Mad Men

[junior94]

okay grey, have to ask the obvious... how'd you see it?

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by junior94

okay grey, have to ask the obvious... how'd you see it?

Sharing is caring: Leaked from China.

It has Chinese subtitles and you need a Youku unblocker, which I found with a quick Google search.

[Auzz76]

Damn man

[Auzz76]

That was bizarre

[beefandbean22]

What the hell was that at the end? Episode was really good, but weird shit at the end

[trautwein.m]

with all of this partner drama, poignant to think of how Joan became one.

and harry crane probably F'd himself out of a fortune haggling over a couple of percent.

I liked the song at the end, obviously happened in Don's head and was a pretty neat send-off for Bert.

[JacobLovesYou]

I would assume the message of Bert's song will be the underlying theme for Don in the final 7 episodes.

[dmbetc]

Originally Posted by junior94

I'm assuming that AMC here is doing the same thing as with BB, that with splitting up the final season, that includes shooting both halves separately? As in those back 8 episodes haven't actually been shot yet, right?

My neighbor does sound mixing for the show and they have already done the wrap party.

[Lee3691]

So when did Joan become such an ungrateful a**hole?

[whygohome?]

did anyone else laugh really hard when harry got dismissed from the partner's meeting? he's screwed.

wonderful episode. the ending was weird but i liked it. roger sterling is such a boss. i like how they pulled the misdirect with sally going for the nerd instead of the football player

[Lee3691]

Can I also say how stupid is we have to wait 10 months to see the second half of the season? Why not just make it 2 seasons / 10 - 13 episodes each?

[dmbbearcat]

AMC milking their cow for as long as possible.

[Lee3691]

Milk it, but give me a full glass each year.

[TwoStep2888]

That owned.

[laura22]

Originally Posted by whygohome?

did anyone else laugh really hard when harry got dismissed from the partner's meeting? he's screwed.

wonderful episode. the ending was weird but i liked it. roger sterling is such a boss. i like how they pulled the misdirect with sally going for the nerd instead of the football player

yea that was awesome

good epi... ending was good
love roger. stuff with Peggy and the kid was cute

[JacobLovesYou]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

So when did Joan become such an ungrateful a**hole?

when Don got offended and fired the Jaguar guy without consulting anybody. regardless, Don begged her not to bang that dude to get the account, so i think we see a Don/Joan reunion in the final 7 episodes the same way we saw a Don/Peggy reunion last week.

Originally Posted by dmbbearcat

AMC milking their cow for as long as possible.

i'd guess the actor's contracts had one more season. by keeping this as "one season" they don't have to pay out more for contracts and still get to have 2 season premiere ratings boosts and 2 finale ratings boosts.

[junior94]

It cracked me up how after Sally hears the older son complaining of how much money is "wasted" in the space program, 60 seconds later she's on the phone with Don and suddenly is just as passionate about it


and hello Kellie Martin, damn haven't seen her in anything in foreeeeeever. Still looks pretty good.

[coldengrey12]

Originally Posted by junior94

It cracked me up how after Sally hears the older son complaining of how much money is "wasted" in the space program, 60 seconds later she's on the phone with Don and suddenly is just as passionate about it

I like that she was just as easily swayed back by Don. "Is that your black hole of a mother talking or some boy you're crushing on?"

This episode was all about strange hunky dudes. It was about to turn into an adult feature in Peggy's apartment before Julio got his Charlie Bravo on.

[coldengrey12]

Oh, and Peggy's handsome stranger was named Nick, so you know he's awesome.

[MPizzle06]

Really good mid-season finale ( seriously...so dumb to split it)

For a few years now I'd thought the final season would END with the Moon Landing, but they did it really well here. Right when Roger picked up the phone I knew Bert was dead. I had thought for a while that would happen before the end, and his ghostly send off was really great IMO.

My mother, who would have been exactly Bobby's age throughout the series' timeline, has watched it since I introduced it to her several years back and she caught up. She has long said she likes the show but doesn't like any of the characters in a consistent manner. She was most disappointed this season with how all of Don's apparent personal changes from the end of last season seemed to be wiped away so quickly. It got me thinking more about how real this story has been. Real people don't do 180's overnight - that's not how change works. It takes time. There's a seminal moment, but then usually a backtrack into a familiar routine. Don wasn't ever going to change on a dime. He made more permanent strides with Peggy; laid true relational brickwork with his daughter through honesty; and discovered that he enjoys doing the work (though some will say his final "pitch" to Chaugh was just straight-up advertising). Not complete changes, but a slow creep toward true change.

Most of the characters did this. Peggy taking a larger stride into her "New Don" role. Roger finally with no one left to be more adult than him at the agency, and him pulling a "Don" himself seeing to the McCann changes. Sally pulling the big surprise of going for the younger, dorkier kid instead of the older athlete, and straying ever so slightly from her parents' decisions.

My questions for the "Final Episodes":
1. Is Pete's shotgun ever going to really hurt someone?
2. Who is going to be falling out of the building, hurdling toward the NYC sidewalk when all's said and done?

