they make these albums such a big thing

[CapnHani06]

Originally Posted by BigEyedFerg

Lulz, Picasso was a crook... stole all of George Braque's ideas!

/nerdy art history lesson

But yeah, I'd say DMB forfeited their status as "artists" with the release of Stand Up. Not saying they'll never be able to recapture the status of "artists" again, but it's going to be a steep hill to climb and they're gonna have to work their asses off. But I agree with you --- really it's none of our business as to what they ultimately do. It's their band. We're just here to enjoy what we choose to enjoy

i rarely vehemently disagree with anything on this site, but this is just an absurd statement. how can you make any kind of assertion of art history prowess and still truly stand by such a seemingly ignorant statement? just because your body of work is not necessarily widely accepted by the masses does not by any means discredit any work completed in the past and what is to be achieved in the future. i know you didn't say it did specifically, but by virtue of your statement you are subsequently doing this by demeriting their work based on recent production.

picasso is an excellent counter-example to this premise; are you trying to tell me that his later work in life during the 1930's and 40's was immediately accepted with open arms by casual admirers and academics alike? absolutely not...this was quite the departure from much of his previous work, as he was a classically-trained artist, and many decried some of these attempts; does that at all discredit his previous work as "art" and himself an "artist"?

by no means am i trying to make any attempt to form any sort of positive correlation between "stand up" and picasso's realism/surrealism period, but i hope you see my point. whether they were highly regarded much later on is entirely irrelevent...the present in both situations is what's important. stand up was just another medium for their unique style of "art". whether you like it or not (and i am no stand up ball-washer myself) has no basis on its status as a work of art in anyone's eyes but their own.

i am well-aware that you probably identify with my last statement pretty closely, but your initial statement doesn't indicate that in the least. the rest of your statement after the bolded seems quite counter-intuitive to your initial assertion, as well, and i tend to agree with your conclusion. not a sermon, just a thought


/silly rant that came off like a sermon. i don't mean to sound pretentious or out of line, but that just threw me a bit.