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Old 06-10-2009, 11:01 AM   #211
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So you are saying you agree with the fact that music should be open to interpretation but because I suggest doing just that I'm not a good person to be like? What does that make you?

The "parasites" comment was directed to people that call me "unintelligent" for offering my opinion when it differes from theirs becasue they inherited theirs from their host.
First off, let me reinforce my claim that you are CLEARLY unintelligent and advise you to stop the conversation now because you dig a deeper hole with every post you make. Have you realized that not one person has come to your defense and that everyone attacking you is coming up with the same arguments against you repeatedly? That could be a hint that what you're saying is moronic and HolyCow has it completely right when he observed that you are backing down from your original statements by trying to pass off your arrogant (and completely incorrect) original view on the song as "your interpration". Again, if you're not delusional, which is unfortunately becoming a slimmer possibility by the moment, a quick reference back to your original post should clear up everything you need to know about our complaints with you:

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Lyrically, it sounds like a bunch of scrap love song lines were loaded into a shotgun and shot at the wall- whatever sticks was the lyrics.
Clearly you're already starting off not understanding the lyrical content of the song if you can't see any cohesion between the lines. You know what might help you understand the connection between them better? Listening to the writer's explanation, but apparently that would make you a "parasite".

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That and I do not see the Roi connection:

Examples:
1. "Confess, your kiss still knocks me off my legs." (try forcing a Roi connection on this one I dare you)
2. "‘cause you’ll forever be my one true broken heart" (ever refer to a dead friend or relative as a broken heart?... me either)
3. "Goodbye my love" (again, ever refer to a heterosexual male-male relationship as "my love"?)
4. "You give, you give, to this I can attest You made me, you made me.
You and me forever, baby." (I can see this for someone's first love or their mother, but not a friend)
5. The first time I saw you was like a punch right through my chest (see #4 above as reference to a first love. for everyone who is forcing this line to be "when he first saw Roi or the first time he heard Roi play- STOP IT.)

There. that's probably 80% of the significant lyrics of the song, all not being able to link to Roi in any reasonable fashion. You can't tell me the other 20% should be taken as such. You're forcing the issue because you saw someone else say it was for Roi. Get your own thoughts.
Not only are you readily admitting that you were to dense to see the possibility of metaphorical references to something beyond the obvious in the lyrics of a song, you are berating people for adopting an interpretation that the writer of the song has gone on record as saying is accurate. Even if Dave hadn't specificed what the song was about, using your logic, isn't everyone allowed to adopt their own meaning of the song? You're saying that if the song means something about Roi to others they are "forcing it" and to "STOP IT" but you should be allowed to have your own take on it. Apparently, taking the song for what it was intended to be by the writer is "forcing it" but adopting a compltely different view is perfectly logical. If you can't see how much of a hypocrite you are being with your comments you truly are beyond help.
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    Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

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    First off, let me reinforce my claim that you are CLEARLY unintelligent and advise you to stop the conversation now because you dig a deeper hole with every post you make. Have you realized that not one person has come to your defense and that everyone attacking you is coming up with the same arguments against you repeatedly? That could be a hint that what you're saying is moronic and HolyCow has it completely right when he observed that you are backing down from your original statements by trying to pass off your arrogant (and completely incorrect) original view on the song as "your interpration". Again, if you're not delusional, which is unfortunately becoming a slimmer possibility by the moment, a quick reference back to your original post should clear up everything you need to know about our complaints with you:



    Clearly you're already starting off not understanding the lyrical content of the song if you can't see any cohesion between the lines. You know what might help you understand the connection between them better? Listening to the writer's explanation, but apparently that would make you a "parasite".



    Not only are you readily admitting that you were to dense to see the possibility of metaphorical references to something beyond the obvious in the lyrics of a song, you are berating people for adopting an interpretation that the writer of the song has gone on record as saying is accurate. Even if Dave hadn't specificed what the song was about, using your logic, isn't everyone allowed to adopt their own meaning of the song? You're saying that if the song means something about Roi to others they are "forcing it" and to "STOP IT" but you should be allowed to have your own take on it. Apparently, taking the song for what it was intended to be by the writer is "forcing it" but adopting a compltely different view is perfectly logical. If you can't see how much of a hypocrite you are being with your comments you truly are beyond help.
    I agree completely. You got me.
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    Old 06-10-2009, 11:56 AM   #213
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    Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

    The song still sucks though....
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    Old 06-10-2009, 12:21 PM   #214
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    If that's what you want to take from the song, then I respect your choice. The way I approach music is that to Dave and Dave alone, that song is a tribute to Roi. To anyone else who listens to it, it is whatever you want it to be to you. None of us were friends with Roi, so to me, taking this song as a tribute to Roi to me makes for an artificial connection. I loved the guys music, but to assume that we all have the same emotional connection to Roi that Dave does because he played sax for a band we like (therefore preventing us from making the song our own)is not valid in my opinion.

    Again, that's my opinion and how I interpret and enjoy music. To each his own.

