** College Football Season **

[ExistenceNow]

Sitting AD's being on there at all is incredibly stupid.

I can't believe that's even a thing.

[CrushB610]

If anything you would think being a sitting AD would disqualify you completely... instead it's encouraged!

[Lee3691]

Agree that sitting ADs shouldn't be on there. Assume it's so they can advocate for their conference. Same thing with the NCAA committee though.

[iMAC386]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

I'm really curious to see what our new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, new special teams coordinator, new strength and conditioning coach, new wide receivers coach, new linebackers coach, and new QB coach can do.

Hahah is there really that much turnover in one off-season?

Originally Posted by Lee3691

Ohio State's new offensive coordinator is Kevin Wilson, formerly OC at Oklahoma and HC at Indiana. As long as he doesn't abuse players, I think it is a great hire. Need to air it out more.

I really would have loved him back on OU's staff in some capacity.

I'm sure tOSU people already know this, but he was the OC during the year OU's offense scored the most points in a season in CFB history (also 5 straight games of scoring 60+ points). His 2008 offense really brought something unique to the hurry-up/no-huddle concept that threw defenses for a loop that season.

Of course DC's eventually figured it out over the next 2-3 years, but that's the caliber of mind your bringing on.

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by ExistenceNow

Sitting AD's being on there at all is incredibly stupid.

I can't believe that's even a thing.

This may sound petty, but no AD from an all time top 50 school should be on the committee. Too many conflict or interests/biases. I don't believe for one second an AD wouldn't vote against letting a rival in the Playoff.

[recentlyJTR41]

Washington football teams don't fare well in the Georgia Dome I learned yesterday

[YouNeverKnow25]

did anyone ever find footage of the penalty called against alabama on clemson's last drive

[mthawk07]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

did anyone ever find footage of the penalty called against alabama on clemson's last drive

The penalty in question wasn't on their last drive, it was on their 2nd to last drive. So Bama had a chance to take the lead (and did) after the penalty, then had a chance to stop Clemson (they didn't). The only penalty on Clemson's last drive was the pass interference on Bama. Look at the play by play.

http://www.espn.com/college-football...meId=400876570

[YouNeverKnow25]

eh whatever...so no, then?

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

eh whatever...so no, then?

I actually spent a not-insignificant amount of time looking for it and didn't find anything.

[Roose13]

Spoke with Penn State LB Brandon Bell over a week ago. Here's the story stemming from that conversation. He had a heck of a career there.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/s...010c54ad5.html

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

I actually spent a not-insignificant amount of time looking for it and didn't find anything.

I spent a lot of time too and I tweeted some people and got nothing.

[Roose13]

Not a good look for UConn (no I didn't write this haha)

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/...eleventh-hour/

[Roose13]

Washington Post blasted Edsell in this column: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.277ce664ea9b

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by Roose13

Washington Post blasted Edsell in this column: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.277ce664ea9b

Edsall is a piece of shit and UConn are fools for rehiring him. That scholarship thing is just unbelievable.

[justink]

did y'all see the Ricky Williams dashcam tape?



that kid/cop is a fucking idiot.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by Roose13

Not a good look for UConn (no I didn't write this haha)

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/...eleventh-hour/

Originally Posted by Roose13

Washington Post blasted Edsell in this column: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.277ce664ea9b

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Edsall is a piece of shit and UConn are fools for rehiring him. That scholarship thing is just unbelievable.

and why exactly is this such a bad look? what am i missing?

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

and why exactly is this such a bad look? what am i missing?

Yeah, in many ways it's just an unfortunate reality of coaching changes. I guess the one shitty thing about this particular situation is that this kid was reassured by Edsall himself that they were going to keep him just a week before they revoked his scholarship. It's not like the kid was just a victim of a new staff that didn't see him as a fit in what they were trying to do. He was told by that new staff he was safe and then had the rug pulled out from under him a week later.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

Yeah, in many ways it's just an unfortunate reality of coaching changes. I guess the one shitty thing about this particular situation is that this kid was reassured by Edsall's staff that they were going to keep him just a week before they revoked his scholarship. It's not like the kid was just a victim of a new staff that didn't see him as a fit in what they were trying to do. He was told by that new staff he was safe and then had the rug pulled out from under him a week later.

stuff like this happens every year all over the country. it's the culture that the NCAA has created

coaches can come and go as they please. recruits can renege on verbal commitments. everything is meaningless until signing day.

don't feel bad for this kid at all TBH. if Edsall thinks giving his scholarship to another recruit is going to help his team then hey, he's gotta job to do.

