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Old 06-27-2013, 09:37 AM   #19111
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At least the free agent class is getting better with all these buyouts.

Sadly for part of July 5th I'll be driving to a wedding weekend. Better keep that phone charged for constant twitter checking.
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    Flyers will sign Vinny to a 5 year/35M deal. That's how we roll.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 09:52 AM   #19113
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    If the Hawks trade Bolland, I'm boycotting the 2013-2014 season.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 10:19 AM   #19115
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    If the Hawks trade Bolland, I'm boycotting the 2013-2014 season.
    Thoughts on why they are shopping him? With all the RFA's next summer trying to get something for him now so he doesn't walk for nothing?
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    I want to see Bolland get traded just to see Chris' epic meltdown in here.
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    Ugh. Supposedly there's an agreement for the Yotes to stay...
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    Old 06-27-2013, 10:44 AM   #19118
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    Ugh. Supposedly there's an agreement for the Yotes to stay...
    Where'd you see it? Last I read was it was still a big toss up. Council members seemed very hesitant. The person I've thoroughly enjoyed following now is https://twitter.com/cmorganfoxaz
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    Old 06-27-2013, 10:46 AM   #19119
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    Where'd you see it? Last I read was it was still a big toss up. Council members seemed very hesitant. The person I've thoroughly enjoyed following now is https://twitter.com/cmorganfoxaz
    Here is the lease agreement;
    http://www.glendaleaz.com/documents/...16_6062713.pdf

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    I want to see Bolland get traded just to see Chris' epic meltdown in here.
    Pretty much this... It would be more than a trade... it would be the breaking up of the biggest bromance this thread has seen (except for maybe me and Foote).

    If it happens, we're there for you, Chris.
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    Here is the lease agreement;
    http://www.glendaleaz.com/documents/...16_6062713.pdf

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    Still needs to be voted on and that is just one of the many concerns for Glendale. We'll see.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 10:54 AM   #19122
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    Good Lord... just let this Phoenix thing end. It hasn't worked, it isn't working, and it's not going to work. I'm all for expansion and introducing hockey to non-hockey markets (i.e., Nashville), but the Phoenix experiment has proven time and time again that it's not a good fit. Get them out of there.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 10:59 AM   #19123
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    If board of governors don't pull the plug today and then the vote fails on Tuesday it would just be another wtf moment for this whole thing.

    If there were signs of the team doing ok, ie Nashville and Tampa, then fine but there hasn't been any signs of hope and the fact it's taken 4 years to even get to here is sad. It's embarassing to watch games in Phoenix. I mean it's like watching a neutral site game when you see the big teams come into town.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 11:13 AM   #19124
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    Thoughts on why they are shopping him? With all the RFA's next summer trying to get something for him now so he doesn't walk for nothing?
    No, I don't think it's that.

    I think it's a combination of things. He is paid as a 2nd line center, has been expected to grow into that 2C role, and just hasn't quite ever done it. So I think they are (this is my hope) just testing the waters to see what kind of return he would fetch. I think it's posturing, not necessarily a real intention to trade him. Bolly isn't just a perfect fit at his position on a team short on centers, but he's also an incredible locker room guy with this group, which I think is a HUGE thing not talked about with why the Hawks succeeded this year and not in the past 2 years. It took a while to replace the character of the locker room with guys with huge personalities like Big Buff, Versteeg, Burish, etc. Bolland is a huge glue into the personality of the Blackhawks.

    Only other route I can see other than just testing the waters, is that Bowman has another move up his sleeve to get a legit 2C. The team is just so short on legit centers that Bolland simply can't move unless there's a follow up plan. Bowman isn't dumb enough to think Pirri, Shaw, and Kruger are enough to make another Cup run. So unless there's a legit 2C in the works and Bowman just wants to clear up cap space, I don't see this happening.

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    Pretty much this... It would be more than a trade... it would be the breaking up of the biggest bromance this thread has seen (except for maybe me and Foote).

    If it happens, we're there for you, Chris.
    You both just crossed the line.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 11:15 AM   #19125
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    No, I don't think it's that.

