New Dave Matthews Rolling Stone Article

[fonzz41]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

Live band or not, it's still great to have studio recordings of new tunes. Some people don't care to have songs like Crazy Easy or Sugar Will on an album because they can just listen to them on a live release. I would love to have studio versions of those songs (I know many others would too). There's just something special about having studio recordings of songs.

I agree that it's nice to have the studio albums. I like them too. But when you factor in all the costs associated with making an album combined with all the time spent, and then contrast it with the amount of money it could realistically make in today's music world, the process might not sound appealing. Especially for a band that has always preferred the stage to the studio.

[Hilly]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

Maybe I'm way out of the loop, but people don't buy albums anymore? I understand there's pirating music, but that's been going on for close to 15 years now. Granted people aren't going out and buying CDs at Best Buy anymore, but aren't people still buying albums on iTunes and other online sources? Or is the implication that because of sites and applications like Spotify and Pandora people aren't buying albums like they used to?

People under 30 aren't buying albums. Streaming, youtube, and other venues are making the act of putting down $10-15 bucks for an album obsolete.

Which is sad.

Gifting music is going to get harder and harder.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by KevinTH

Live band or not, it's still great to have studio recordings of new tunes. Some people don't care to have songs like Crazy Easy or Sugar Will on an album because they can just listen to them on a live release. I would love to have studio versions of those songs (I know many others would too). There's just something special about having studio recordings of songs.

I'm all for studio songs as a fan. My post was from the band's perspective. As far as the songs you mentioned, I don't care to get a studio version of those unless they are going to play them regularly. If a studio version of Crazy Easy and Sugar Will meant the would be played live with the frequency of Shake Me and You & Me then i'm all for some studio versions.

[KevinTH]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

I'm all for studio songs as a fan. My post was from the band's perspective. As far as the songs you mentioned, I don't care to get a studio version of those unless they are going to play them regularly. If a studio version of Crazy Easy and Sugar Will meant the would be played live with the frequency of Shake Me and You & Me then i'm all for some studio versions.

I hear you. I guess a lot of people imagine there is so much they can do with songs like Sugar Will in the studio. I suppose it isn't worth it if they were just going to half ass it and not add much production value to them. I would just love to hear finished versions. While I enjoy the 2004 versions of Sugar Will (2008 and 2010 versions are just OK) the more I listen to them 11 years later, the more I wish the song had completed lyrics. As I'm getting older I prefer music to have finished lyrics rather than just mindless ramblings.

[somuchtoplay]

If they aren't in a hurry to release a full scale album, I think it would be cool to see a handful of EP's released with like 4 songs per over a series of time. I think the Chili Peppers did something like this in the lead up to the Stadium Arcadium album. One album could have the 2004 songs, one could have the 4 from this summer, and a couple others could have the other few in between.

Could have either just digital or do limited vinyl release or something like that.

[dmb2632]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

DMB is also widely known as a live band and not nearly as much for their studio efforts. If I were in the band i would rather just play whatever new songs they have live and not bother with a studio album.

I'd be okay with that if they actually played the songs they'd been writing. Look at the '04, '06 and other non-album songs that they've written in the past several years that essentially disappeared immediately following their debut.

It's like they've said "Hey, should we play these songs that were very well received that we've had a lot of fun writing on tour / during dinner / over wine? Nah."

[dmb2632]

I primarily listen to live releases / taper pulls and very seldom put on a studio album. The only reason I'd want another album is because they only seem to play new songs with any frequency and keep them around if it's been an album tour.

[NiCK Crush]

Originally Posted by somuchtoplay

If they aren't in a hurry to release a full scale album, I think it would be cool to see a handful of EP's released with like 4 songs per over a series of time. I think the Chili Peppers did something like this in the lead up to the Stadium Arcadium album. One album could have the 2004 songs, one could have the 4 from this summer, and a couple others could have the other few in between.

Could have either just digital or do limited vinyl release or something like that.

I'd love something like this.

And go Cavs.

[jwrice5]

http://youtu.be/E8H-67ILaqc

More guitar on one string than we've seen from Dave in a while.

[always-40]

I for one am glad they're taking their time...if Dave isn't in love with it, it's probably not worth releasing. I can wait until they feel like they have it right.

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by always-40

I for one am glad they're taking their time...if Dave isn't in love with it, it's probably not worth releasing. I can wait until they feel like they have it right.

If Dave isn't in love with it, it means it's probably good.

Look at the songs he loves to play live, "Seven" "Cornbread" "You & Me" "Belly Belly Nice" etc.

Then look at the songs he doesn't love (apparently) "Dreaming Tree" "Spoon" "Pay For What You Get" "Last Stop" "Pig" etc.

[sheldonlevene]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

If Dave isn't in love with it, it means it's probably good.

Look at the songs he loves to play live, "Seven" "Cornbread" "You & Me" "Belly Belly Nice" etc.

Then look at the songs he doesn't love (apparently) "Dreaming Tree" "Spoon" "Pay For What You Get" "Last Stop" "Pig" etc.

