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Old 02-27-2008, 07:15 AM   #1
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Its very simple...

Put out an album that looks like this:

A Dream So Real
Cornbread
JTR
Sweet Up And Down
Blue Water
#27
Monkey Man
Crazy Easy
Sugar Will
Eh Hee
Shotgun
Loving Wings

Fans will love this album because its sick and it will buy them more time to work on totally new stuff.

That way they can put out another album shortly after and act like a band that isnt in retirement.

The Eagles come out with albums more frequently.
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    Re: Its very simple...

    Is this topic really necessary I've seen so many of the same damn track listings, I'm about to puke

    Don't you think the band has "bought" enough time by this point? More like "wasted" if you ask me ;-)
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    Old 02-27-2008, 09:05 AM   #3
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    Re: Its very simple...

    why on earth does anyone think they'd record Blue Water at this stage of the game?!?!?
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    Old 02-27-2008, 11:44 AM   #4
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    Are we allowed to have at least 1 song we've never heard? Personally I'd be upset if at least 1/2 to 3/4 of the album is not new
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    Old 02-27-2008, 01:16 PM   #5
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    Re: Its very simple...

    Throw

    crazy easy
    suad
    sugar will
    shotgun
    loving wings
    #27
    dream so real

    and a few new ones. Then Id be very happy.
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    Throw

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    suad
    sugar will
    shotgun
    loving wings
    #27
    dream so real

    and a few new ones. Then Id be very happy.
    perfect, exactly what i would say
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    Old 02-27-2008, 01:32 PM   #7
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    Re: Its very simple...

    I don't want the band to record old songs they've overlooked in the past for one reason or another; I want them to show us where they stand now and record new material. Now's not the time for an obscurities compilation.
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    Old 02-27-2008, 01:34 PM   #8
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    people really need to get over Blue Water....its not going to happen
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    Are we allowed to have at least 1 song we've never heard? Personally I'd be upset if at least 1/2 to 3/4 of the album is not new
    same here
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    Old 02-27-2008, 04:29 PM   #10
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    Re: Its very simple...

    Honestly, I would like them to just work on new stuff. We've already heard all of these songs and have Soundboard versions of almost all of them. So I know what they sound like. I'd perfer more new songs, even if I don't end up liking them.
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    Old 02-27-2008, 05:46 PM   #11
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    Honestly, I would like them to just work on new stuff. We've already heard all of these songs and have Soundboard versions of almost all of them. So I know what they sound like. I'd perfer more new songs, even if I don't end up liking them.
    that makes absolutely no sense. why would you rather have songs you do not like then older songs that have been perfected in the studio? dmbs best songs with very few exceptions take a while to cook and be ready. or maybe they felt some older songs they loved did not fit with the album they recorded at the time.

    i for one would rather all old songs if they were excellent versions and not just run throughs of songs like Busted Stuff, then new songs that suck.

    sound board versions are not studio versions. dmb could do amazing things with songs they never chose to record. think of a studio recently.

    i'm not saying go record all old songs. i am saying record the best songs you have right now and if some are old so be it. i'm not asking blue water old because quite frankly i don't think boyd could create a solo these days that the song deserves. i just think they should not so easily forget songs like Monkey Man, SUAD, Sugar Will, Crazy Easy, Loving Wings, Light Lift Me Up, Shotgun, that new soundcheck, JTR, #40, #36, Get In Line, Cornbread and some others from 04 and 06.

    just try to wrap your brain around an album with songs like that. an album like that would crack the top 3 easily before.

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    Old 02-27-2008, 06:05 PM   #12
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    that makes absolutely no sense. why would you rather have songs you do not like then older songs that have been perfected in the studio? dmbs best songs with very few exceptions take a while to cook and be ready. or maybe they felt some older songs they loved did not fit with the album they recorded at the time.

    i for one would rather all old songs if they were excellent versions and not just run throughs of songs like Busted Stuff, then new songs that suck.

    sound board versions are not studio versions. dmb could do amazing things with songs they never chose to record. think of a studio recently.

    i'm not saying go record all old songs. i am saying record the best songs you have right now and if some are old so be it. i'm not asking blue water old because quite frankly i don't think boyd could create a solo these days that the song deserves. i just think they should not so easily forget songs like Monkey Man, SUAD, Sugar Will, Crazy Easy, Loving Wings, Light Lift Me Up, Shotgun, that new soundcheck, JTR, #40, #36, Get In Line, Cornbread and some others from 04 and 06.

    just try to wrap your brain around an album with songs like that. an album like that would crack the top 3 easily before.
    Right and this makes sense until they record and people don't like what they do with them in the studio and everyone bitches about it.

    I don't understand why you would want these songs on the album when they are played at almost every show right now. Why not get an entire new set of 12 songs instead of getting a studio version of recent mediocre songs.

