Legion (FX)

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by meatball41

Made it through 3 1/2 episodes and had to bail. Too fucking bizarre for me. Kept thinking it was going to take a turn towards something remotely normal, but it seems to be going more and more down the rabbit hole. I can take an episode or three of being inside the characters head but not an entire season. I just finished Taboo and it had it's moments of oddness, but this is a whole other level. I can't do 8 hrs of "A Clockwork Orange" type of weird.

The first 3 episodes are very weird. I'll admit the only reason I stuck with the show is because of the cinematography and production. It REALLY starts to click in episode four and five, specifically episode five. That was the episode where I got invested into the actual story.

I say don't give up. It's a brand new show. It's only 5 episodes in and it's a psychological show so it's going to take some time to get really going.

[TMoore4075]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

The first 3 episodes are very weird. I'll admit the only reason I stuck with the show is because of the cinematography and production. It REALLY starts to click in episode four and five, specifically episode five. That was the episode where I got invested into the actual story.

I say don't give up. It's a brand new show. It's only 5 episodes in and it's a psychological show so it's going to take some time to get really going.

It's fucking strange for sure but I love it. I watched it one day on my lunch with my headphones on. That makes it really fucked up when you can hear all the little details that you probably can't hear when watching it on tv.

[meatball41]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

The first 3 episodes are very weird. I'll admit the only reason I stuck with the show is because of the cinematography and production. It REALLY starts to click in episode four and five, specifically episode five. That was the episode where I got invested into the actual story.

I say don't give up. It's a brand new show. It's only 5 episodes in and it's a psychological show so it's going to take some time to get really going.

The first episode I was completely enthralled, but then the second and the third were just, I don't know how to put it......they were just a tough hang for me, if that makes any sense. A show like this I feel you should WANT to sit down and enjoy, but I kept finding that I was having to force myself to sit down and watch it. Like it was a chore. But I kept biting the bullet and sometimes I felt rewarded for doing so and sometimes not so much. But then the fourth episode had that bizarre opening with dude from Flight of the Concords, and then went into the story about dude frozen in a diving suit or some shit, then he was in David's dream/memory and that just pushed me over the edge. I just think the show lacks a perspective that everyone in the audience can all share and agree on. No one knows what's real and what's not and 4 episodes into an 8 episode season, that's really frustrating IMO. And if that's how the entire series is going to be, well then I guess this show just isn't my bag.

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by meatball41

The first episode I was completely enthralled, but then the second and the third were just, I don't know how to put it......they were just a tough hang for me, if that makes any sense. A show like this I feel you should WANT to sit down and enjoy, but I kept finding that I was having to force myself to sit down and watch it. Like it was a chore. But I kept biting the bullet and sometimes I felt rewarded for doing so and sometimes not so much. But then the fourth episode had that bizarre opening with dude from Flight of the Concords, and then went into the story about dude frozen in a diving suit or some shit, then he was in David's dream/memory and that just pushed me over the edge. I just think the show lacks a perspective that everyone in the audience can all share and agree on. No one knows what's real and what's not and 4 episodes into an 8 episode season, that's really frustrating IMO. And if that's how the entire series is going to be, well then I guess this show just isn't my bag.

I can totally see how this show is not for everyone. I'd say just make it through episode 5 and if you still feel the same then probably best to bail. Your perspective makes a lot of sense. I wasn't too far off on episode 3. I was definitely only watching for production value going into episode 4 and 5. But they finally made it easier to understand the story and identify with characters in ep 5 IMO.

[clayj41]

Originally Posted by junior94

speaking of which, has there been any word on season 2 being a go yet?

Renewed!!!

http://collider.com/legion-season-2-renewed/

[chadizzy1]

I like the pic they posted on FB about the renewal:
https://www.facebook.com/legionfx/ph...type=3&theater

[WidespreadMule3]

Interesting episode last night. I'm guessing some pretty big strides will be made in the next episode since there's only 2 left in the season.

[junior94]

I was hoping for a little homage to "Funny People" with the moment in this latest episode, where Lenny ("the therapist") asks Syd if she liked music. be like the scene in the movie where Seth Rogen is first starting to flirt with Aubrey Plaza's character.

SR: Do you like music?
AB: ... did you seriously just ask me if I like music? You might as well ask me if I like food."

[DMBZeppelin]

This show gets better every week.

[WidespreadMule3]

Last night's episode was somehow on another level from everything they've done so far. That was probably the best hour of tv I've ever watched. The silent film portion was probably my favorite thing they've done all season.

[clayj41]

As much as I enjoyed last night's episode, I found the chalkboard scene and the opening conversation between Oliver and Cary to be overly expository. That's a minor gripe though since it's really the only time the show has been guilty of favoring telling over showing. It was time for some answers, and you can cover so much more ground by discussing the Shadow King and his motives in the stylistic fashion the show depicted.

The silent film portion with dialogue intertitles and all is amongst my all-time favorite television scenes. Give Aubrey Plaza all the awards.

[junior94]

so bummed... I'd been thinking for awhile the show was 10 episodes long.

[bradshaw06]

The silient movie scene was amazing.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by clayj41

As much as I enjoyed last night's episode, I found the chalkboard scene and the opening conversation between Oliver and Cary to be overly expository. That's a minor gripe though since it's really the only time the show has been guilty of favoring telling over showing. It was time for some answers, and you can cover so much more ground by discussing the Shadow King and his motives in the stylistic fashion the show depicted.

