Shooting at FSU

[smokew11]

Originally Posted by Speilmen230

Actually just did a research paper on violence/shootings at schools and the numbers have come down tremendously over the years. Studies are showing that a school campus is actually one of the safest places for students.

Just thought i toss that out there.

I'd also be interested in seeing that paper


I think if this shooting happened 5 years ago, this thread would be at 5 pages, and the news would be covering it for a week. My initial thought to seeing news about about another school shoot is "oh, must be a Tuesday"...how fucking awful is it that a school shooting isn't even really news anymore?

[Speilmen230]

Don't have my paper handy but here was the article that kickstarted my research.
http://www.npr.org/2012/03/16/148758...-problem-is-it

[smokew11]

article was published almost 3 years ago, its completely irrelevant so im not gonna bother reading it. no offense, but no professor should allow you to use that as a reference. For a current event paper to show trends in recent years, you need current resources

im a history teacher, i wouldnt allow my students to use that source

[Speilmen230]

That's fine. It looks at it as a trend that has declined since 91. Big picture paper, not a current event topic.

[smokew11]

ok read a little bit of it..

"By 2010, the latest figures available, those numbers had decreased to two homicides and four violent crimes per 1,000 students."

What?? 1st, the latest figure is 4 years old. 2nd, and I'm not a math guy, but wouldnt this mean that in a school of 1000 kids would avg 2 homicides? there are millions of school-aged kids. That figure cannot possibly be right

[Speilmen230]

Just sharing what i found. Doing a quick Google of School Violence Decline will return pages of similar articles from other sources with the same data trends.

[justink]

White guy shoots up a school and it's national news and racist comments for weeks.

black dude shoots up a school and it's barely even news.

[justink]

Originally Posted by TheLastStop123

did anyone see what some asshole student reporter working for ESPNU said? Marisa Martin is her name and she said something like "reported gunman on FSU campus, maybe he's looking for jameis"

to be fair, i'm shocked the shooter wasn't jameis.

[bamadavefan15]

Originally Posted by Speilmen230

Just sharing what i found. Doing a quick Google of School Violence Decline will return pages of similar articles from other sources with the same data trends.

Gotta trust a university study saying universities are safe.

I'm just messing with you btw.

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by justink

White guy shoots up a school and it's national news and racist comments for weeks.

black dude shoots up a school and it's barely even news.

what?????

[smokew11]

yeah stink that made no sense

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by justink

White guy shoots up a school and it's national news and racist comments for weeks.

black dude shoots up a school and it's barely even news.

No. The sad reality is that because there were no deaths, it's barely news. We've become so accustomed to school shootings that if there aren't deaths, the news networks barely bother.

[HoldemHart]

Originally Posted by justink

White guy shoots up a school and it's national news and racist comments for weeks.

black dude shoots up a school and it's barely even news.

Man it's hard being a white man in America, am I right?

[vaxarado]

Originally Posted by HoldemHart

Man it's hard being a white man in America, am I right?

[justink]

Originally Posted by dre2142

what?????

Originally Posted by smokew11

yeah stink that made no sense

Originally Posted by HoldemHart

Man it's hard being a white man in America, am I right?

http://jezebel.com/5969023/have-you-...rdering-people

http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-an...eged-white-men

etc...

[jcc522]

White people shooting up schools is actually a stereotype.

[Tiduwho]

Originally Posted by HoldemHart

Man it's hard being a white man in America, am I right?

[justink]

Originally Posted by HoldemHart

Man it's hard being a white man in America, am I right?

harder than being a black or latina woman in america.

Originally Posted by jcc522

White people shooting up schools is actually a stereotype.

this.

[HoldemHart]

Originally Posted by justink

harder than being a black or latina woman in america.



this.

Holy shit. Do you actually believe that?

[justink]

Originally Posted by HoldemHart

Holy shit. Do you actually believe that?

you've obviously never been a victim to "affirmative action".

[ukcanes]

Interesting turn this thread has taken...

[zajDmB1]

bahahahahahahah

[smokew11]

Originally Posted by justink

http://jezebel.com/5969023/have-you-...rdering-people

http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-an...eged-white-men

etc...

thats all well and good, but has no bearing on your original post...if a black guy shoots up a school, its going to be covered just as much as if a white guy did it

[justink]

Originally Posted by smokew11

thats all well and good, but has no bearing on your original post...if a black guy shoots up a school, its going to be covered just as much as if a white guy did it

except this one isn't. i had to hear about it on ants of all places.

this is being just as ignored as the amnesty speech last night.

[smokew11]

its not being covered much because its happens constantly

[dre2142]

Originally Posted by justink

except this one isn't. i had to hear about it on ants of all places.

this is being just as ignored as the amnesty speech last night.

there was just as much coverage as any other school shooting lately.
The fact that this happened in the middle of the night just delayed the coverage.

Its getting just as much coverage as the seattle shooting.

Jk being jk as usual.

[smokew11]

you'd think a black person shooting up a school would garner more coverage, not less

[Speilmen230]

Originally Posted by smokew11

its not being covered much because its happens constantly

It doesn't happen constantly though... If you look at the data trends...





There i just completed the circle.

[Roose13]

This thread stinks now.

[smokew11]

according to Everytown, which admittedly is a gun control program, there have been 74 (now 75) school shootings since Newtown. I did a little more research and found that their idea of a school shooting in an umbrella term- it includes a non-affiliated person committing suicide in a school parking lot, accidental and purposeful discharges that did not harm anybody (thoug, cmon, its still a gun going off at a school), and college shootings as well. Some of them are just associated with the school- a guy stabbed 3 people on campus, fled, and shot a bystander.

I'm not gonna separate each one, but lets be conservative and say there's been 30 school shootings (campus or k-12, and our "evoked meaning" of school shooting)...thats still 15 per year. I'd say that's constantly

Any way you look at it, 75 school shootings in 2 years is quite a bit. My own personal opinion. I think one is too many, im not sure your definition of constantly. Here's a breakdown of all of te ones Everytown lists http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/sch...gs-cnn-number/