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Old 11-25-2007, 09:44 PM   #1
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Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

So I'm listening to the All Dave Matthews station on AOL radio and they are playing Captain from The Lillywhite Sessions and it sounds mixed, mastered, and completely different from the Lillywhite version I have. Is this news to anyone else? Go to AOL radio and listen in for awhile and you'll probably catch it...interesting...
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  • Old 11-25-2007, 09:46 PM   #2
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    Re: Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

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    The Lillywhite Sessions
    (karmageddon remaster)

    Released: 2002
    Label: Karmageddon Productions
    Type: CD-R
    Country Of Origin: Canada
    Catalogue #: n/a

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    tracklisting:
    01 - Busted Stuff
    02 - Grey Street
    03 - Diggin' A Ditch
    04 - Sweet Up And Down
    05 - JTR
    06 - Big Eyed Fish
    07 - Grace Is Gone
    08 - Captain
    09 - Bartender
    10 - Monkey Man
    11 - Kit Kat Jam
    12 - Raven

    My review
    Well I was never a fan of DMB in the first place. Back in 2002 an online friend asked me to take a whirl at putting the "final" touches on the original LEAKED DAT source for his own personal collection, as he was very pleased with my other professional mastering work. We worked out a deal and I took the ORIGINAL SHN files (that I had downloaded the year before) to a very nice (now out of business) mastering studio I had contract work with.
    The files were burnt to a CD-R first and foremost then ran through, one track at a time, through thousands of dollars worth of ANALOG gear, such as a White 1/3 Octave Parametric EQ, Apogee A/D-D/A Converters (sorry they were 16bit and 44.1kHz no upsampling here) and a Manley tube compressor set at a very low ratio. Also went through some image balancing (in other words each channel was tweeked by ear to sound in perfect stereo with the vocal and snare and kick perfectly aligned up the front & centre). All files were burned at 2x to a Tayio Yuden CD-R using CD Architect. There were some minor fades applied to all trax as well as pro dithering and quantiziation noise.
    In english...it is as good a professional copy as you will find. Not to toot my own horn... but I have yet to hear another "master/remaster" of this title that sounds this good.

    In comparison to the other remasters out there: This one is slightly quieter, BUT this works very well. It creates way more dynamic range. If you look at the WAVs themselves, you can see they are limited but the meat and potatoes of the song has plenty of room to breathe. I can hear no distortion caused by the minor limiting that was done. The limiting that was performed, as well as the fades and dithering & quantization, were the ONLY digital steps done on the computer before final burn.

    As well: this CD was never mastered in the first place, so the point in calling it a remaster is actually false. but this way it remains in the trading circles properly labelled in connection with the other "masters/remasters" of this title.

    Note on the actual music: Again I was never a big fan of DMB, but working on this CD and being a fan of Steve Lillywhite's previous work and just coming out of a 6 year realtionship and being drunk half the time - I got hooked. It is the only album I enjoy of theirs and was not terribly impressed with the actual release Busted Stuff. Thought that one sounded sterile.

    Anyways, I am sure there are lots of you who will grab this. Please leave comments (good & bad) about the sound and quality. I am curious to know...

    ENJOY!



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    Old 11-26-2007, 03:31 AM   #3
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    Re: Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

    When DMB is long gone, and RCA wants money. We'll see the offical Lillywhite Sessions. Which probably won't sound like what we have now. Hopefully it will be the closest to final verison of each track.

    But like Benco said, it's probably just Karmageddon's version.
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    Old 11-26-2007, 06:07 AM   #4
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    Re: Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

    i like my LWS anyway they come
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    Old 11-26-2007, 07:45 AM   #5
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    Re: Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

    i saw them on AOL radio too. but that stations favors alot of weird tracks
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    Old 11-26-2007, 08:25 AM   #6
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    what kind of wierd tracks? good wierd or bad wierd?
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    Old 11-26-2007, 09:29 AM   #7
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    Re: Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

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    what kind of wierd tracks? good wierd or bad wierd?
    well, it doesnt vary its selection alot. ive found its heavy on red rocks, some RCMH, and some others (break free from fenway), but really doesn't do a real mix of music.

    still worth listening to tho, considering its free
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    Old 11-26-2007, 10:12 AM   #8
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    Re: Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

    anybody interested in downloading the karmageddon remaster of the LWS, check the link in my sig. I have them on the front page.
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    Old 11-26-2007, 10:22 AM   #9
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    Re: Official Lillywhite Sessions release??

    Yeah I noticed that too that they play a lot of odd tracks. I actually heard Build You A House last week which was pretty exciting
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