    Fair enough I guess, but I dont think that the song HAS to be about what we want it to be about. To Dave, the song is about Roi. It can be about Roi to us to, even if we didnt know the guy personally. We know his music very well.
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    I can't stand baby blue. Just my opinion
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    Old 06-10-2009, 04:53 PM   #216
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    The song still sucks though....
    I may completely disagree with this but atleast you're not contradicting yourself anymore. I'm glad you finally admitted it, I can respect that even if I feel you're missing out on a great tune (IMO)
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    Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

    I will say the song has grown on me. I still rank it around the middle of the pack on BW, but I didn't like it at all at first.

    But I generally like DMBs more upbeat and "heavy" songs compared to the slow sad ones.
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    Old 06-10-2009, 06:53 PM   #218
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    Still a top 3 song on the album for me but I was listening to it again today and actually laughed out loud after dave sings "you're my baby blueee" because all I could think of was Will Ferrell on Old School saying "YOU"RE MY BOY BLUE"

    hahahaha
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    man, I hated this song the first few listens, but it really grew on me, like most DMB songs.

    It is now probably in my top 5 for the album.
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    I can't stand baby blue. Just my opinion
    Actually it's a fact that you can't stand it. Unless you are lying.
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    Old 06-11-2009, 05:38 AM   #221
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    I may completely disagree with this but atleast you're not contradicting yourself anymore. I'm glad you finally admitted it, I can respect that even if I feel you're missing out on a great tune (IMO)
    I'll admit that I was not aware of Dave saying it was about Roi and felt like an ass when I put up such a defensive argument about something I was completely wrong about, so I tried to reason my way out of it to cover my tracks.

    I deserved all the flaming I got. No question. I was just in an argumentative mood I guess. My apologies to all.
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    This song has grown on me a lot since my first few listens.
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    funny the way it is >>>>>>> baby blue > spaceman
    hahahaha
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    Baby Blue < Sister << Spaceman
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    Baby Blue < Sister << Spaceman
    Doesn't everybody deserve to have a gooooood life

    Baby Blue>>>>>>>>Spaceman
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    I think this song and TimeBomb are the only two songs that have the old skool DMB feel to it
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    I think this song and TimeBomb are the only two songs that have the old skool DMB feel to it
    I would add Squirm and Hands of God and stop it there.

    But thats a good mix of old and new.
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    I would add Squirm and Hands of God and stop it there.

    But thats a good mix of old and new.
    Squirm...yeah, kinda.
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    I think this song and TimeBomb are the only two songs that have the old skool DMB feel to it
    Time Bomb old school DMB? You must have a different version than me...
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    Time Bomb old school DMB? You must have a different version than me...
    Yes, old skool DMB...a mixture of Dreaming Tree, Spoon, Halloween, etc...lack of a strong electric guitar like the majority of the new album, great violin background (which is lacking on this album). If you cant see the similarity, then theres no help for you.

    You can put the "ugh" smiley up all you want buddy, but Im not the only one to have compared it to his old skool stuff.
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    Yes, old skool DMB...a mixture of Dreaming Tree, Spoon, Halloween, etc...lack of a strong electric guitar like the majority of the new album, great violin background (which is lacking on this album). If you cant see the similarity, then theres no help for you.

    You can put the "ugh" smiley up all you want buddy, but Im not the only one to have compared it to his old skool stuff.
    The first half of the song sounds like old "skool" DMB but not the second half. If half the song would stick out like a sore thumb on any of the first 3 albums, I wouldn't generalize it as "skool" DMB feel so I guess there's no help for me . Other people's agreement with you on Ants certainly doesn't back your statement up at all. Plenty of people on here think Corn bread is a good song but when I hear them say that I still think , buddy.
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    The first half of the song sounds like old "skool" DMB but not the second half. If half the song would stick out like a sore thumb on any of the first 3 albums, I wouldn't generalize it as "skool" DMB feel so I guess there's no help for me . Other people's agreement with you on Ants certainly doesn't back your statement up at all. Plenty of people on here think Corn bread is a good song but when I hear them say that I still think , buddy.
    then its a matter of opinion
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    then its a matter of opinion
    What isn't?
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    I actually like this New School DMB sound.. I'm not one that wants them to continue to create the same type of music over and over..
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    I actually like this New School DMB sound.. I'm not one that wants them to continue to create the same type of music over and over..
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    Baby BLue is a good song but it sounds like it's straight off of Some Devil.

    I agree -- very reminiscent of Some Devil, which to me is a very good thing. I really don't think it has anything to do w/LeRoi, though.
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    saying goodbye yes, but not to Roi -- in my opinion.
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    Re: I can pretty comfortably say that Baby Blue is Big 3 good

    I think it's a beautiful song. It reminds me alot of Johnny Cash's "Hurt" - wasn't that his song saying goodbye to his wife? (I could be wrong about all of this of course -- I have a very different way of looking at things )
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    I mean the way Cash sang it - he didn't write it, but the way he meant it when he sang it.
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    "Baby Blue" is about Roi, about a lot of things. I sort of smashed things together, but it's about death, in a way, or loss. It's one clean, simple idea of, "See you later."- Dave Matthews

    http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...roogrux_king/3

    Yeah, definately not about Leroi....
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