The NBA Thread

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Most Knick fans have not been watching the Finals of the French league

Sorry, not MOST but a lot. MSG network and ESPN NY tweeted live streams to yesterday's finals game and there were plenty in circulation for the games leading up to it.

But yes the debate is dumb. Guy was drafted so high because he can be a difference maker in defense right away. You can question a lot about him but defense isn't one of them.

[Speilmen230]

At this point, I'm just ready for the inevitable LBJ to Lakers move to happen. He and PG13 seem like they are staying put this next season, and then they both bolt for Laker Land.

Maybe Boogie and DWade too.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by Speilmen230

At this point, I'm just ready for the inevitable LBJ to Lakers move to happen. He and PG13 seem like they are staying put this next season, and then they both bolt for Laker Land.

Maybe Boogie and DWade too.

DWade will never be a bench guy. Brandon is going to be a star, and o wouldn't be shocked if they try him at the 2 this year.

[SqueeBaBooSquee]

Chicago Bulls are the most incompetent organization in the NBA. Can't believe Jimmy is gone. Can't stand Bulls management. Hoiberg and his system wont work and they're going all in with this shit now. Ughhh.

[Rodey]

You guys all preorder your ZO2: Sho'Time! by Lonzo Ball shoe yet? For a cool $495, how could you not?

Can't wait until November when I get these beauties.

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[YouNeverKnow25]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

Sorry, not MOST but a lot. MSG network and ESPN NY tweeted live streams to yesterday's finals game and there were plenty in circulation for the games leading up to it.

But yes the debate is dumb. Guy was drafted so high because he can be a difference maker in defense right away. You can question a lot about him but defense isn't one of them.

he's going to be a fine defender but it's not going to be "right away"

needs plenty of seasoning/conditioning/weight training before he can set foot on an NBA floor for 82 games.

that's no reason to avoid drafting a guy; plenty of people have needed time. it's just not going to be "right away"

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

he's going to be a fine defender but it's not going to be "right away"

needs plenty of seasoning/conditioning/weight training before he can set foot on an NBA floor for 82 games.

that's no reason to avoid drafting a guy; plenty of people have needed time. it's just not going to be "right away"

https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/...68168125685760

Certainly not the norm, but yeah, the bolded has been said many times before and been way off.

[TimHonks]

Originally Posted by Rodey

https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/...68168125685760

Certainly not the norm, but yeah, the bolded has been said many times before and been way off.

That tweet really isn't that bad. He averaged 6 points a game for the worst team in the league his rookie year. He has turned out great, but he definitely needed seasoning.

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by TimHonks

That tweet really isn't that bad. He averaged 6 points a game for the worst team in the league his rookie year. He has turned out great, but he definitely needed seasoning.

It's pretty bad. Giannis was a pretty significant contributor in year two.

[TimHonks]

Originally Posted by Rodey

It's pretty bad. Giannis was a pretty significant contributor in year two.

The tweet says 1 to 2 years. It took 1 year.

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by TimHonks

The tweet says 1 to 2 years. It took 1 year.

1 to 2 years before he's even playing minutes...

He was playing significant minutes in his rookie season.

[Rodey]

Malcolm Brogdon baby!

[Rodey]

Woj starts at ESPN on July 1.

Can't wait until they put all his content behind a paywall!

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by Rodey

Malcolm Brogdon baby!

Brogdon is good, but jesus if the ROY voting isn't an indication on how awful last year's draft class was...

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

Brogdon is good, but jesus if the ROY voting isn't an indication on how awful last year's draft class was...

Yeah, was pretty bad.

[kydmb99]

Woj reporting Celtics trying to get Hayward and George. Still don't think that gets them anywhere near GSW

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by kydmb99

Woj reporting Celtics trying to get Hayward and George. Still don't think that gets them anywhere near GSW

It doesn't considering how unbelievably thin their bench would be. I don't know if it gets them past Cleveland.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by kydmb99

Woj reporting Celtics trying to get Hayward and George. Still don't think that gets them anywhere near GSW

It doesn't, GSW is already winning the NBA Finals unless they have injuries, that has been established. It does improve the Celtics drastically though.

[YouNeverKnow25]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

It doesn't, GSW is already winning the NBA Finals unless they have injuries, that has been established. It does improve the Celtics drastically though.

which, by the way, is precisely what they should do

this "everybody should just try to be awful until the warriors and/or cavs split up" is faux-intelligentsia bullshit

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by kydmb99

Woj reporting Celtics trying to get Hayward and George. Still don't think that gets them anywhere near GSW

Warriors have a lot of questions surrounding their bench coming up. If they lose Iguodala, Livingston and Pachulia, they're suddenly a much different team.

[BotheLaneFan]

Phil and the Knicks to break up later today, according to ESPN.

[CrashDMB237]

If we can get an actual basketball person to run things then I'm fine with this. If all that happens is Steve Mills -- no resume, friend of Dolan -- takes over basketball operations... we are fucked sideways.

[TMoore4075]

One of the biggest failures ever? Obviously I'm talking just in terms of the job in NY. He seemed like he had no idea what to do.

[CrashDMB237]

Name someone under Dolan who has succeeded. You can't. Dolan will forever have an obsession with stars and flash and money and he has no problem sacrificing winning to get it. I'm glad those days are back.

[kydmb99]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

Name someone under Dolan who has succeeded. You can't. Dolan will forever have an obsession with stars and flash and money and he has no problem sacrificing winning to get it. I'm glad those days are back.

I don't think those days ever left actually.

It is going to be great watching Dolan fuck this up though.

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by kydmb99

I don't think those days ever left actually.

Phil actively tried to get rid of the stars that didnt help the team. I'm pretty sure that's what he was fired over. Am I missing something here?

[Rodey]

Best part about it is that they just picked up a two-year option on Phil.

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by Rodey

Best part about it is that they just picked up a two-year option on Phil.

This is the best part, because Dolan is the only one who feels the effects. Win win.

[Lee3691]

Just wish Phil had done his job and traded KP to the Lakers

[kydmb99]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

Phil actively tried to get rid of the stars that didnt help the team. I'm pretty sure that's what he was fired over. Am I missing something here?

By maxing out Carmelo and giving him a no trade clause? Okay.

Also, Dolan hired Phil because he was a big star who could be the fall guy when he failed. Sounds exactly like what you were describing in the original post I quoted. Dolan never had any interest in actually winning when he hired Phil.