The silent film portion with dialogue intertitles and all is amongst my all-time favorite television scenes. Give Aubrey Plaza all the awards.

I do want to say this, the chalkboard scene was incredibly accurate when comparing to the comic book storyline between Xavier and Shadow King. And I imagine they had to do it that way. That storyline had to be established and that seemed to be a good way to do it. Plus, it was probably cheaper than actually creating the battle between Xavier and Shadow King, plus you'd have to find/cast an Xavier, or use one of the existing Xaviers, which would cost more money. I imagine this was a cost saving measure to get the story out there and explain the history with Shadow King and Xavier.

Originally Posted by bradshaw06

The silient movie scene was amazing.

It was incredibly well done. Other than the writing and storyline itself, the cinematography of this show is on a whole other level. This show should receive some nominations and/or awards for visual style. And music, because the mixing/selection of various tracks really adds to the depth of the show.

[WidespreadMule3]

After this week's finale, I really want to binge the show start to finish. I feel like commercials and days off take you out of the psychological elements of the show.

That said, I'm slightly concerned how it might mess with my head to binge this show.

[junior94]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

I do want to say this, the chalkboard scene was incredibly accurate when comparing to the comic book storyline between Xavier and Shadow King. And I imagine they had to do it that way. That storyline had to be established and that seemed to be a good way to do it. Plus, it was probably cheaper than actually creating the battle between Xavier and Shadow King, plus you'd have to find/cast an Xavier, or use one of the existing Xaviers, which would cost more money. I imagine this was a cost saving measure to get the story out there and explain the history with Shadow King and Xavier.

I'm sure it's not actually the case, and I haven't watched a 2nd time yet to make it really sink in, but the portion where they're sort of showing the flashback of David first being dropped off there as a boy and you don't see "the father" but sort of hear him, I remember thinking the voice actually sounded to me like James McAvoy. I mean, trying to pay even a little bit of attention to the timeline, it would much more likely be him than Patrick Stewart.

[chadizzy1]

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/legi...ey-1201967643/

"It’s sort of a non-starter to say James McAvoy’s going to be in my show,” Hawley says. “I’m not saying never, but certainly not in the first year of it. You’d have to pay those guys so much money to begin with. You’d have to pay them movie money in a different medium.”

This kind of goes along with my argument about cost. But he does say never say never, so it could happen, but I wouldn't count on it. I could imagine them casting a different Xavier in the TV universe.

[WidespreadMule3]

A bit of a disappointing finale compared to the last few weeks. Interested to see where Jermaine goes with the Shadow King. More just glad they're keeping Aubrey Plaza around. She killed that role.

[chadizzy1]

Finale:
- I just realized that Clark’s husband, Daniel, played by Keir O'Donnell, was Todd in Wedding Crashers.
- That opening scene of David using his powers to make that tree of men was fantastic. This is the kind of stuff I’ve been waiting for.
- I also liked seeing David levitating, that was fun.
- All in all, it was a good season. I look forward to seeing where Season 2 goes now that we’ve got a lot of backstory type stuff out of the way.

[chadizzy1]

If you're a vinyl fan, check this out:

http://modern-vinyl.com/2017/06/09/e...ming-to-vinyl/

[chadizzy1]

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/legio...things-to-come
Legion season 2: Aubrey Plaza hints at things to come

[chadizzy1]

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/...iere-fx-april/

Premier date is set for April, but no specific day yet.

[DMBZeppelin]

I’m excited for this to come back.

I also wonder what cool things they’ll be able to include post-Disney merger.

[dre2142]

loved this show

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

I’m excited for this to come back.

I also wonder what cool things they’ll be able to include post-Disney merger.

Aside from adding a real Xavier I thought they handled it perfectly in S1. I'm completely fine with them sticking with that.

[TMoore4075]

I'm ok with April. A lot of shows wrap up then so it would give me something to watch.

[DMBZeppelin]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Aside from adding a real Xavier I thought they handled it perfectly in S1. I'm completely fine with them sticking with that.

The Shadow King, Xavier, Legion, etc. they're all Marvel characters. I'm not talking about Spider-Man swinging into the show. There might be some off-shoot characters that were with Marvel Studios they could now use. I'm just glad they'll have the option, not that it will result in any actual changes.

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

The Shadow King, Xavier, Legion, etc. they're all Marvel characters. I'm not talking about Spider-Man swinging into the show. There might be some off-shoot characters that were with Marvel Studios they could now use. I'm just glad they'll have the option, not that it will result in any actual changes.

Yeah I get that. I'm saying add an actual Xavier character into the cast and dabble as they have. They made several references to being part of a Marvel universe but it was never that big of a deal. Thought they handled it perfectly in S1.

[DMBZeppelin]

Season 2 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=HmBIn9De-Yc

[junior94]

"oh so you guys thought season 1 was like an extended acid trip?? You ain't seen NOTHING yet!!!"


one of my takeaways after these first two episodes, and mind you I don't really know anything of the comics lore for this title. But since they've made it a whole big thing that the guy who is, I guess the "boss", I think they said, for our hero group at the facility they're at now, that we can't see his face. That he can only seem to communicate via those super creepy android triplets. Do we think there's any chance at all what is going on underneath that giant wicker basket on his head, it's going to somehow turn out to be the true physical form of Faruk? ya know the actor who got cast for this season to play what the Shadow King really looks like, the middle eastern looking dude.