    I think it's a combination of things. He is paid as a 2nd line center, has been expected to grow into that 2C role, and just hasn't quite ever done it. So I think they are (this is my hope) just testing the waters to see what kind of return he would fetch. I think it's posturing, not necessarily a real intention to trade him. Bolly isn't just a perfect fit at his position on a team short on centers, but he's also an incredible locker room guy with this group, which I think is a HUGE thing not talked about with why the Hawks succeeded this year and not in the past 2 years. It took a while to replace the character of the locker room with guys with huge personalities like Big Buff, Versteeg, Burish, etc. Bolland is a huge glue into the personality of the Blackhawks.

    Only other route I can see other than just testing the waters, is that Bowman has another move up his sleeve to get a legit 2C. The team is just so short on legit centers that Bolland simply can't move unless there's a follow up plan. Bowman isn't dumb enough to think Pirri, Shaw, and Kruger are enough to make another Cup run. So unless there's a legit 2C in the works and Bowman just wants to clear up cap space, I don't see this happening.
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    If you guys are ordering any gear on nhl.com enter promo code 'NHLE' (all caps) to get a 30% off employee discount and free shipping.

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    Making room for Bickell??
    If that's the case, then I will SERIOUSLY boycott the season.

    I just threw up.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 11:31 AM   #19128
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    If board of governors don't pull the plug today and then the vote fails on Tuesday it would just be another wtf moment for this whole thing.

    If there were signs of the team doing ok, ie Nashville and Tampa, then fine but there hasn't been any signs of hope and the fact it's taken 4 years to even get to here is sad. It's embarassing to watch games in Phoenix. I mean it's like watching a neutral site game when you see the big teams come into town.
    So embarrassing. I mean I know the vote still has to happen. But it seems like they're moving forward in the wrong direction. If that makes sense.....
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    Old 06-27-2013, 11:35 AM   #19129
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    So embarrassing. I mean I know the vote still has to happen. But it seems like they're moving forward in the wrong direction. If that makes sense.....
    Oh that does make sense. If nothing from the BOG today then July 2nd we'll know for sure. I think it gets done for them to stay, I hate to say it. There is an out-cause that lets them pull the plug if they lose $50mil or more over 5 years. Good chance that happens and then we're moving them anyways....
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    i love Dave Bolland, he'll always have a place in my heart.

    However, this makes perfect sense. he is paid like a 2C who was playing on the 4th line in the playoffs. The cap is tight, and I would much rather resign Kruger and Leddy comfortably than keep Bolland around, if that was my choice.
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    His value is high right now, aren't sure if he'll stay past next year, got a big cap hit for what he does, and you've got guys coming along and a few RFA's this year and next. I get it.
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    Shut up! All of you!
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    So Vinny grew up a Wings fan huh?
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    i love Dave Bolland, he'll always have a place in my heart.

    However, this makes perfect sense. he is paid like a 2C who was playing on the 4th line in the playoffs. The cap is tight, and I would much rather resign Kruger and Leddy comfortably than keep Bolland around, if that was my choice.
    I agree with you.
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    Old 06-27-2013, 12:50 PM   #19136
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    Guys, show a little sensitivity, eh? This is a difficult situation for our friend.
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    I'm avoiding this thread until Dave Bolland is signed to a 8 year extension.
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    Vinny would be a great addition to the Leafs. They could buy out Grabo and not sign back Bozak and boom. Problems solved. They would then spend all of their money bolstering that D group. Oh Man what a deal.

    I'd give vinny a two year 5 million dollar deal. Then he can go finish his career in Tampa.
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    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rl2b7s

    What a cluster f**k this is. Keep waiting for the BOG meetings wrap up to occur to find out what the league is going to say on this. My guess is we won't hear anything until the vote on Tuesday and I have a bad feeling it'll pass. Hope I'm wrong. Sorry to any fans of the Coyotes, even if it's just 100 of them, but time to take them out back and shoot em.
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    Vinny wants a "long term deal"
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