[junior94]

Originally Posted by MPizzle06

Really good mid-season finale ( seriously...so dumb to split it)

For a few years now I'd thought the final season would END with the Moon Landing, but they did it really well here. Right when Roger picked up the phone I knew Bert was dead. I had thought for a while that would happen before the end, and his ghostly send off was really great IMO.

My mother, who would have been exactly Bobby's age throughout the series' timeline, has watched it since I introduced it to her several years back and she caught up. She has long said she likes the show but doesn't like any of the characters in a consistent manner. She was most disappointed this season with how all of Don's apparent personal changes from the end of last season seemed to be wiped away so quickly. It got me thinking more about how real this story has been. Real people don't do 180's overnight - that's not how change works. It takes time. There's a seminal moment, but then usually a backtrack into a familiar routine. Don wasn't ever going to change on a dime. He made more permanent strides with Peggy; laid true relational brickwork with his daughter through honesty; and discovered that he enjoys doing the work (though some will say his final "pitch" to Chaugh was just straight-up advertising). Not complete changes, but a slow creep toward true change.

Most of the characters did this. Peggy taking a larger stride into her "New Don" role. Roger finally with no one left to be more adult than him at the agency, and him pulling a "Don" himself seeing to the McCann changes. Sally pulling the big surprise of going for the younger, dorkier kid instead of the older athlete, and straying ever so slightly from her parents' decisions.

My questions for the "Final Episodes":
1. Is Pete's shotgun ever going to really hurt someone?
2. Who is going to be falling out of the building, hurdling toward the NYC sidewalk when all's said and done?

They're going to pull an M Knight on us with this one -- Peggy, even though she's totally shattered the glass ceiling at work, still proves unlucky in love so by the mid 70's she gets a sex change operation, but in less than a year comes to regret it so much that she hurls herself off the roof of the building

[thebridge15]

I loved this season, but didn't like the finale. Nothing really hit for me.

Roger's meeting with McCann was good, and Harry getting kicked out of the meeting was hilarious.

[Lee3691]

I'm not sure if this has ever been posted, but here's an article about one of the people Don Draper is allegedly based on (name is Draper Daniels). The most interesting part is that he ended up marrying a successful person in his agency (ala Peggy Olson).

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...ticle=0#artanc

[junior94]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

I loved this season, but didn't like the finale. Nothing really hit for me.

Roger's meeting with McCann was good, and Harry getting kicked out of the meeting was hilarious.

am I misremembering something over the years, to not totally understand what Roger has against Harry so much? He seems to hate him even more than he does Pete (or at least how much he used to). I've always thought he was an okay character, but yea can't deny that was a golden comedic moment.

As I mentioned before, with whoever brought this up a couple weeks ago, I can't remember, I'd never even heard that DB Cooper story before then. On one hand I'd actually say that was maybe an interesting way to end the series, but now realizing how much of the audience has predicted that as a possibility, I'm hoping they don't.

[thebridge15]

never really noticed roger hating pete. feel like he just considers him sorta a dope. I can't remember a specific time they've been on opposite sides

watched a couple episodes today for the hell of it, including one of my favorites, S2's finale meditations in an emergency. peggy not only denying pete, but also telling him about the baby is amazing

[junior94]

Originally Posted by thebridge15

never really noticed roger hating pete. feel like he just considers him sorta a dope. I can't remember a specific time they've been on opposite sides

watched a couple episodes today for the hell of it, including one of my favorites, S2's finale meditations in an emergency. peggy not only denying pete, but also telling him about the baby is amazing

Well okay maybe not straight up "hating" him, but certainly not thinking the least bit high of him. Like there's that one scene in I believe season 4 where Freddie comes back the agency at the new offices, he's meeting with Roger and where Freddie says "I have to say, I was a little surprised to see you brought Pete along", and Roger just kind of smirks and says "uhh yea... no comment from me on that".

[thebridge15]

whoa whoa, sorry...that was a typo, I meant harry

I get why he hates pete

[junior94]

okay gotcha. It just feels like virtually any time that Harry's been mentioned in any way this season (at least) in Roger's presence, he's always like immediately had something bad to say about him. For one I think there was the moment a few weeks ago where, I hope I'm remembering this right, the idea of Harry being bumped up to a partner? or maybe not exactly that, but some kind of advancement, and Roger thought it was like preposterous.

[AJF_41]

Just watched the episode.
I thought it was solid.
So did they wrap Megan story up?
Peggy is still awesome.
Love roger.
Joan's character is almost irrelevant now - that's probably my only point of frustration..

[whygohome?]

in regards to the intro, i've read that it was animated and designed without any real knowledge or consultation from Weiner and he has said that they put the part about the guy falling, it wasnt a decision he or anyone who writes the show made. So I don't expect anyone to literally fall out of a window in any of the remaining episodes. i take it as a metaphor for don abandoning who he really is and dealing with the consequences of leading sort of a double life, and his emotions and guilt about his past manifesting itself in Don's many flaws (boozing and womanizing being the main ones) and leading to a spiral out of control, which we may have already seen last season.