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Old 08-19-2014, 01:18 PM   #12781
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Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

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I've probably watched that scene 4 or 5 times now and never once have I gotten the impression that Skylar doing a really good Marilyn Monroe was the point of the scene. The point, in fact, is that it's supposed to be awkward and forced. Kind of the basis for why she was uncomfortable doing it in the first place. If you didn't feel uncomfortable watching that scene, then it would have failed hard.
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    shut up is definitely the worst scene of the series. did not resonate at all how they thought it would
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    Old 08-19-2014, 01:21 PM   #12783
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    I was gonna say... yea I'd thought the general consensus from the audience was that that was fairly cringe-worthy, and that even the fellow employees felt awkward seeing it
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    Old 08-19-2014, 01:32 PM   #12784
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    That scene along with when she is at the cafe table with Hank. Just awful
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    Old 08-19-2014, 01:53 PM   #12785
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

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    just saw this up on Aaron Paul's twitter... the Cranston reunion!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqM72em1dA&sns=tw
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    Old 08-19-2014, 02:37 PM   #12786
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    That scene along with when she is at the cafe table with Hank. Just awful
    Another great scene, along with "Shut up!"

    Do people judge these scenes on how they themselves would act or do they actually analyze the character and the full context of the situation that they are in?

    Not trying to be condescending, but seriously. Blows my mind that people define this as "over-acting."
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    Old 08-19-2014, 03:07 PM   #12787
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    wait, I'm having a total brainfart on the "shut up" scene, what that's referring to
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    Old 08-19-2014, 03:16 PM   #12788
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    wait, I'm having a total brainfart on the "shut up" scene, what that's referring to
    The scene where Skyler repeatedly opens her bitch-hole and yells shut up 10000 times.
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    Old 08-19-2014, 03:18 PM   #12789
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    ahhh god that's right, her screaming at Marie in her office
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    Old 08-19-2014, 04:18 PM   #12790
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    The scene where Skyler repeatedly opens her bitch-hole and yells shut up 10000 times.

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    Old 08-19-2014, 08:26 PM   #12791
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y3IoBocVZ4
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    Old 08-20-2014, 05:12 AM   #12792
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    maybe the scene didnt play out so well, but we've all wanted to scream at Marie to shut up
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    Old 08-20-2014, 06:58 AM   #12793
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

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    maybe the scene didnt play out so well, but we've all wanted to scream at Marie to shut up
    This. All this.
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    Old 08-20-2014, 07:12 AM   #12794
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

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    Another great scene, along with "Shut up!"

    Do people judge these scenes on how they themselves would act or do they actually analyze the character and the full context of the situation that they are in?

    Not trying to be condescending, but seriously. Blows my mind that people define this as "over-acting."
    Would love to hear your explanation
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    Old 08-20-2014, 07:25 AM   #12795
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    Felt the scene could have been more effective with less clunky, repetitive lines and still portrayed skylar's predicament. Ana Gunn didn't do a bad job delivering the lines imo
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    Old 08-20-2014, 07:29 AM   #12796
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

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    maybe the scene didnt play out so well, but we've all wanted to scream at Marie to shut up
    that's why they thought it would work. execution wasn't there (not acting, the script)
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    Old 08-21-2014, 01:04 PM   #12797
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    From another forum, an IRS dude breaks down the realism of the Skyler/Ted audit scene, it's p interesting:

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    -The audit scene was actually fairly accurate in both setting and how the agent reacts to Skyler's little story. For a business that size though, it probably would have taken place wherever the books and records were located, so maybe Ted's house.

    -I was floored that they actually got the Internal Revenue Code section right, section 61 does indeed define gross income and it was handled correctly...too bad they sort of ruined that accuracy by having Skyler ask Ted to fill out a check to the IRS. It should have been the US Treasury, but I can sort of let that slide since it's easier for the audience to understand that way.

    -Ted coming to Skyler with the subpoena (which looked accurate enough) likely would have actually been for a prior year, when Skyler was not actually working for him, though it could have easily been expanded to include the most recent filing as well.

    -They stated the taxes due were something near $600K, and then threw in some random number for penalties and interest bringing it shy of $700K by tens of thousands...no. Penalties alone for that amount of delinquent taxes would be over $120K.

