Is This How DMB Should Sound in 2018?

[YankeesDMB41]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLhEC4A_kvY I was blown away after listening to this. Tim needs to switch to acoustic, and they need to have a piano player as an accompaniment. Dave's voice sounds fantastic when he's not screaming. This is the best #41 I've heard since Roi died. Wow.

[FeelingGood]

Quite simply, yes.

[lockman21]

It really was VERY good, and I get what you're saying - but no, I don't want DMB to sound like Carlos Varela's band.

That said - I would love to slow down the fast and loud version of DMB sometimes, though. I don't understand why 1998 Tim Reynolds is SO different than 2008-2016 Tim Reynolds. I do miss keys too, and wish Coffin would be a little gentler sometimes.

[CaptainRaven]

Originally Posted by lockman21

It really was VERY good, and I get what you're saying - but no, I don't want DMB to sound like Carlos Varela's band.

That said - I would love to slow down the fast and loud version of DMB sometimes, though. I don't understand why 1998 Tim Reynolds is SO different than 2008-2016 Tim Reynolds. I do miss keys too, and wish Coffin would be a little gentler sometimes.

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[CrashTheStone41]

Dave, Tim, Stefan, Carter and Boyd.

Drop the horns all together.

[CaptainRaven]

Originally Posted by CrashTheStone41

Dave, Tim, Stefan, Carter and Boyd.

Drop the horns all together.

Gotta have horns man, Jeff just needs to be less aggressive sometimes. His solo on lover lay down at Camden this year was epic and he kills the BOWA one every time. Can't drop horns from a band who had a founding member that played sax


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[lockman21]

Originally Posted by CrashTheStone41

Dave, Tim, Stefan, Carter and Boyd.

Drop the horns all together.

HARD pass.

[tyler3440]

Drop Ross keep everybody else

[CrashTheStone41]

Jeff sounds terrible with DMB. He is awful. Also, nobody ever wakes up in the morning and says "I want to hear a trumpet solo today"

The horns are not good anymore.

[comeandsee41]

give tim an acoustic guitar
dump ross and coffin
bring in banford marsalis

enjoy

[ryguy637]

I like the band in each era. I'd actually prefer to keep the band as is.

[smb41]

Originally Posted by comeandsee41

give tim an acoustic guitar
dump ross and coffin
bring in banford marsalis

enjoy

[DMB1983]

I don't think so. It's really nowhere near the level of musicianship DMB has. At best, it sounds like a cool cover band. If I saw that cover band at a bar somewhere, I would think they're pretty good, and look Dave himself even sat in!! But they're not DMB.

It's a nice change of pace for sure. I get where you're coming from, but I would not pay to see that more than once. They didn't really "know" the song. It just kind of fell apart after Dave's singing. And several times while he was singing.

[DMB1983]

Originally Posted by ryguy637

I like the band in each era. I'd actually prefer to keep the band as is.

Couldn't agree more. I think by 2018 they'll have morphed the sound again but with the same lineup. We'll be in a new era. 2008-2016 will be the era we just got out of. In fact I'd even say 2014-2016 tours were different. I can't put my finger on how, but the sound was just different. Obviously the acoustic sets, but how they played a lot of the songs the last two years has a different sound to it than a few years ago even. 2010 and 2016 have drastic differences in terms of jams, pace of songs, tone on the instruments etc...

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by ryguy637

I like the band in each era. I'd actually prefer to keep the band as is.

[SeeMoreDMB]

Originally Posted by CrashTheStone41

Jeff sounds terrible with DMB. He is awful. Also, nobody ever wakes up in the morning and says "I want to hear a trumpet solo today"

The horns are not good anymore.

Originally Posted by tyler3440

Drop Ross keep everybody else

I do feel Jeff could be a little more subtle with his playing sometimes, but to say "he's awful" is just flat out ignorant. He's one of the best players alive right now. And for trumpet, it's upsetting how few people really understand and appreciate the genius that is Rashawn Ross. First off, it was Roi that wanted to bring in a trumpet player to beef up the horn section; and secondly, he is PHENOMENAL! His solos are beautifully crafted, and I personally love when Shawnie rips it up because I appreciate the musicality of his playing. Embrace the direction the band has evolved in.

[dobyblue]

Beautiful piano runs in the verses.

[C.S.]

Keys are the real missing link.

[Hilly]

People here couldn't wait to be rid of the keys in DMB.

