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Old 08-15-2009, 09:21 AM   #121
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It seems like the more I listen to the album, the more mediocre I feel it is. Other than Squirm, Baby Blue, LITHOG, and Shake Me, I really don't listen to much of it anymore. A lot of times it takes a while to really make a judgement on an album, and I think with more listens BW is settling into a position just above Everyday for me and miles behind the Big 3... Not trying to flame, just my thoughts...
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    LMAO.

    It was only a matter of time. Hilarious.
    What's your current opinion of the album?

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    Old 08-15-2009, 09:46 AM   #123
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    Re: Is Big Whiskey getting worse to anyone else?

    still love it. and it is getting better in many ways the more I hear and get to know the songs.
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    Old 08-15-2009, 04:14 PM   #124
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    It keeps getting better for me everytime I listen to it and it's making me so happy to finally have a new DMB album that achieves this. I really think this album is great. I'm not saying it's equal to the big three but I don't really feel like I need to compare it to those albums because it's so different. With that being said I have to disagree with what someone said in another thread about the LWS sessions being so much better than Big Whiskey. I think if you really think about it the LWS isn't as good as the Big 3 and if you go on to compare the LWS to BW either one could be better depending on your mood. At least that's how it is for me. Anyone else agree?
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    My only complaint is the lack of length on some of the tracks. Time Bomb could have been immensely better if they added Tim's solo into the studio version. Also, I think they could have incorporated the opening riff back into the song somewhere.

    The lack of Boyd is crazy, especially after hearing him play on some of the songs live. I mean, does anyone have any idea how that happened? He's just not there in the studio, but kicks ass live. How does that happen?

    You and Me sucks. Its terrible. Only song I can't listen to.

    Big Whiskey is better than Busted Stuff, but falls short of the Big 3. Some of it's songs are Big 3 quality though, just not the whole album. It comes second in plays behind crash for me.

    Its a good album. I don't see how people don't like it.
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    It's getting better for me with every listen.

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    My only complaint is the lack of length on some of the tracks. Time Bomb could have been immensely better if they added Tim's solo into the studio version. Also, I think they could have incorporated the opening riff back into the song somewhere.
    I agree with you 300% on most everything you said, but I felt the need to highlight this particular segment. Why was the "that pace" song transformed into Time Bomb? They're completely independent. I love Time Bomb as well as the next person, but I feel it was a really sad waste of a great song concept to incorporate the pace segment in the beginning.
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    Old 08-16-2009, 11:53 AM   #128
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    Re: Is Big Whiskey getting worse to anyone else?

    I was one of the few that didn't understand all the love for this album when it came out. That said, I still don't see it. Really IMO only 2-3 good songs on the whole album. Haven't listened to it since June and don't even really feel the need. Just so much filler and mediocre songs. Honestly I think I prefer ED over this album.
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    Old 08-16-2009, 03:10 PM   #129
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    I was one of the few that didn't understand all the love for this album when it came out. That said, I still don't see it. Really IMO only 2-3 good songs on the whole album. Haven't listened to it since June and don't even really feel the need. Just so much filler and mediocre songs. Honestly I think I prefer ED over this album.
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    Old 08-16-2009, 03:20 PM   #130
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    Re: Is Big Whiskey getting worse to anyone else?

    BWGK is a great album, no doubt. But imo they could have added a bunch of parts to most of the songs:

    Little boyd riffs in LITHOG
    turn up Tim in WIA
    Boyd during Dive In
    RaShawn solo in middle of Spaceman
    More BT during Alligator Pie, maybe a little breakdown
    Tim solo in Time Bomb
    maybe a little percussion in Baby Blue.....maybe
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    I feel really bad for you.

    I wish you could see the light!!!
    Don't worry about it. I am not really that concerned about it. I'll stick with the classic DMB.
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    Old 08-17-2009, 12:11 PM   #132
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    Re: Is Big Whiskey getting worse to anyone else?

    Big Whiskey has greater staying power than Everyday and Stand Up. Hands down.

    I went to the first Giants Stadium show in '01 after enjoying three INCREDIBLE '00 shows and, quite frankly, the bad taste from listening to ED soured my experience at this gig (and my entire '01 tour experience, for that matter, seeing as how every set was in promotion of a clunker of an album); so much so, I didn't go to another DMB show until '06.

    And with a set laden with garbage SU tracks at the Scranton show I attended (Hunger, American Baby, Bayou encore), I was left, perhaps, with an even worse taste (consider that I didn't attend a single '05 show knowing how SU-heavy the sets would be).

    Then, I attended the Bethel Woods show, my first in three years, and, despite a set that had 10 BW songs in it (none of which, I felt, weighed down the show), I was none too disappointed. In my opinion, the majority of the BW tracks translate well to the live setting. That sold the album for me.

    I constantly tried to fool myself into thinking ED and SU were good albums, simply because they were DMB records, but I just couldn't do it. I never had to sell myself on thinking BW was a good album...it only took one listen to decide that for myself. And the album has only grown on me more with time. As I felt BW was superior to ED and SU, I gave each of them a listen just to prove this notion to be true...and I was right: SU took the best part of the band out of the equation (Carter) and ED is just a synthed-out piece of trash, putting them at the very bottom of the DMB catalogue (which is clearly the consensus here).

    Does BW stand up against the "Big 3?" Not at all...but it's still a quality album that has been in heavy rotation for me since its release. To call it "mediocre" and "pedestrian" is off-base.
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    Big Whiskey has greater staying power than Everyday and Stand Up. Hands down.