    -Skyler is wrong to freak out about Ted paying the back taxes. If they reached an agreement he signed off on in the audit, the case is done. They can't reopen and reexamine it just because he doesn't pay. And since he owns the company it's likely they wouldn't ever touch Skyler.

    -And let's just say, worst case scenario, that Skyler is somehow dragged into it and comes under audit and they discover the money laundering for the car wash. That means the IRS will find out about the drug money and...ask for the self-employment taxes to be paid. Yeah, Walt wouldn't want to have to pay his taxes on the money, but the IRS can't go to the police with that information due to the Privacy Act (believe me, I have seen illegal marijuana businesses come under audit, they're just treated as regular businesses for the most part)

    Sorry about my off topic ramblings, it's just fascinating how close the show really got to nailing that (even though I doubt many people cared about that subplot). More on topic, this show is fantastic and surprised me many times as to how well it was all put together. I especially loved the last scene with Gretchen and Elliot. As soon as I saw the lasers hit them I figured it was just some guys with laser pointers...but Walt had hit a point where he was so deranged and unpredictable I would have also not been shocked if he had actually hired assassins to tail them. He really was like a living example of the Uncertainty Principle, where his actions were both manipulative lies and sinister truths until they were actually observed in full.
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    Certainly. Essentially what it boils down to is the Privacy Act makes it so that all information on returns is kept as confidential, not only from the public but from other government organizations as well. The IRS deals with tax law and has no jurisdiction in criminal law (they even have their own internal police force for dealing with any verbal or physical threats against agents). Yes there are instances of people being jailed for tax evasion, but the IRS won't be able to turn someone in just because the business is illegal in nature (honestly not sure if the records could be seized by the FBI or the DEA with probable cause, but the IRS definitely wouldn't initiate it).

    There are even special rules regarding deductions for some illegal activities. For example, Walt would have been able to deduct for the equipment purchased for the meth lab, but would not be allowed a deduction for cost of goods sold (it's not allowed when the goods are illegal in nature). I think there are also special rules regarding which bribes can and cannot be deducted, but that's never come up so I've never had to deal with it.

    And yes, this stuff happens. The most extreme example I can think of is meeting an agent who allegedly audited a professional assassin (unfortunately that story ends there, there wasn't much information after that).
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    That was one of the coolest things I've read about finances. It's the little things that make this show all the more awesome. Great stuff!
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    that was easily one of the top 20 things ive read about tax code
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    that was easily one of the top 20 things ive read about tax code
    top 20? How many things have you read about tax code? I can't imagine even reading 20 things about tax code and a single one of them be interesting!
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    I think that was the joke

    could be wrong though
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    I think that was the joke

    could be wrong though
    No joke, that guy is a tax code reading fool.
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    Old 08-22-2014, 08:07 AM   #12803
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    Re: 308 Negra Arroyo Lane: Breaking Bad Appreciation

    def a joke
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    Old 08-22-2014, 06:43 PM   #12804
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    if you live in LA - http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1911123
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    ^^ I can't believe they seriously had to censor out "bitch" in that article
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    BB crushed it at the Emmy Awards
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    Nice little send off to the best dramatic series eva.
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    Old 08-25-2014, 09:43 PM   #12808
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    http://jezebel.com/julia-louis-dreyf...-ho-1626737303
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    That was one of the coolest things I've read about finances. It's the little things that make this show all the more awesome. Great stuff!
    Interesting but off-base in some ways because Ted said it was the Criminal Investigation Division of the IRS who had summonsed him and that's not how their cases work. An audit certainly wouldn't have been done on the spot, because an audit in the traditional sense isn't conducted during a criminal investigation and ol' Ted and Skylar (since she created a conspiracy when she bimboed it up for the Special Agent) would be going to the Big House for a few years. ...until they cut a check and the Government attorneys decide "eh, they paid. Whatever."

    It's a small part of the story but it's interesting how they dropped the ball on this part when the DEA stuff is generally on the mark.
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    Old 08-26-2014, 10:49 AM   #12810
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    Nice little send off to the best dramatic series eva.
    But this isn't the thread for Mad Men, The Sopranos, The Wire or Deadwood ...

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