[ToySoldier#34]

They should just hang a sign in front of them on stage that says less is more

[jwrice5]

Isn't this what they tried to accomplish with the two sets (minus the keys)? I would love an all acoustic album, but I don't know about an all acoustic tour... I liked the two sets... would be all about an acoustic tour at smaller venues, that's for sure.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by CrashTheStone41

Dave, Tim, Stefan, Carter and Boyd.

Drop the horns all together.

DMB isn't DMB without horns! I wouldn't go.

[dontdrink36]

If they want to change their sound with the current lineup they should just play as closely to LT39 as possible with subtle tones from RR.

[two-by-twostep]

Originally Posted by comeandsee41

give tim an acoustic guitar
dump ross and coffin
bring in banford marsalis

enjoy

pretty much this.

That said, I'd honestly love if Tim left and they went back to DMB 1.0 (i.e. after Peter left) instruments so Dave would have to rise to the challenge of making his guitar playing fill out the Band's sound like it used to. Each year since 08 Dave's playing has gotten quieter and sloppier because Tim's unbearably loud crunch covers most of what Dave plays.

If Tim stays though, I completely agree - acoustic all the way.

[WhoDidIt?]

Originally Posted by Hilly

People here couldn't wait to be rid of the keys in DMB.

I remember this vibe as well. Would trade butch for Tim sound wise in a heartbeat. I think Tim touring with Dave is why we still have tours at all though, so I wouldn't make the trade.

[comeandsee41]

Originally Posted by Hilly

People here couldn't wait to be rid of the keys in DMB.

while this is true, i for one, loved butch in the band and miss the keys. the jazz era was so much better.

[Dodo36]

Originally Posted by lockman21

It really was VERY good, and I get what you're saying - but no, I don't want DMB to sound like Carlos Varela's band.

That said - I would love to slow down the fast and loud version of DMB sometimes, though. I don't understand why 1998 Tim Reynolds is SO different than 2008-2016 Tim Reynolds. I do miss keys too, and wish Coffin would be a little gentler sometimes.

In '98, the band was still fresh and innovative and had not fallen into default roles. Tim was only an occasional guest. His role in the songs was more to be part of the ensemble, his lines were more about counterpoint or simulating a horn section and built into the arrangements. Sure he took point when it was time to solo, but Dave's songwriting isn't as 'out of the box' as it used to be.

Now his role is straight up lead guitar. He's great, but his role now is to comp until it's his time to solo. He's basically Slash now. He doesn't have lines in the newer tunes like in SMTS, R&R, or W'house.

I miss the Butch keys. It's a shame that the era he ended the team with was the self-indulgent jam era. He added a dimsension to the band's sound that was fresh, but didn't get the newer material deserving of his ability (Stand Up).

I was a bigger fan of Jeff when he joined the band versus now. I feel like Jeff's own voice has been buried in favor of wearing a musical LeRoi skin. He may have done his own thing a bit much, but it was new blood in the equation. Him toning it down as much as he has just doesn't seem like the Jeff Coffin i used to be excited for anymore.

But mostly the band just needs a break and a fresh perspective. It won't ever be the old days again, but they are in a somewhat stagnant place right now.

[comeandsee41]

Originally Posted by Dodo36

In '98, the band was still fresh and innovative and had not fallen into default roles. Tim was only an occasional guest. His role in the songs was more to be part of the ensemble, his lines were more about counterpoint or simulating a horn section and built into the arrangements. Sure he took point when it was time to solo, but Dave's songwriting isn't as 'out of the box' as it used to be.

Now his role is straight up lead guitar. He's great, but his role now is to comp until it's his time to solo. He's basically Slash now. He doesn't have lines in the newer tunes like in SMTS, R&R, or W'house.

I miss the Butch keys. It's a shame that the era he ended the team with was the self-indulgent jam era. He added a dimsension to the band's sound that was fresh, but didn't get the newer material deserving of his ability (Stand Up).

I was a bigger fan of Jeff when he joined the band versus now. I feel like Jeff's own voice has been buried in favor of wearing a musical LeRoi skin. He may have done his own thing a bit much, but it was new blood in the equation. Him toning it down as much as he has just doesn't seem like the Jeff Coffin i used to be excited for anymore.

But mostly the band just needs a break and a fresh perspective. It won't ever be the old days again, but they are in a somewhat stagnant place right now.

not even butch could save Stand Up

[stlbluespower]

I pretty much get, though don't fully agree with, the anti-Rashawn sentiments, but don't understand the anti-Jeff stuff at all. He's great. I don't want him to try and be an imitation of Roi.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by WhoDidIt?

I think Tim touring with Dave is why we still have tours at all though, so I wouldn't make the trade.

It has always seemed to me like there aren't many people in Dave's circle that match his loyalty to Carter