New studio news!

[DirtyDeeds449]

Sounds good. I like the upright bass. I'm getting some BTCS vibes.

[bibby1044]

Originally Posted by awsomepath

I'm not sure about this, but I don't think the OP meant Steve Miller from the Steve Miller Band, or maybe he/she did. Care to clarify Peppermill?

Oh, I didnt know Berman meant that Steve Miller. Were all just confusing eachother.

[awsomepath]

Originally Posted by bibby1044

Oh, I didnt know Berman meant that Steve Miller. Were all just confusing eachother.

i'm not sure if he did ....... ........

[CoffeeJanitor]

My friends mom's brother's cousin is a record producer blah blah blah...

[Robio]

Okay, so we all like Steve Miller, but what would you guys think of Dennis Miller going into the studio with the band?

[Swizz2007]

Whoever this Steve guy is, he's just an engineer, so who cares? Unless all you guys have favorite engineers, lol, I personally don't pay attention to that stuff and doubt it would make or break a record.....

[DMBZeppelin]

According to Moses on TDC, who is very much an insider. thestand over here on Ants has said he won't even pretend he knows as much as Moses. Of course some won't believe what he posted, but for what it's worth:

Originally Posted by Moses of TDC

Co-Production/Mixing/Audio Engineering : Doug Mckean

a guy who works with covallo alot

Bottom line, I'm not so sure about this Steve guy.

[LowEnd_Theory]

Originally Posted by Swizz2007

Whoever this Steve guy is, he's just an engineer, so who cares? Unless all you guys have favorite engineers, lol, I personally don't pay attention to that stuff and doubt it would make or break a record.....

I do.

[Peppermill]

Originally Posted by awsomepath

I'm not sure about this, but I don't think the OP meant Steve Miller from the Steve Miller Band, or maybe he/she did. Care to clarify Peppermill?

Steve Miller, not of the Steve Miller Band, but someone who has worked with the band before. I'm sorry I can't give anyone more information about what tracks are on the album, who else might be guesting, etc. All I know is what has been told to me and what I've posted. The only other thing that my friend clarified about the setup is that the band had been recording with another brand/type of mics and part of her crew's job was to bring in the new steinhauser mics and do some repair work on the mixing consoles. She doesn't know why they made the move, if it was for recording the entire session or for particular tracks. Like I said before, if I find out anything new, I'll let you guys know. I've never been the person to come across this kind of information before and just thought it would be cool to share.

[jordanbball17]

Originally Posted by Peppermill

Steve Miller, not of the Steve Miller Band, but someone who has worked with the band before. I'm sorry I can't give anyone more information about what tracks are on the album, who else might be guesting, etc. All I know is what has been told to me and what I've posted. The only other thing that my friend clarified about the setup is that the band had been recording with another brand/type of mics and part of her crew's job was to bring in the new steinhauser mics and do some repair work on the mixing consoles. She doesn't know why they made the move, if it was for recording the entire session or for particular tracks. Like I said before, if I find out anything new, I'll let you guys know. I've never been the person to come across this kind of information before and just thought it would be cool to share.

We appreciate it!

[Isaacdinho12]

dave on piano for ADSR??

[ant_marching41]

Awesome news. Thanks for the info.

[ant_marching41]

Originally Posted by Isaacdinho12

dave on piano for ADSR??

Thats very possible. I like that idea better than having Butch control that entire track.

[RobRoy286]

Originally Posted by ant_marching41

Thats very possible. I like that idea better than having Butch control that entire track.

I hate when people say stuff like this. They'll play the same shit, but just because it's Butch, you'd rather have Dave play it. It's like when people have said that Out Of My Hands would be better if Dave got up and played it all the time and not Butch.

[qm247]

thanks for the info, Peppermill.

[ant_marching41]

Originally Posted by RobRoy286

I hate when people say stuff like this. They'll play the same shit, but just because it's Butch, you'd rather have Dave play it. It's like when people have said that Out Of My Hands would be better if Dave got up and played it all the time and not Butch.

I hear what you're saying, but I love the fact that Dave experiments on piano. And in case you didn't notice, Dave plays absolutely no guitar on ADSR. So I'd rather have Dave take the lead on this one.

I like Butch, but I'd rather have Dave lead the song. Thats all Im saying.

[jaymas9]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

According to Moses on TDC, who is very much an insider. thestand over here on Ants has said he won't even pretend he knows as much as Moses. Of course some won't believe what he posted, but for what it's worth:



Bottom line, I'm not so sure about this Steve guy.

Isn't that the guy that was sure Lillywhite was producing....yea don't believe anything he says after that.

[dmbfan4ever]

Originally Posted by ant_marching41

I hear what you're saying, but I love the fact that Dave experiments on piano. And in case you didn't notice, Dave plays absolutely no guitar on ADSR. So I'd rather have Dave take the lead on this one.

