Re: David Fincher & Kevin Spacey's HOUSE OF CARDS On Netflix (2.1.13)
alright, completely done with season 2 now.
Seeing how I was completely off with my guess about the pres & the wife, there now seems to have been that much less of a point of showing Feng engaged in the bondage 3some, whatever the fuck that was. Now it just feels like kind of contrived, just doing something extreme and sensationalistic because they could. Not that I'm offended by it or anything, not at all, just that from a storytelling viewpoint it seems kind of silly.
Maybe I'm a complete moron for having to state this, but I'm still not entirely sure if Seth is supposedly to be truly working for Frank, or for Tusk. or even maybe some place in between completely for his own ends. I mean, given that in the second half of the season there goes a very long time without seeing any sort of scene at all of Seth appearing to be on behalf of Tusk, and then suddenly he's with him in the one Washington hotel when Tusk's meeting with Remy, I kind of thought perhaps that was saying that he really was on Tusk's side. but again, ultimately I just don't know. Of course maybe that's just what we're supposed to think.
I see what they were doing with the Doug/Rachel relationship, but man did it feel like it took a loooooooooong time to get there.
We already knew a 3rd season had been greenlit. I suppose that will center around Frank and his Republican challenger in 2016... ?
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oh and to crashdmb, regarding your post earlier about the topless Zoe pic, it was practically one of those 'blink and you miss it' kind of moments. One person hands another guy a small stack of photos, and while he's looking at them one by one in his hands, you see the photo of Zoe topless, presumably from Frank's little "photo shoot" with her back in season 1. but again I just sort of wonder if it wasn't faked somehow, unless Mara changed her mind over the hiatus about doing real nudity.
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Re: David Fincher & Kevin Spacey's HOUSE OF CARDS On Netflix (2.1.13)
I finished Season 2 late last night. Some general thoughts that encompass all episodes, so I would advise not reading if you haven't seen S2 in its entirety yet.
1. The first lady is a MILF.
2. I thought the Gillian storyline wrapped way too early and neatly considering how much they built it up in the final episodes of Season 1. I'm hoping it will come back in some capacity in Season 3.
3. The Adam Galloway storyline was one of my least favorite parts of Season 1, but I am glad they brought it back for the sake of giving it real purpose in the greater scheme of things. It didn't have a very resolute finish in Season 1, and now it's very understandable why.
4. Loved the beefed up roles of Tusk, Remy, and Freddy. Freddy's final episode was great stuff - it was like a lost episode of The Wire. Remy and Tusk made some outstanding adversaries for Frank.
5. I'm not satisfied with the way the story concluded with Lucas investigating Zoe's murder and the hacking stuff. It was a major, major storyline in the first half of the season, and then it's dropped like a hat once Lucas takes the plea. That doesn't quite sit right with me.
6. I am going to miss Stamper because he was my favorite character, but it's also great for the story that he is now dead. Frank is winning way too much, and now he's got a huge vulnerability to set him up for a fall. It's also poetic justice that it would be Rachel to blow the whistle on Underwood and what really happened to Russo.
7. Rachel, however, is not scot-free. She can still be linked to Stamper's murder because of Nancy, the Whip's secretary. Remember in Season 1 that Stamper had Nancy take Rachel in while he could find something more permanent for her. However, Francis doesn't want her going to trial. Lucas, Janine, and probably even Hammerschmit could serve as witnesses. Frank is in a corner because you can't just kill the lead suspect of what would probably be the biggest single homicide case in the country once it breaks that the President's Chief of Staff is a victim of murder. It's an ugly situation for both sides.
8. Robin Wright killed it in her interview scene revealing her rape. I wish that the season had put a lot more focus on that storyline - would have really liked to have seen the actual court-martial and the perpetrator could have made an extraordinary villain. That felt a tad bit wasted as a whole.
9. The whole thing with the Underwoods and Meechum was just weird and out of left field. I'm hoping this will play a role in Season 3, because right now, it just seems like it was put in for shock value, even though they previously developed Frank as having intimate relationships with his friend from the military academy.
10. All in all, I loved this season and thought it was even better than Season 1.
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Re: David Fincher & Kevin Spacey's HOUSE OF CARDS On Netflix (2.1.13)
Casey, I pretty much agree with you on especially #5 and #9.
For the fight that Lucas was going thru that was far too quick of a resolution, it seemed like after everything he gave up too easily. and yea, you should've seen my face as the kitchen threesome really hit its stride. I remembered the season 1 bisexuality stuff about Frank right after the fact, but still, that was just so weird so fast. and then of course they're all totally fine the next morning like nothing ever happened.
but I do commend them on going to that type of place with the Zoe character, actually pulling that off. like I said in the earlier post, well done on the production of keeping that a secret all this time.
