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Old 01-08-2017, 06:36 PM   #1
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Would you rather Better sets? or better sound with the same old mailed in set?

Hypothetical question: would you rather see dmb play amazing sets with the current lineup and super fast hard rock sound? Or would you rather see dmb get the jazzy sound back and mail in the sets each night? Ross and tim wouldn't be in the band and dmb would be back to 5 members.
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  • Old 01-08-2017, 06:49 PM   #2
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    Re: Would you rather Better sets? or better sound with the same old mailed in set?

    Of course I don't think any of these would actually happen but whatever...


    This I actually a tough question. I would have to I would rather see dmb go back to a more jazzy sound. I think that would be really refreshing.

    On the other hand sets like this would be really really cool.


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    Old 01-08-2017, 06:52 PM   #3
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    Re: Would you rather Better sets? or better sound with the same old mailed in set?

    Variety!

    Play your damn songs!!

    Why do you guys skip certain songs for years!? I understand in not playing the same songs for 5 years in a row, etc. But play the songs your fans want.

    Why are songs like Spoon / Help Myself / Broken Things such rarities these days? All I ask is just to switch it up. We don't need Jimi Thing 1 out of every 3 shows.
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    They have never had setlist variety, they just used to not have bad songs
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    Re: Would you rather Better sets? or better sound with the same old mailed in set?

    Better sets.


    For the most part, I don't mind the current sound as much as others seem to. Sure, I wish they'd slow it the fuck down and turn Tim down, but I'd much rather hear better songs than bad songs played slower/better.
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    Re: Would you rather Better sets? or better sound with the same old mailed in set?

    One thing to think about tho.. if tim and Ross weren't in the band anymore maybe songs like seven and shake me would get played a whole lot less because those songs rely heavily on tim.
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    They have never had setlist variety, they just used to not have bad songs
    I thought this and mentioned on here and got taken to pieces for it haha. But I still stand with the point! Back in the 'old' days the sets weren't really mixed up at all (lack of a catalogue), I think maybe even until BTCS came out. From then till maybe Roi died they shook it up much more (but even then probably less than people perceived)... I remember trawling through night upon night of gigs to answer this question, and the shift I describe was the general gist.

    I went to the Florida shows last summer and was taken aback by how people were genuinely appalled because over 3 nights they played I think 7 repeats out of 50-60 songs, when they "should have played zero repeats"

    In answer to the OP, definitely better sound, 100%. They would mix up the songs themselves and jam, and I would much rather have that jazzy / improvisation we used to see. From the shows I saw over the last couple of years, Jimi is one of the only songs with true improv left!

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    I can take the way they sound now. Give me variety.
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    One thing to think about tho.. if tim and Ross weren't in the band anymore maybe songs like seven and shake me would get played a whole lot less because those songs rely heavily on tim.
    Knowing the band's (or Dave's?) passion for those tunes, I'm sure they would just get reworked.
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    I thought this and mentioned on here and got taken to pieces for it haha. But I still stand with the point! Back in the 'old' days the sets weren't really mixed up at all (lack of a catalogue), I think maybe even until BTCS came out. From then till maybe Roi died they shook it up much more (but even then probably less than people perceived)... I remember trawling through night upon night of gigs to answer this question, and the shift I describe was the general gist.

    I went to the Florida shows last summer and was taken aback by how people were genuinely appalled because over 3 nights they played I think 7 repeats out of 50-60 songs, when they "should have played zero repeats"

    In answer to the OP, definitely better sound, 100%. They would mix up the songs themselves and jam, and I would much rather have that jazzy / improvisation we used to see. From the shows I saw over the last couple of years, Jimi is one of the only songs with true improv left!

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    I too agree with yall that they never really mixed it up as much as they just didn't have as many songs to play. And to the bolded, those people are crazy. I mean, I wish they'd mix it up more, but when was the last time they played multiple cities for 3 shows and not played a repeat? And if it does, it sure doesn't seem to happen often. Even 3-night stands in the same venue often see repeats (see Gorge '07, '08, '09, and '12).
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    For the most part, I don't mind the current sound as much as others seem to. Sure, I wish they'd slow it the fuck down and turn Tim down, but I'd much rather hear better songs than bad songs played slower/better.
    put me in this camp, for sure.
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    They have never had setlist variety, they just used to not have bad songs
    that's trippy

    edit: 5 members, jazzy tunes. tim and rashawn are awful. give me some stone cold grooves.
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    Re: Would you rather Better sets? or better sound with the same old mailed in set?

    Interesting question

    Personally would like to see Rashawn out even though he's great. Just still don't think he fits the DMB sound honestly.

    Tim is great at what he does obviously. Think they over-use him though. Love hearing him right a solo every now and then when necessary but sometimes i think they need the old sound without the electric guitar.

    Ultimately would like better sets. Went to Hartford this year and didn't love the set but was lucky enough to meet Carter, Jeff, and Rashawn. Was on Carters tour bus and got his drum sticks and the official backstage setlist. Awesome experience. Was on the stage 10 feet from Boyd while he was playing on stage fro half the concert.
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    Mix up the sets for sure.

    And never bring back Butch.

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    Re: Would you rather Better sets? or better sound with the same old mailed in set?

    More varied setlists. Better is always going to be a matter of opinion, but shaking it up more would be great. After about '05 I took a long break from the band's live sets because I just couldn't listen to Two Step or Jimi Thing anymore.

    They need to get a trombone to join in with Jeff and Rashawn regularly. Sax and trumpet alone miss something as a section. Jeff has set in to mostly mimicking Roi rather than being Jeff (unless it's solo time, then he's 60/40). Boyd doesn't lock in with the two of them the way he did with Roi, and that lack of continuity is present in the sound. I would prefer the 'jazzy' sound, but while they are still selling ampitheatres well that is not likely to happen.
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    One thing to think about tho.. if tim and Ross weren't in the band anymore maybe songs like seven and shake me would get played a whole lot less because those songs rely heavily on tim.
    no, the songs that are played have nothing to do with anyone other than Dave
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    Fell in love with this band between 2000-2002 and the groovy, jazzy sound of the band that was present at that time. The music today is a shell of what it used to be and although I still love this band, I don't think it will ever return to the musicality it had back then. Where are carter's sick syncopated grooves he used to fill with? Everything is now in warp speed with a blaring horn line behind it.

    Personally, I'll take the old sound with a mailed in setlist every day of the week over a varied setlist with the new sound. Listening to Live Trax 40 last night reminded me how much things have changed.
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    Ya give me the old sound every time. I cant stand the way they sound now, and live Trax 40 reassured me that. I don't need surprises to have fun at the 1 or 2 concerts I'd attend every year.
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    Better sound. I see one show a year, the fuck do I care if they play a song 40 goddamn times in a tour?
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    For the most part, I don't mind the current sound as much as others seem to. Sure, I wish they'd slow it the fuck down and turn Tim down, but I'd much rather hear better songs than bad songs played slower/better.
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    Personally, I'll take the old sound with a mailed in setlist every day of the week over a varied setlist with the new sound. Listening to Live Trax 40 last night reminded me how much things have changed.
    I have to agree with this.
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    I think the "Save Me" nowadays is better...Besides Trey being too much in this vid, I like the fact that Dave meets my boy at the end as he's getting ready to sit down

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