use on a daily basis dependent on many factors. You supplement because you are deficient in some degree or you require more than normal because you aren't the average everyday person(athlete, bodybuilder, what have you). You drink protein shakes, take bcaa because you want to reach a certain macro to ensure you maintain a positive balance in your body for the body composition and activities you want to obtain/maintain. You can get this from food and never supplement if you eat the right amount.(Again, I'm sure you know this. I'm just pointing it out)

    If the molecular biology degree was directed at me I don't have one. I do have a degree in chemistry/biochemistry and have done many years of research on free radicals and specifically nitric oxide and from everything I know/believe/studied/learned ingesting more arginine orally will not give you the effects you "think" you're getting from it that are claimed from NO boosters. To put it bluntly, your body makes a certain amount of nitric oxide for what it needs and does not want any more and has inhibition mechanisms for this reason because higher concentrations of free radicals or reactive oxygen species(Nitric oxide, superoxide, hydroxyl radical, etc) have adverse effects. Ingesting more arginine just doesn't turn them off or make more than normal tolerated concentration from what I've studied. With that said a cocktail of several ingredients(caffeine for example) often found in NO boosters will give you a "pumped, excited, intense" that you're looking for. If that's what you want or need to have a good workout, I see no problem using your money for it it it helps you reach your goals. To each their own...

    If you are eating properly and not "chemically enhanced", you are getting more than enough in my opinion even if you have to have a shake or some bcaa every now and then.

    Secondly, as it pertains to the combination of A-O, just because an article says there was a significantly difference between people taking and not taking doesn't mean it's significant different to actually have an effect on lean muscle growth or muscle growth at all. Also, the time frame in the article just from the abstract is not long enough I would say to actually make a clear conclusion of lean body mass even if the growth hormone was slightly elevated. Abstract also doesn't mention what type of diet all these subjects were on, and it is very important info. Their so called changes in LBM could have come from just a change in diet over those 5 weeks. As I mentioned I would like to actually read the entire article and also know where the source of funding was from. I can't make an personal conclusion unless I read the entire article.

    I'm always willing to discuss... Sorry for the long essay...

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    You eat ALL of that pre-workout? That seems like a butt ton to me, but I don't like training full. If you don't feel sick during your workout, that looks fine though in my opinion.
    well, I usually workout after breakfast, so yea, Ill eat all that then in an hour or so(right before heading to gym I will down the protein drink...it is roughly 750-800 calories...never feel sick, but I have been doing a relatively intense full body workout 3 times a week and feel I need the energy...nothing better than basically eating a healthy version of a reeses peanut butter sandwich every orning and being in better shape then all my friends!lol..then again, I have a tapeworm, his name is "Stevie"
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    You came at me hard, bro. I had to defend myself.

    Supplement industry is as gimmicky as it gets. Everything is a prop blend full of filler. Nothing is going to give you the results you're going to see from a good diet and lifting program. Diet trumps all. All those amino acids will be in the food you eat. What I would recommend is a whey protein, multi-vitamin, and omega-3 fish oil. If you want to use a pre-w/o supp that's up to you.

    A simple regimen really depends on your goals. Repair of what? A lot of people see an increase in energy just from working out and a healthy diet.
    you always say what I want to say in 3 sentences... teach me your ways
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    I'll start ending my posts with /dvlspwn
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    Devil, thanks, that was exactly the post I was looking for earlier! Fantastic info...aaaand Im kind of salty now that I threw out the "molecular biology" thing and you are essentially there

    Great post, very informative.

    Let me know if you ever need any info on 9/11
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