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Re: David Fincher & Kevin Spacey's HOUSE OF CARDS On Netflix (2.1.13)
Finished the first two episodes. Great season so far. Gonna try to binge and finish at least half the season tonight (and watch NBA all-star game). Might be a late one.
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I actually remember thinking before that I specifically didn't want to just go hog wild this weekend and finish the whole thing up, make it last over at least just a couple more days. buuut... yea that went to shit
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Through episode #8. I really want to finish tonight, but I'm off work tomorrow and would like having something to do tomorrow as well
One benefit I have for working for the government - no work tomorrow in honor of Presidents Day. I fully intend to burn through the rest of it tomorrow. I have a couple other shows on my radar so I'll have something to pick up once I'm done too haha
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I actually remember thinking before that I specifically didn't want to just go hog wild this weekend and finish the whole thing up, make it last over at least just a couple more days. buuut... yea that went to shit
I might not even get to finish it this week. I like making it last longer.
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Through 8 eps. Will finish tonight. Just too good. A note on episode 2
I love how they killed zoey off. Too often shows pussyfoot around with killing off a main character and that results in 1. Meaningless screen time and 2. A loss in momentum. Awesome choice by them
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I might not even get to finish it this week. I like making it last longer.
well I figure I've still also got the season 4 of Arrested Development to go back to. I hadn't taken another real, thorough look at that again since my views when it first debuted. and the ironic thing there, I was certainly looking waaaaay more forward to the AD series than I was to this show, and yet, I don't recall right now why, but I'm pretty sure it wound up taking me at least a full week before I got thru all those episodes.
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So if they keep adding a main character from Deadwood every season does that mean we get a clean-cut Ian McShane as FU's Republican adversary in season 3? That'd be pretty f'ing cool.
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I don't know if my opinion carries any extra weight here as the thread starter or not (if not that's totally clue, I'm not looking for a power trip ) but even though the entire series debuts at once, I think it would be perfectly reasonable and polite to not talk about MAJOR plot points outside of tags for at the very least until Monday (certainly at the very least, the huge event that finishes out episode 1). I think generally speaking in my memory, even threads we have dedicated to specific feature films -- as opposed to Casey's movie thread -- those don't have big spoilers openly talked about until the end of opening weekend.
But I mean my previous post for instance, the rape that I talked about, I think I mentioned it in general enough terms (and that since it includes a brand new character we've never seen before, and might hardly ever again) I think I handled that openly in the thread with a fair amount of consideration.
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hahaa... I hear ya, but trust me, I didn't really significantly spoil anything for you. It's not a rape that takes place in the current time of the show, it's something WAY in the past. Honestly with the first 2 eps done so far, I wouldn't be surprised if it was referred to simply to inform on how Frank might behave. hell there were 20 other plot points introduced in the first couple hours that are way bigger than that.
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pretty good line that Spacey had in the opening scene of ep3 about the VP slot, that I'd never heard before. the "Vice Presidents can either be door mats, or matadors. Which do you think I am?"
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Now that I'm done 2x02, first of all I think I agree with Casey pretty much on those issues over the security camera footage, seems like maybe a little bit of a cheat.
That military guy at the dinner presentation, you've gotta have some real fucking balls to go up and right in front of her husband, kiss on the cheek-hello to this woman that you apparently raped a long time ago. I guess maybe either that guy doesn't even believe he did anything questionable in the past, and/or he doesn't think Claire would want to have ever told Francis about it to begin with.
and I feel like a friggin rube asking this question, but the bit about the "secret part of the internet"... any thoughts of that actually being true?
Yeah, good call, I'll try not to be too specific until after Monday at the earliest. Wouldn't want to talk about the catalyst for the main character's wife's story arch for the entire second season. That's like, a MAJOR plot point; Isn't it?
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I'm not trying to twist the knife, I just came in here a couple days ago to post something and was trying not read anything as I was scrolling down. But I kept seeing "rape". So I was like, "Cool, Claire gets raped, thanks dick." But it's also my own fault. Shouldn't come into threads when all the content is already available. Technically there shouldn't be any spoilers, but I see where you guys are coming from.
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The end of Episode 11 was almost too weird and bizarre for my liking.
I agree, this was one of my big points in the spoiler I made for all my thoughts on Season 2. It felt so out of place without any natural build-up. Really felt like it was done for shock value.
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I've got four episodes left
This season is starting to turn into early seasons of mad men for me - there are a bunch of characters and I know what all of them do, just don't know what many of their names are
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The ending to episode 11 was earned for me. A lot of foreshadowing throughout the season when I had to think on it. I won't say it wasn't bizarre, but I do think it fit perfectly within the character traits they've established.
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