John Mayer

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

I believe the record company forced a date, but there's no way they forced less songs. Bigger albums are how money is made these days with revenue coming from individual song streams. The record label would have never said, no, cut those songs, even if those songs were garbage - they will make money off of them in the new streaming business model. 12 songs instead of more was either John deciding the extra songs didn't fit/not liking them anymore, or John not having them done by the time of the record label's forced date.

I don't think bigger albums is how many is made these days. Show me the last mainstream band of any genre that has an album that's more than 15 or 16 songs. Most artists are putting out albums of 10-12 songs consistently.
Wouldn't all these artists just put out massive albums if that was the case?

A ton of music dumped at once is too much for most listeners and they would still just focus on the couple of singles released.

That being said, JM made it sound like he was coming out with a double album or something and that's why he was releasing it in waves. That made sense to me. Digesting 4 songs at a time up to 20 plus rather than just getting it all at once. The listener is more prone to give those song time and would spend more time streaming 4 songs multiple times as opposed to 20 at once and then picking a handful they enjoy to repeat.

I thought it was a cool idea, and was hoping it would just continue for the year. Maybe he has plans to release another album later on or something doing the same thing?

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by DMB1983

I don't think bigger albums is how many is made these days. Show me the last mainstream band of any genre that has an album that's more than 15 or 16 songs. Most artists are putting out albums of 10-12 songs consistently.
Wouldn't all these artists just put out massive albums if that was the case?

A ton of music dumped at once is too much for most listeners and they would still just focus on the couple of singles released.

That being said, JM made it sound like he was coming out with a double album or something and that's why he was releasing it in waves. That made sense to me. Digesting 4 songs at a time up to 20 plus rather than just getting it all at once. The listener is more prone to give those song time and would spend more time streaming 4 songs multiple times as opposed to 20 at once and then picking a handful they enjoy to repeat.

I thought it was a cool idea, and was hoping it would just continue for the year. Maybe he has plans to release another album later on or something doing the same thing?

I guess it's more of a pop thing than a band or rock thing, but sure, I'll oblige:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_(album)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Seat_at_the_Table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Like..._Unaware_of_It
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blonde_(Frank_Ocean_album)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Colour_in_Anything

Also, read these two articles:

http://www.factmag.com/2016/05/28/al...-are-to-blame/

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1391-a...ong-pop-album/

[recentlyJTR41]

I was at this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mNT8W57_mI

7 years ago today. St. Patrick's Day on St. Patrick's Day. What an incredible time. Wish I could go back!

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

I was at this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mNT8W57_mI

7 years ago today. St. Patrick's Day on St. Patrick's Day. What an incredible time. Wish I could go back!

I was there too. Great show!

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

I was there too. Great show!

Only My Stupid Mouth, 83, and St. Patrick's Day I've ever gotten


Doubt I'll ever hear them again

[M. Steng]

3 weeks till Philly!

[WidespreadMule3]

I did it guys!

I convinced my wife to let me go to the Nashville show. It wasn't so much that she didn't want me to go, it's more than I'll have to do a 3 hr drive to and from on a week night when, as a responsible adult, I should be at work the next morning at 8. Got a few margs in her and posed the question. She was down with me going but asked that she not have to go so she could be a responsible adult and go to work the next morning.

I went ahead and ordered my ticket before she sobered up to be on the safe side.

[justink]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/2...?_r=0&referer=

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by justink

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/2...?_r=0&referer=

Very good read.

Also, when's the rest of the album coming out? I feel like I must have missed that.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

Very good read.

Also, when's the rest of the album coming out? I feel like I must have missed that.

April 14

Here is the track list

https://twitter.com/JohnMayer/status...273537/photo/1

[TheLastStop123]

Originally Posted by justink

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/2...?_r=0&referer=

good read. sounds like John smokes a lot of pot and does a lot of swiping left haha.

[justink]

Originally Posted by TheLastStop123

good read. sounds like John smokes a lot of pot and does a lot of swiping left haha.

I wanna know what app it is.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by justink

I wanna know what app it is.

Theres a celeb/ultra rich-exclusive tinder app. Thats probably what it is.

[TheLastStop123]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Theres a celeb/ultra rich-exclusive tinder app. Thats probably what it is.

yeah they make a reference to it (or an app like it) in the HBO show Insecure.

[justink]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Theres a celeb/ultra rich-exclusive tinder app. Thats probably what it is.

Is it in the App Store?

Originally Posted by TheLastStop123

yeah they make a reference to it (or an app like it) in the HBO show Insecure.

I could see John making it up. Just because he saw it on there and he knows it will get people talking.