    Yes, the band created almost all new songs for Stand Up...but they created almost all new songs on BTCS too.
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    perfect, exactly what i would say
    Its a shame it looks like we'll never see Sugar Will, or Crazy Easy.
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    I don't want the band to record old songs they've overlooked in the past for one reason or another; I want them to show us where they stand now and record new material. Now's not the time for an obscurities compilation.
    While I kinda agree with that, I'd really love to see SUAD, loving wings, and maybe JTR/Monkey Man make the new album.
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    No more pooping out albums! I'd rather the band take their time and make something good.
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    No more pooping out albums! I'd rather the band take their time and make something good.
    the last album came out almost 3 years ago...UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS were all separated by two years each. what about this process do you feel they're "pooping out"?
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    the last album came out almost 3 years ago...UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS were all separated by two years each. what about this process do you feel they're "pooping out"?
    the albums or "turds" you forgot to mention, but i suppose that was more a case of the shits rather than pooping.
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    Old 02-27-2008, 07:19 PM   #18
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    Old 02-27-2008, 07:33 PM   #19
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    Throw

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    sugar will
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    #27
    dream so real

    and a few new ones. Then Id be very happy.
    would be a good album with new songs that were decent...they dont even need to be great....but i mean they will be im confident
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    am I the only one who will be very VERY sad if A Dream SO Real is on the album...I really dislike the tune...a lot...
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    A Dream So Real
    Cornbread
    Sweet Up And Down
    #27
    Shotgun
    Loving Wings
    I took out the songs that more than likely will not make it onto the album.

    Conclusion: They need to (and will/are/have) write more songs.
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    that makes absolutely no sense. why would you rather have songs you do not like then older songs that have been perfected in the studio? dmbs best songs with very few exceptions take a while to cook and be ready. or maybe they felt some older songs they loved did not fit with the album they recorded at the time.

    i for one would rather all old songs if they were excellent versions and not just run throughs of songs like Busted Stuff, then new songs that suck.

    sound board versions are not studio versions. dmb could do amazing things with songs they never chose to record. think of a studio recently.

    i'm not saying go record all old songs. i am saying record the best songs you have right now and if some are old so be it. i'm not asking blue water old because quite frankly i don't think boyd could create a solo these days that the song deserves. i just think they should not so easily forget songs like Monkey Man, SUAD, Sugar Will, Crazy Easy, Loving Wings, Light Lift Me Up, Shotgun, that new soundcheck, JTR, #40, #36, Get In Line, Cornbread and some others from 04 and 06.

    just try to wrap your brain around an album with songs like that. an album like that would crack the top 3 easily before.
    I agree with this guy/girl! Except the part about Busted Stuff, because it is a fantastic fucking album. If the new album has nothing pre-2006, I will be disappointed, but maybe I will still like it; maybe I will even love it. But why not give some great songs a chance in the studio? It has worked out in the past. (Although I do not support JTR being on the new album because it was already perfected on the LWS - top 3 studio song for me!)
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    Old 02-27-2008, 10:20 PM   #23
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    the last album came out almost 3 years ago...UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS were all separated by two years each. what about this process do you feel they're "pooping out"?

    they had a lot of (if not all) the songs for UTTAD and Crash before they ever started in the studio. they basically had 4 years to work on BTCS material. they may have created everything in the studio, but they could have had ideas for stuff that they were just waiting for a time to use them.


    and i believe the "pooping" is meant in the literal shitting sense of the last few albums being pretty crappy.
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    Re: Its very simple...

    Its not that simple actually...


    JTR/Sweet up and down are pretty much already released and are awesome

    the '04 songs like good good time, crazy easy and sugar will are gonna have a hard time making it after all this time...

    its gonna be maybe 4 songs we've already heard and a bunch of new songs that are awesome... the band knows whats up...


    stand up and everyday are not comparable to uttad, crash and btcs... but they are not as bad as everyone thinks...

    dmb are gonna pull out another album like the top 3... im confident
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    I want songs I haven't heard..
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    Screw bringing dead songs back from the grave. I want an album that reflects where the band is in 2008 and I'm sure that's the band's main goal as well. If some people don't like how that works out, well life goes on and no-one is putting a gun to anyone's head to continue to support this band.
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    What I want to know is why bands only put like 12 songs on an album when they still have like 20 minutes of cd time available. Add some more songs. They could easily have IOY, Shotgun, Eh Hee, Cornbread, #27, SUAD, and 8 brand spankin new songs.
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    Exactly. Compare what albums he's on to the ones that he is not on. He makes a huge difference.
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    Put out an album that looks like this:

    A Dream So Real
    Cornbread
    JTR
    Sweet Up And Down
    #27
    Crazy Easy
    Sugar Will
    Eh Hee
    Shotgun
    Loving Wings
    Produced the right way, this would be the greatest album the band has ever done. I got rid of Blue Water and Monkey Man because I'd say they have virtually no shot.
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