I like Butch, but I'd rather have Dave lead the song. Thats all Im saying.

umm...Dave plays a guitar solo in this one, which is probably the #1 reason people like and are excited about it.

[ant_marching41]

Originally Posted by dmbfan4ever

umm...Dave plays a guitar solo in this one, which is probably the #1 reason people like and are excited about it.

But he plays nothing during the verses and the chorus, which I don't get at all.

I would say that the #1 reason why people on this board are excited about ADSR are the lyrics, which aren't that bad at all.

And I think we can all agree that Dave is not a soloist. He plays the same damn arpeggio, and he brings nothing to the solo section. If its going to be on the album, Tim will own the solo on it, which is why I'm excited about this track.

[dmbfan4ever]

Originally Posted by ant_marching41

But he plays nothing during the verses and the chorus, which I don't get at all.

I would say that the #1 reason why people on this board are excited about ADSR are the lyrics, which aren't that bad at all.

And I think we can all agree that Dave is not a soloist. He plays the same damn arpeggio, and he brings nothing to the solo section. If its going to be on the album, Tim will own the solo on it, which is why I'm excited about this track.

The "solo" Dave was attempting gave insight into a new direction, Dave actually taking chances and putting thought into the songs. Plus Leroi has a solo, and as you said, the song has solid lyrics. I also feel Dave will add a riff to the verse and chorus, and Tim will have a solo, a la Proudest Monkey.

[ant_marching41]

Originally Posted by dmbfan4ever

The "solo" Dave was attempting gave insight into a new direction, Dave actually taking chances and putting thought into the songs. Plus Leroi has a solo, and as you said, the song has solid lyrics. I also feel Dave will add a riff to the verse and chorus, and Tim will have a solo, a la Proudest Monkey.

And I'm fine with that, which is why I said earlier that I'd rather have Dave play piano on this than Butch. I like Butch to an extent, but if ADSR is going to impress me in the studio, Dave either needs to play piano, or come up with a riff that will lead the song.

We can at least agree that there is something to be excited about with ADSR, which is something that I couldn't say back in November when I went to the IZOD show.

[DMBZeppelin]

Originally Posted by jaymas9

Isn't that the guy that was sure Lillywhite was producing....yea don't believe anything he says after that.

He never said 100% for sure, but he thought that he was. In all fairness Jake thought the same thing. He said as much in the podcast. He also said he'd understand why so many different inside sources were saying it. Because Jake and Matt heard it from a lot of different places, that's why they themselves thought it was Lillywhite.

Then they looked into it, and found out he wasn't. But they even said there appeared to be some form of communication between Lillywhite and DMB. But I don't see how you can knock Moses for hearing what everyone was hearing around that time.

[marco j]

Originally Posted by RobRoy286

I hate when people say stuff like this. They'll play the same shit, but just because it's Butch, you'd rather have Dave play it. It's like when people have said that Out Of My Hands would be better if Dave got up and played it all the time and not Butch.

Listen to OOMH from the tour and then listen to Dave play it at RCMH, there is a HUGE difference.

It's amazing how such a simple song can sound so dead when Butch plays it.

Also, the Mark and Carter jam is better than anything Butch has ever done.

[TurboPGT]

Originally Posted by RobRoy286

I hate when people say stuff like this. They'll play the same shit, but just because it's Butch, you'd rather have Dave play it. It's like when people have said that Out Of My Hands would be better if Dave got up and played it all the time and not Butch.

LOL

Yes Out of my Hands would be sooooooooo much better if Dave played it.....


How much better can Dave play 3 notes on a piano than Butch Taylor?! lol

[marco j]

^It's certainly better on the album AND on Radio City.

[ant_marching41]

^ I agree.

Lets go back to ADSR for a sec..

If Dave can pull off something better on ADSR than what Butch has been playing, wouldn't that satisfy the fans more? Wouldn't we be incredibly excited that Dave is being creative in the studio (with the piano) and moving past the three note OOMH? This song is too good lyrically and musically for Dave to sit in the backround and only play a 3-5 note, 20 second solo on guitar.

[MistreatedLewis]

Originally Posted by marco j

Listen to OOMH from the tour and then listen to Dave play it at RCMH, there is a HUGE difference.

It's amazing how such a simple song can sound so dead when Butch plays it.

Also, the Mark and Carter jam is better than anything Butch has ever done.

Yeah I'd almost rather hear Batson tour with DMB!

[ant_marching41]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

Yeah I'd almost rather hear Batson tour with DMB!

Bring that drum machine back to me again.

[bennettr]

Originally Posted by MistreatedLewis

Yeah I'd almost rather hear Batson tour with DMB!

That song is pretty boring to me. It's got no DMB quality to it (except carter obviously).

[Northerntube]

Dave's a songwriter first and foremost. There's no reason piano shouldn't be another tool of inspiration for him.