[TheLastPig]

John is definitely a ladies man so I dont think hes making it up.

Im also pretty confident its not in the app store considering 99.9% of the people who access that are not super rich or celebs.

I heard Whitney Cummings talking about it on the Joe Rogan podcast a couple weeks ago.

[justink]

Never mind. I can google. That's pretty cool.

[TheLastStop123]

Originally Posted by justink

Never mind. I can google. That's pretty cool.

yeah I just read the article on it, pretty interesting. their selections for it make it sound like that social media rating Black Mirror episode haha.

edit: of course fucking Bob Saget is on the app. I always felt like he was playing his true self in that Entourage episode haha

[dontdrink36]

Some lyrics from In the Blood


"How much of my mother has my mother left in me?
How much of my love will be insane to some degree?
And what about the feeling that I’m never good enough?
Will it wash out in the water or is it always in the blood?"

Can't wait to hear this tune. Mayer has said multiple times how much he loves it. These lyrics are very interesting.

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by TheLastStop123

good read. sounds like John smokes a lot of pot and does a lot of swiping left haha.

My buddies and I used to argue so much in middle school over if he smoked or not. It became quite clear the older we got and the more music he made he definitely smoked

[justink]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

My buddies and I used to argue so much in middle school over if he smoked or not. It became quite clear the older we got and the more music he made he definitely smoked

You're of the age to be, what? 22?


His career near ending interviews with RS and PB were smoke heavy. Almost like he just discovered weed with SJ.

That said... he's working with SJ again. Smoking again. How long until he gives a racist and sexist interview calling Katy Perry sexual A-Bomb?

[kydmb99]

What does everyone think of "Say"?

[Speilmen230]

Originally Posted by justink

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/2...?_r=0&referer=

Great read. He seems more self aware than ever. Which may or may not be a good thing in the long run. Interesting that he'll never consider co-writing with someone on his records. I appreciate that as much as I sigh at that as well. He totally has the capability to be a pop icon again, but he would definitely need to make artistic compromises in today's pop market.

[Speilmen230]

Originally Posted by recentlyJTR41

Here's what I'd like to see him do this Summer: 3 sets, Acoustic>Trio>Full Band

Set I: On the Way Home, Speak For Me, 83, St. Patrick's Day>Born and Raised (Reprise)

Set II: Who Did You Think I Was>So Excited, Another Kind of Green, Covered in Rain, Vultures, Little Wing

Set III: Helpless>Cold Rain and Snow, Moving on, Wildfire, Still Feel Like Your Man, Queen of California>Walt Grace, Emoji of a Wave

E: Badge & Gun (acoustic), Changing, I Don't Trust Myself

While I would certainly enjoy this show, it's super B&R & PV heavy, which does a huge disservice to his catalogue.

He is at a point in his career where he could cherry pick the best 3 songs from each record and have a monster set every night.

Songs that are "Must Plays" for me at every show:

Why Georgia
Gravity
Something's Missing
Edge of Desire

[Speilmen230]

Ok, gonna take a stab at the 3 set show. Totally just my preferences and what I would like to see him do this tour. Probably will be way more TSFE heavy than this.


Set I - Acoustic

Queen of California
Back to You
Who Says
I Feel It Coming (The Weeknd Cover)
Going to California/Stop This Train

Set II - The Trio

Try ->
Who Did You Think I Was
City Love ->
Covered in Rain
Wind Cries Mary ->
Machine Gun/Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)

Set III - Full Band

Still Feel Like Your Man
Something Like Olivia
Wheel
Wildfire
Waiting on the World to Change
Something's Missing
Edge of Desire
Why Georgia
---------------------
The Heart of Life (Stripped Down)
Moving On & Getting Over
Gravity

[WidespreadMule3]

Watched the ACL '07 show last night and was blown away. I knew he could play but I don't think I've ever just watched a fun live performance. Holy cow. John is insanely talented as a guitarist. Even more excited to see him live finally.

[currupt3d**]

Those ticket prices make me wanna throw up

[MOWJO8185]

Urrgh - we are getting close enough to release date that I think every bump is going to be info about a leak.

[justink]

Originally Posted by widespreadmule3

watched the acl '07 show last night and was blown away. I knew he could play but i don't think i've ever just watched a fun live performance. Holy cow. John is insanely talented as a guitarist. Even more excited to see him live finally.

acl '07?

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by currupt3d**

Those ticket prices make me wanna throw up

What are the prices? My ticket was $30 before fees (about $50 after). I'm on the third row of the balcony.

Originally Posted by justink

acl '07?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVJYWkyBNc