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Old 05-19-2012, 03:58 PM   #1
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Boyd...where is he???

I know this has been discussed in the past but I had high hopes with last night's show. I just listened to a lot of last night's show and I can barely hear him anywhere. Big Eyed Fish doesn't have the great opening lick that he does, He's not even on Mercy, listening to You Never Know and can't hear him at all, aside from his solo on Crush I don't hear him, I think I heard him for about 2 seconds on Grace is Gone during the actual verses and choruses (he used to be so present in that song) now he just has a little mini solo at the end. So unfortunate. Boyd is such an intregal part to the DMB sound and he just seems to have dropped out for some reason. Very sad to me that he just doesn't seem to be much of the DMB sound anymore. Back in the day Boyd would play on anything and I was really hoping that Lillywhite was going to bring him back. Just can't be DMB without Boyd. Maybe it's the recording? But it's a damn good recording so I doubt that. If he IS playing then they need to get their shit together and turn him up. Really hoping we got the return of Boyd in 2012. Here's to hoping we get him back.
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    he's with Rashawn's fat body.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 04:21 PM   #3
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Probably backstage at Dallas, prepping for the show. That's my guess.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 04:24 PM   #4
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Based on the videos I've seen from last night, BT played on all of those songs you mentioned. He hasn't gone anywhere. If anything, based on the studio version of Gaucho we all got yesterday, I'd say he's more present than he has been in a while.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 04:55 PM   #5
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Well then he needs to be turned up. Listen to You Never Know. There's absolutely no Boyd in there.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 04:58 PM   #6
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Listen to the studio version of Gaucho...you'll be pleased.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 05:03 PM   #7
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Boyd's "absence" is just another example of the Band doing something that they want to do with their sound. Just like Tim being so loud. If they wanted Boyd to be more prominent, he would be. Whether we like it or not, there is a reason why Boyd is not as predominant as he once was. Maybe it's his choice? Or MAYBE he just got so fed up with the fans complaining that he is constantly out of tune that he decided he would just back off and be a background player.

    I don't understand some of the comments around here. A lot of y'all complain about how Boyd sounds during shows, and then complain when you can't hear him playing. Which is it? Does he sound awesome live and you want him back? Or is he always out of tune and you're glad you can't hear him. OR is he always out of tune and you want him back?
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    Old 05-19-2012, 05:05 PM   #8
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    I am pleased with studio Gaucho and hope that is the same with the whole album. I stand corrected with Mercy. Just watched the video from the put and Boyd is really playing away while Dave starts on the piano...however you can hear any of it...I don't know, maybe it's the recording? I doubt that though, it's stellar. Or maybe it's just DMBs sound crew. But if he's playing he can't be heard and that needs to change.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 05:14 PM   #9
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    My guess is:
    1. They paid him for being there as a DMB member
    2. They paid him for the whole tour
    3. They allowed him to dress what he wants
    4. He pretends to play and enjoy
    5. Tim does the rest

    And seriously - I'm with you OP. I tried to catch his playing, but he's nowhere. No more Grace solo, no more #41 solo. No Boyd on the new songs. Just Tim, Tim, Tim...

    It's sad.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 05:15 PM   #10
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    I thought he sounded great last night. He's not gonna shine every song. I thought he was particularly good on #41 and Funny the Way It Is as well as the new songs.
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    My guess is:
    1. They paid him for being there as a DMB member
    2. They paid him for the whole tour
    3. They allowed him to dress what he wants
    4. He pretends to play and enjoy
    5. Tim does the rest

    And seriously - I'm with you OP. I tried to catch his playing, but he's nowhere. No more Grace solo, no more #41 solo. No Boyd on the new songs. Just Tim, Tim, Tim...

    It's sad.
    Have you listened to last nights #41? Lol
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    And seriously - I'm with you OP. I tried to catch his playing, but he's nowhere. No more Grace solo, no more #41 solo. No Boyd on the new songs. Just Tim, Tim, Tim...

    It's sad.
    Need more Boyd. Much more.
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    Old 05-19-2012, 05:46 PM   #13
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    He's stage right next to Tim and Carter.
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    Boyd is dead RIP
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    Have you listened to last nights #41? Lol
    You talking about these 2 minutes there? Cool. Add around 50 seconds from Grace, around 2 minutes from Crush, 30 seconds from FTWII.. what else.... Oh, 5 seconds of plucking in BEF and his playing in Grey Street. Daaaaaaaaamn, he played 10 minutes yesterday!!!

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    Boyd's "absence" is just another example of the Band doing something that they want to do with their sound. Just like Tim being so loud. If they wanted Boyd to be more prominent, he would be. Whether we like it or not, there is a reason why Boyd is not as predominant as he once was. Maybe it's his choice? Or MAYBE he just got so fed up with the fans complaining that he is constantly out of tune that he decided he would just back off and be a background player.

    I don't understand some of the comments around here. A lot of y'all complain about how Boyd sounds during shows, and then complain when you can't hear him playing. Which is it? Does he sound awesome live and you want him back? Or is he always out of tune and you're glad you can't hear him. OR is he always out of tune and you want him back?
    Has anyone even seriously complained about this since like 1998?
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    He's stage right next to Tim and Carter.
    damnit I was going to post something similar
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    Has anyone even seriously complained about this since like 1998?
    Are you familiar with 2003?
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    He's in the bathroom....shaving his pubes.
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    he's in the bathroom....shaving his pubes.
    1/10.......
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Absolutely agree Boyd needs to be more prominent. Here's a good example of what we're getting currently. Go to the 3:20 mark and watch Boyd playing, yet, we hear NOTHING.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BCpFrrlLRE
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Was at the houston show and had a lot of questions the OP mentioned, boyd seemed like he was working on getting into it for the first few songs. I was disappointed in his lack of anything on Grace is Gone but thrilled to see him jump in on Crush. Dave and Tim clearly had a "whoa" face on when Boyd went back out to jam some more after he broke a string and swapped his violin (thought it was a broken string at least??).
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    Re: Boyd...where is he???

    Well right now he's probably in Alabama watching some shows at Hangout. Or just hanging with the band backstage.
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    Absolutely agree Boyd needs to be more prominent. Here's a good example of what we're getting currently. Go to the 3:20 mark and watch Boyd playing, yet, we hear NOTHING.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BCpFrrlLRE
    That is strange....someone in the sound crew must really hate Boyd. That's just sad..why is he not being turned up?
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    That is strange....someone in the sound crew must really hate Boyd. That's just sad..why is he not being turned up?
    They don't plug him in anymore, they just let him have fun and think he's special
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    I mean do we really need to hear Boyd saw around on 4 notes in 1st position? He has his moments in crush and tripping billies, otherwise go ahead and turn him down and let me hear Jeff
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    I mean do we really need to hear Boyd saw around on 4 notes in 1st position? He has his moments in crush and tripping billies, otherwise go ahead and turn him down and let me hear Jeff
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