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Old 02-04-2008, 08:43 PM   #31
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Re: Do you think this album will top Stand Up?

I don't think they could make something worse than Stand Up, but nothing would shock me at this point.
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    Re: Do you think this album will top Stand Up?

    When you follow a band from the begining and the first couple albums attract you, The minute the band alters their style a little everyone is having a fit. I can understand this because the original style is what attracted you in the first place. Not to sound OLD and like a know it all...
    I've been traveling around since the mid 70's listening to all kind of bands
    play. Trust me , DMB is one of the most talented band out there, every band has good and not so great albums. You kind of have to keep an open mind and take it for what it's worth. There will be more good music from these guys. The same people who are upset, probably go to the shows and are not happy with the set list eigther! Just go listen and enjoy the night!!!
    The world don't revolve around just your taste all the time. Believe me there aren't that many bands any more that are as talented as these guys.
    I've seen ALOT of bands play. DON'T WORRY!!!
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    Old 02-05-2008, 11:20 AM   #33
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    IMO Stand Up isn't as bad as everyone thinks..it is my least favorite of the DMB albums..but I still listen to it and enjoy it. especially songs like American Baby, Louisiana Bayou, and You might Die Trying (<-better live). But as for the new album I have very high hopes. I really do like the new songs and if his songwriting is on an upswing and we could expect half the album to be new songs we've heard live but re-worked and perfected in studio and the other half entirely new and good songs..than this album will kick ass!!
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    IMO Stand Up isn't as bad as everyone thinks..it is my least favorite of the DMB albums..but I still listen to it and enjoy it. especially songs like American Baby, Louisiana Bayou, and You might Die Trying (<-better live). But as for the new album I have very high hopes. I really do like the new songs and if his songwriting is on an upswing and we could expect half the album to be new songs we've heard live but re-worked and perfected in studio and the other half entirely new and good songs..than this album will kick ass!!
    Well I enjoy Stand Up but for DMB it is that bad.
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    IMO Stand Up isn't as bad as everyone thinks..it is my least favorite of the DMB albums..but I still listen to it and enjoy it. especially songs like American Baby, Louisiana Bayou, and You might Die Trying (<-better live). But as for the new album I have very high hopes. I really do like the new songs and if his songwriting is on an upswing and we could expect half the album to be new songs we've heard live but re-worked and perfected in studio and the other half entirely new and good songs..than this album will kick ass!!
    Yes, yes it is...

    If this album doesn't top Stand Up it's pretty much game over for the music lovers.
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    I think it will be one of their best.
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    Old 02-05-2008, 08:09 PM   #37
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    It can't be worse than Stand Up. I don't know whether it will even be good or not, but I refuse to believe that they could put out something worse than Stand Up.
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    When you follow a band from the begining and the first couple albums attract you, The minute the band alters their style a little everyone is having a fit. I can understand this because the original style is what attracted you in the first place. Not to sound OLD and like a know it all...
    I've been traveling around since the mid 70's listening to all kind of bands
    play. Trust me , DMB is one of the most talented band out there, every band has good and not so great albums. You kind of have to keep an open mind and take it for what it's worth. There will be more good music from these guys. The same people who are upset, probably go to the shows and are not happy with the set list eigther! Just go listen and enjoy the night!!!
    The world don't revolve around just your taste all the time. Believe me there aren't that many bands any more that are as talented as these guys.
    I've seen ALOT of bands play. DON'T WORRY!!!
    this is perfect logic that some people just can't grasp.
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    this is perfect logic that some people just can't grasp.
    It is good logic.

    It doesn't change the fact that SU is as bad an album as has ever been released by any respectable artist, or the fact that it hasn't been worth buying a single ticket to live shows since 2004.

    But otherwise, it is good logic. Bands to have their peaks and valleys.
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    Old 02-06-2008, 03:50 AM   #40
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    Re: Do you think this album will top Stand Up?

    uhhhh, probably. Yeah.


    that being said, even if it isn't Tits McGonnigal, that doesn't mean that "it's over" for the band, and to those of you who would "walk away" if this album doesn't meet your standards, you're pretty piss-poor fans. Two sub-par albums in a row does not a used-up artist make. Case in point:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dyl...#Studio_albums

    take a look between 1978 and 1988. I count no less than 8 sub-par records in that period (that's a whole decade's worth btw . . in a row). Dylan himself admits as much in his autobiography. Was he done? Oh Mercy would beg to differ.

    so, ok, DMB is not Dylan. I know. Not only are we talking about a whole band as opposed to an individual, but also that individual is one of the most prolific songwriters in history. Understood. But i picked Dylan because he's the first person to pop in my head that fits the circumstances of my point, which is this: Another less-than-off-the-hizzle album doesn't necessarily equal musical Ragnarok. There are other examples of artists that have had a couple of average records in a row and then come back to put out some of the best stuff of their careers. Clapton and Cash also come to mind immediately, and im confident that i could come up with another 3 or 4 good examples if it wasn't almost 4 in the morning.
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    A studio Shotgun will beat Stand UP all by itself, IMO.
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    It has to!!
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    Re: Do you think this album will top Stand Up?