    I went to the first Giants Stadium show in '01 after enjoying three INCREDIBLE '00 shows and, quite frankly, the bad taste from listening to ED soured my experience at this gig (and my entire '01 tour experience, for that matter, seeing as how every set was in promotion of a clunker of an album); so much so, I didn't go to another DMB show until '06.

    And with a set laden with garbage SU tracks at the Scranton show I attended (Hunger, American Baby, Bayou encore), I was left, perhaps, with an even worse taste (consider that I didn't attend a single '05 show knowing how SU-heavy the sets would be).

    Then, I attended the Bethel Woods show, my first in three years, and, despite a set that had 10 BW songs in it (none of which, I felt, weighed down the show), I was none too disappointed. In my opinion, the majority of the BW tracks translate well to the live setting. That sold the album for me.

    I constantly tried to fool myself into thinking ED and SU were good albums, simply because they were DMB records, but I just couldn't do it. I never had to sell myself on thinking BW was a good album...it only took one listen to decide that for myself. And the album has only grown on me more with time. As I felt BW was superior to ED and SU, I gave each of them a listen just to prove this notion to be true...and I was right: SU took the best part of the band out of the equation (Carter) and ED is just a synthed-out piece of trash, putting them at the very bottom of the DMB catalogue (which is clearly the consensus here).

    Does BW stand up against the "Big 3?" Not at all...but it's still a quality album that has been in heavy rotation for me since its release. To call it "mediocre" and "pedestrian" is off-base.
    This is a quality post here.
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    Old 08-17-2009, 12:33 PM   #134
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    RaShawn solo in middle of Spaceman
    This is the biggest crime on Big Whiskey IMO. Spaceman is infinitely better live with Jeff's fills and Rashawn's solo. Other than that, I love Big Whiskey
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    Big Whiskey has greater staying power than Everyday and Stand Up. Hands down. - Then a bunch of other, very wise words.
    100% right on. Couldn't have said it better.
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    Old 08-23-2009, 02:55 AM   #136
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    Re: Is Big Whiskey getting worse to anyone else?

    I still like it as much as the first time I heard it, but I do skip around a lot more then i used to. I mostly listen to it during my last work hour of the day. Still place it above Everyday but below the big 3 and Busted Stuff
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    Old 08-23-2009, 03:50 AM   #137
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    everytime I listen to it - it makes me feel something new. All the time I hear all kinds of little nuances. love it wholly, completely.
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    Old 08-27-2009, 10:25 PM   #138
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    I went to listen to it the other day. Ended up skipping most of the songs entirely or part way through. Some good songs, but mostly just mediocre.
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    Nope, not at all. I think it's progressively becoming my favorite album. Just listening to Seven makes me smile ... Squirm makes me think ... Shake Me makes me move ... it's an amazing feeling listenin to this album ...
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    Old 08-28-2009, 12:12 AM   #140
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    not really, just tweaked the playlist. its best w/ beach ball after funny... you n me stripped down "april version" after dive in... and then cut the real you and me to just #35, the whole time bomb - baby blue - #35 is a nice closure for leroi and the band...
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    its getting better for me. i hated squirm on first listen but its at least in the top 2 on the album right now.
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    Re: Is Big Whiskey getting worse to anyone else?

    not as good as there other albums, but i thought of this the first time i heard it.
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    not as good as there other albums, but i thought of this the first time i heard it.
    Excluding Stand Up, you mean.
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    i havent listened to the album in awhile. i stick to live stuff.

    i still enjoy it. its refreshing after the disaster stand up was.
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    Still love the album. I mostly stick to live music but I do listen to the album at least once a week. Very solid album!
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    Don't worry about it. I am not really that concerned about it. I'll stick with the classic DMB.
    Given time, this will be "classic DMB." After all, the big 3 were hardly "classic" at the time of their release.
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    I'd say don't stress it over this album. Listen to what satisfies you.

    Other side comments:
    Too much credit to producers. Put it on the band. Sure, if you want someone to "make 'em shine," then the producer will do that. However, the quality of solely the songs, is on the band (music & lyrics). The one thing about artists is that they can always be working. It's a lifestyle. Periods of rest are important, otherwise you burn the candle at both ends, but each member can always be working on a new idea. Dave can keep a journal. Simple shit.

    Making an album is a commitment, like any other artistic undertaking. Either you have a good idea going into it, or you're willing to tuck yourself away for a while in the studio and work your ass off.

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    Given time, this will be "classic DMB." After all, the big 3 were hardly "classic" at the time of their release.
    If by "classic DMB" you mean, anything close to being as good as the Big 3, like, in the same universe, nope.
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    I'd say don't stress it over this album. Listen to what satisfies you.

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    Too much credit to producers.
    Put it on the band. Sure, if you want someone to "make 'em shine," then the producer will do that. However, the quality of solely the songs, is on the band (music & lyrics). The one thing about artists is that they can always be working. It's a lifestyle. Periods of rest are important, otherwise you burn the candle at both ends, but each member can always be working on a new idea. Dave can keep a journal. Simple shit.

    Making an album is a commitment, like any other artistic undertaking. Either you have a good idea going into it, or you're willing to tuck yourself away for a while in the studio and work your ass off.

    If I could distill my rambles into one word: Discipline.
    Fail.
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    It's certainly dipped a little...not much though

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