Preach

[baileyk114]

Originally Posted by always-40

I for one am glad they're taking their time...if Dave isn't in love with it, it's probably not worth releasing. I can wait until they feel like they have it right.

But for all we know, what they have right now could be a masterpiece haha. All kidding aside, Dave does have a tendency to hate his better songs and love his cheesier ones.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by baileyk114

But for all we know, what they have right now could be a masterpiece haha. All kidding aside, Dave does have a tendency to hate his better songs and love his cheesier ones.

While I can totally understand having a hard time writing about apartheid or Julia Grey at this point you would think Dave would still be able to come up with songs the way he approached DDTW. There are so many historical and current topics he could write about that would make for interesting songs as opposed to singing derka derka and about licking from your back to your belly at shows in front of his kids.

[space_raven]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

While I can totally understand having a hard time writing about apartheid or Julia Grey at this point you would think Dave would still be able to come up with songs the way he approached DDTW. There are so many historical and current topics he could write about that would make for interesting songs as opposed to singing derka derka and about licking from your back to your belly at shows in front of his kids.

I think that's what Dave's going for with Black and Blue Bird, Death on the High Seas, and Virginia in the Rain. But most people, at least on Ants, don't like those songs.

[bowa36]

Originally Posted by space_raven

I think that's what Dave's going for with Black and Blue Bird, Death on the High Seas, and Virginia in the Rain. But most people, at least on Ants, don't like those songs.

Because they don't have TEH ENERGIEEEEZZZ! It's a total snoozefest live bro! I need to dance around and scream at the top of my lungs during a song! Not fall asleep to boring quiet songs!!!

[space_raven]

Originally Posted by bowa36

Because they don't have TEH ENERGIEEEEZZZ! It's a total snoozefest live bro! I need to dance around and scream at the top of my lungs during a song! Not fall asleep to boring quiet songs!!!

Yeah, it's a bizarre dichotomy.

[bowa36]

VITR and B&BB are superb, hope they make the album. Need more tunes like that.

[space_raven]

Originally Posted by bowa36

VITR and B&BB are superb, hope they make the album. Need more tunes like that.

I concur 100%. I really like DotHS too.

[coolhotwaves]

Virginia is a really good tune, could really develop live.

[cornnuts]

Originally Posted by Hilly

People under 30 aren't buying albums. Streaming, youtube, and other venues are making the act of putting down $10-15 bucks for an album obsolete.

Which is sad.

Gifting music is going to get harder and harder.

why is it sad?

[blaise34]

Rolling stone has always been political, not surprised at all politics got brought up in an interview with Dave. And its not the bottom feeding trash mag some of you want to make it out to be. Read some of Matt Taibbi's work, among others.

[RSSR]

DMB will always have a spot in my shopping cart for concert and album CDs, maybe not so much for most anyone else.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by space_raven

I think that's what Dave's going for with Black and Blue Bird, Death on the High Seas, and Virginia in the Rain. But most people, at least on Ants, don't like those songs.

Yeah you are right on that and it's been good to see, I really like the new batch except for Be Yourself, hopefully it's a new trend that continues. I couldn't care less about a song having to have energy.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by blaise34

Rolling stone has always been political, not surprised at all politics got brought up in an interview with Dave. And its not the bottom feeding trash mag some of you want to make it out to be. Read some of Matt Taibbi's work, among others.

If they had a shred of credibility before, they lost it all with the UVA story. I try not to read them, but saw this article with DM so I gave it a chance again. I will not in the future.

[DMB1983]

The energy on the new songs is very much indeed lacking. I also miss the metaphorical writing that Dave was known for.
Songs like Be Yourself, Virginia in the Rain, Black and Bluebirds have no mystery to them and not really up to interpretation. As much as I love Drunken Soldier, it's just a straightforward song. It's not really bad writing, it's just my opinion on how the songwriting style has changed.
I guess I'm going to keep my expectations to a minimum for a new album, if we get one at all. If they don't believe a studio album is a valid work of art, or sellable product, I don't see a lot of drive to complete one.
I don't understand Dave's comment about it, it's probably not the whole idea considering he operates one of the more successful labels and hasn't given up on it.

[Hilly]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

If they had a shred of credibility before, they lost it all with the UVA story. I try not to read them, but saw this article with DM so I gave it a chance again. I will not in the future.

Unless there's another DMB article.

[Hilly]

Originally Posted by cornnuts

why is it sad?

There's something to be said for an album experience, that's lost with youtube/streaming, and the general shift to music being more disposable.

And again, the act of gifting music losing value.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by Hilly

Unless there's another DMB article.

Haha. Most likely.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by Hilly

There's something to be said for an album experience, that's lost with youtube/streaming, and the general shift to music being more disposable.

And again, the act of gifting music losing value.

Ya! No one even wants CDs for gifts now. It's not cool to hand out an itunes gift card unless you know they are a music nut or a 14 year old girl.