    My gut instinct is to say yes, but then again, I also thought that there was no way DMB could put out an album worse than Everyday. However, there is evidence this time around it seems that they are actually conscious of the need to make the album good as opposed to simply putting one out. We shall see whether that remains the case, or whether some new producer comes in, wipes the slate clean and gets them distracted with yet another formula that doesn't work for DMB.
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    I have to agree that Stand Up wasn't one of their best albums but.....
    a couple of those songs sounded great this summer, now that they have been polished up a bit! Bayou, You Might Die Trying American Baby Intro,
    I thought they sounded better than I thought at first when I heard the CD.
    A polished turd is still a turd. Stand Up was their worst album. They should have spent more time spent in the studio building up those songs to how they are now with better lyrics. BUT that's another discussion for another day.

    Back to the topic, I sure hope that this cd is better than Stand Up, I don't see how it can get any worse.
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    Yes... but thats very easily accomplished. If this album is even just ok (about Everyday quality), I think DMB needs to just hang it up and call it a day.



    I think you hit that pipe a few too many times. I understand that is your opinion and I repsect that but in MY opinion Everyday is one of their best albums. Like I said, MY opinion. As far as better that stand up? I don't think DMB could produce a bad album, I just hope its different than Stand Up. I love hearing the music evolve and change throughout their career, so fun!
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    I think you hit that pipe a few too many times. I understand that is your opinion and I repsect that but in MY opinion Everyday is one of their best albums. Like I said, MY opinion. As far as better that stand up? I don't think DMB could produce a bad album, I just hope its different than Stand Up. I love hearing the music evolve and change throughout their career, so fun!
    Your opinion is false. You feel special typing with that font?
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    I really really hope that this album is amazing just so all you people shut up about your opinions on SU. It's time to stop dwelling on the past and look forward, thats why the SU forum closed, because we need to look on the future and stop dwelling arguing about SU. Some people like it some don't, leave it at that and move on.
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    I really really hope that this album is amazing just so all you people shut up about your opinions on SU. It's time to stop dwelling on the past and look forward, thats why the SU forum closed, because we need to look on the future and stop dwelling arguing about SU. Some people like it some don't, leave it at that and move on.
    So should the people who love UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS stop talking about them and 'dwelling on the past' as well?
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    So should the people who love UTTAD, Crash, and BTCS stop talking about them and 'dwelling on the past' as well?
    Nah you're right I worded it wrong. I guess I'm just saying that all of you guys arguing about SU re sorta being counterproductive to everything because you just talk in circles and you either like or you don't. Nothing you say is going to make someone who either likes or doesn't like the album change they opinion.
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    yes, i think this will be much better than stand up
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    I believe it could be of Busted Stuff quality...
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    I think this album has the potential to make a big 4? I really think it will be better than Busted Stuff. Sounds like they're going all out.
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    I think this album has the potential to make a big 4? I really think it will be better than Busted Stuff. Sounds like they're going all out.
    yeah i agree . the band realizes that fans percieve them as being at a low point and theres no way there going to release this album until their certain its better than anything theyve put out in the past 8 years
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    yeah i agree . the band realizes that fans percieve them as being at a low point and theres no way there going to release this album until their certain its better than anything theyve put out in the past 8 years
    Do the fans percieve them that way? If so, do they realize it?
    It boggles my mind, but they get a lot of cheers for Smooth Rider and Bayou and Hunger and ABI...
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    I guarantee it will be markedly better.
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    why should a song thats been around for several years be the reason why an album is good?
    A lot of people keep saying things like this, but truthfully, DMB has been reforging old material in their studio work for years. Halloween, Pig, Captain, and Grace is Gone (the rift at least) are all examples, and there are more. BTCS is really the only example when a large amount of truly brand-spankin' new material was well-received. DMB quality seems to depend entirely on the deliberate evolution of songs. With Everyday/Stand Up, the evolution simply did not take place. I think working with older material that's 4-7 years old while continuing to rework the more recently road-tested songs will ultimately extend DMB's lifespan as a band, inspire them to write more good music, and imo allow them to focus on the quality of each individual song.
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    No doubt in my mind that it'll top Stand Up. Should be the best thing since tLWS
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    No doubt in my mind that it'll top Stand Up. Should be the best thing since tLWS
    Fonz's blog really got you excited, haha...I cant say I disagree.
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    Come on lets be realistic... How could it POSSIBLY be as bad as Stand Up was?
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    I'm pretty sure it'll beat Stand Up, but if it's not I literally see myself using it as a "clay" pidgeon.
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