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Old 07-28-2009, 09:39 AM   #31
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Meh... It's a dud
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    Brutal chorus, rest is decent.
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    Probably 60%+ of the Everyday and Stand Up songs are worse. But yeah, it isn't good.
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    Old 07-28-2009, 10:32 AM   #34
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    I ended up replacing You and Me with Write a Song at the end and think that closes out the album much better.




    I also replaced Time Bomb with Beachball
    I just burned a disc that has all the tracks, including both versions of Baby Blue and only the April version of Y&M.
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    I like Y&M alot. It is simple, but that's the point. It's already been stated before what Dave had to say about the song, so I won't re-tread, but I will say this: I got married 4 days after this album came out. We listened to BWGW alot on our honeymoon in St. Lucia, and Y&M was one of the songs that just made us smile & think about the future we have ahead of us. Not the craziest jam to end an album on, but I like it as an album closer for the same reason Dave does.
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    where does one get the April versions? I'm so behind all this...
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    seeing this live made me enjoy it actually.
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    where does one get the April versions? I'm so behind all this...
    You'd need to get a PM from someone.
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    These song lyrics are BAD guys. So many people hate on Dreamgirl and this song gets more praise than Dreamgirl gets and this song is on the same level as Dreamgirl. Parts of the verses aren't bad. With that said i really don't hate the song even though i think its bad if that makes any sense haha.
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    Old 07-28-2009, 12:40 PM   #40
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    These song lyrics are BAD guys. So many people hate on Dreamgirl and this song gets more praise than Dreamgirl gets and this song is on the same level as Dreamgirl. Parts of the verses aren't bad. With that said i really don't hate the song even though i think its bad if that makes any sense haha.
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    Old 07-28-2009, 01:50 PM   #42
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    I just think that if you've got kids or a wife, the lyrics probably mean more to you than they do if you are in your teens or early 20s. I don't say that to be demeaning to those fans...but life changes you, and they may not be the most prophetic lyrics, but it doesn't mean they don't have meaning to them. And I wonder if people's perception of them might vary based on where they are in life.

    Personally, I like it - because it makes me think of my wife and the things we have ahead of us in our life. It's a beautiful thought, in a simple song.
    This is one of the most dead-on posts I've ever read. I totally agree.

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    I just think that if you've got kids or a wife, the lyrics probably mean more to you than they do if you are in your teens or early 20s. I don't say that to be demeaning to those fans...but life changes you, and they may not be the most prophetic lyrics, but it doesn't mean they don't have meaning to them. And I wonder if people's perception of them might vary based on where they are in life.

    Personally, I like it - because it makes me think of my wife and the things we have ahead of us in our life. It's a beautiful thought, in a simple song.
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    I just think that if you've got kids or a wife, the lyrics probably mean more to you than they do if you are in your teens or early 20s. I don't say that to be demeaning to those fans...but life changes you, and they may not be the most prophetic lyrics, but it doesn't mean they don't have meaning to them. And I wonder if people's perception of them might vary based on where they are in life.

    Personally, I like it - because it makes me think of my wife and the things we have ahead of us in our life. It's a beautiful thought, in a simple song.
    Spot on. Same thoughts here.
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    Spot on. Same thoughts here.
    This song sounds like somethin out of a Barney episode! The music sucks, and that chorus, where the hell did he pull that from? Did he let Boyd write again? Im 32 with two kids and a wife guys, dont give me that life changes line.
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    These song lyrics are BAD guys. So many people hate on Dreamgirl and this song gets more praise than Dreamgirl gets and this song is on the same level as Dreamgirl. Parts of the verses aren't bad. With that said i really don't hate the song even though i think its bad if that makes any sense haha.
    Care to explain why the lyrics are bad champ?
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    Old 07-29-2009, 05:26 AM   #47
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    This song sounds like somethin out of a Barney episode! The music sucks, and that chorus, where the hell did he pull that from? Did he let Boyd write again? Im 32 with two kids and a wife guys, dont give me that life changes line.
    Maybe if you yell louder more people will agree with you.

    I think the more important take home message here is that different people have different perspectives on different songs. Just because the song doesn't ring true or mean anything to you, doesn't mean it doesn't hold water for other people.

    That said, you are certainley free to your opinion... too bad this song makes you so miserable.
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    seeing this live made me enjoy it actually.
    True dat. At SPAC it felt like an instant classic. People beside me (who didn't know BW that well) thought it was a cover.
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    It's a good song until the chorus and the synthesizer during the bridge.
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    What's up with the huge bass beat in the chorus? It's like something from a rap song... I was listening to this in my car yesterday and it was really annoying (and I don't even have a sub!).

    I like the "stripped down" version from the listening party CD wayyyy more.
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    I am hoping for YOU AND ME in Va Beach, as well as SHAKE ME (opener would be perfect). Those two songs are pefect bookends to the album (aside from the sax stuff.)
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    I like the album and this song is one of my favorites. I think it could be their next Crash Into Me or Lover Lay Down. (I know I'll get a lot of crap for that) But, other than Crush, when was their last great love tune? Sure lyrics are bad in one or two instances are bad, but I believe its sometimes the passion in the voice that can define songs like this. Sure, me just reciting the lyrics will sound terrible, but there's more elements to the song in his singing. In short, I like it because he makes his lyrics work. Hope all that makes sense.

    I want to point out how funny it is-such difference in taste of music between us all. Most people like Why I Am, and I like Y&M more.

    By the way, I love Crash Into Me and LLD, I just feel they haven't had a soft lovey song in a while.
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    Closing BW with Baby Blue and leaving Y&M would (IMO) have been much better. The melody for Y&M is fine, I actually rather enjoy the simple guitar in the beginning, but the lyrics are just painful to listen to, and there's not really anything remarkable to say about it.

    Edit: "moon and the stars gonna follow the car" is pretty good but a reprise from YNK. I like the "we're gonna spin through the stars" line, can't explain why, just sounds cool to me.

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    i agree with simplicity. it just doesn't flow well with the album. it should have been put on everyday. and since it is the last song it makes the album so lackluster.
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    I think Baby Blue sounds too much like a Dave solo song left off Some Devil. If there was a song to drop, it would be that one. In fact, I often skip it to get to You And Me, which is a meaningful song to me. If it doesn't mean anything to you, then that's you. If it does, then it does. Neither side should pick up torches and pitch forks and treat the other like the Frankenstein monster. I'm pretty sure DMB are anti-intolerence, so it would be a little sickly twisted if some of their fans lost their minds over lack of tolerence for a song that other fans like. And the consensus seems to be leaning more toward people liking it than hating it. And we do live in a majority rules society. Plus, if you don't like it, is it worth the jack up of your blood pressure versus the minimal energy you exert to skip that track? I dare say not.
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    i really like it, and its about 1000 times better than baby blue
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    Old 07-29-2009, 07:29 PM   #57
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    These chorus lyrics are BAD guys. So many people hate on Dreamgirl and this song gets more praise than Dreamgirl gets and this song is on the same level as Dreamgirl. Parts of the verses aren't bad. With that said i really don't hate the song even though i think its bad if that makes any sense haha.
    Fixed. It really just is the chorus. Just brutal. The damn song has one of my favorite lines on the entire record.

    You and I are not tied to the ground
    Not falling, but rising
    Like rolling around.

    Plus the guitar riff is simple yet infectious. I don't know how this chorus got tacked onto this tune, it almost feels out of place. Generic chorus on a record that just doesn't feel generic.
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    I think it's a GOOD song. Like it at the end of the album. Plus my 3 year old loves it, and now all he wants to listen to is DMB...and I love that.....


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    You & Me is not a great song. But I do prefer it in the E1 spot over Rye Whiskey or Sister.
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    Fixed. It really just is the chorus. Just brutal. The damn song has one of my favorite lines on the entire record.

    You and I are not tied to the ground
    Not falling, but rising
    Like rolling around.

    Plus the guitar riff is simple yet infectious. I don't know how this chorus got tacked onto this tune, it almost feels out of place. Generic chorus on a record that just doesn't feel generic.
    I posted the same lyrics a page ago. Also one of my favorite lines from the record.

    I also really like the percussion and the keys throughout the song.
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