[mposey34]

coaches can come and go as they please. recruits can renege on verbal commitments. everything is meaningless until signing day.

i agree. When a kid can commit to a school and later flip to a different school, fucking over the first school in the process, I have no problem with a coach pulling an offer.

and it's not as if they have to sign on February 1. He has plenty of time to find a new school. Seems like he is a good kid, he shouldn't have a problem doing that. Of course, his future coach may have to pull someone else's offer to give it to him, but we won't hear about that.

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

stuff like this happens every year all over the country. it's the culture that the NCAA has created

coaches can come and go as they please. recruits can renege on verbal commitments. everything is meaningless until signing day.

don't feel bad for this kid at all TBH. if Edsall thinks giving his scholarship to another recruit is going to help his team then hey, he's gotta job to do.

Won't go as far as saying I don't feel bad for the kid, but agree with what you are saying in general. My sympathy does lie more with the players as far as the lack of true commitment on both sides; coaches are paid lots of money to have contingency plans if a flaky teenager changes his mind at the last minute. Some high schoolers are savvy enough to understand how the process works and have a number of contingency plans as well in case a coach changes his mind, but there's probably a good deal, particularly kids that aren't heavily recruited, that are naive enough to just take an adult at their word when they say a few weeks before signing day that they are excited to have them on their team.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

Won't go as far as saying I don't feel bad for the kid, but agree with what you are saying in general. My sympathy does lie more with the players as far as the lack of true commitment on both sides; coaches are paid lots of money to have contingency plans if a flaky teenager changes his mind at the last minute. Some high schoolers are savvy enough to understand how the process works and have a number of contingency plans as well in case a coach changes his mind, but there's probably a good deal, particularly kids that aren't heavily recruited, that are naive enough to just take an adult at their word when they say a few weeks before signing day that they are excited to have them on their team.

i blame the parents then. these are just kids.

i don't feel bad for this kid in particular because not many kids even get scholarship offers to begin with. so now worst case scenario for him is he'll have to do the college experience just like 95% of the rest of us? boo hoo

best case scenario he gets another scholarship somewhere else.

[TheLastPig]

Yeah edsall reassured him then pulled it. Kid turned down other offers to be committed to UConn.

And no, it is not normal for this to happen. All coaches normally honor the scholarships offered by a previous coach even if that kid doesn't fit their system. It's a shitty thing to do.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Yeah edsall reassured him then pulled it. Kid turned down other offers to be committed to UConn.

And no, it is not Norma for this to happen. All coaches normally honor the scholarships offered by a previous coach even if that kid doesn't fit their system. It's a shorty thing to do.

do you say the same thing whenever a kid verbally commits to a program and then backs out in the 11th hour to go to another school?

[MOWJO8185]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Yeah edsall reassured him then pulled it. Kid turned down other offers to be committed to UConn.

And no, it is not Norma for this to happen. All coaches normally honor the scholarships offered by a previous coach even if that kid doesn't fit their system. It's a shorty thing to do.

I'm not sure this is really true. I think it's just more common for a new coaching staff that doesn't want a kid to just start "ghosting" him and not reaching out until the kid decommits on their own over a perceived lack of interest. Then the school can claim they didn't pull anything.

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

do you say the same thing whenever a kid verbally commits to a program and then backs out in the 11th hour to go to another school?

Verbal commitments are not written. I do think that's shitty but that means that kid has multiple offers.

This kid had met with assistant coaches a week prior to go over signing day details and the new HC told him he was safe. Then it gets pulled. Especially a fringe guy at a program like Uconn, he might not even get another D1 offer.

[MOWJO8185]

This is a pretty good write-up that I tend to agree with:

If a school tells a prospect in November, that's fine because the kid (emphasis on kid) is being given time to form relationships with other schools and take a full allotment of official visits. Similarly, if a school tells a prospect that he needs to do something by a certain date to be in the class -- be it raise his GPA to a level after the fall semester, lose bad weight, or attain a test score -- and he fails to do it by the agreed upon date, dropping him is fine by me, too.

But what doesn't work for me is when a school strings a prospect along and then drops him very late in favor of a more talented player, giving him an unreasonably small window to make the biggest choice of his life to date.

I often hear the refrain on social media that kids drop schools all the time, so schools should be able to drop them. But the key word here is kids. Kids are going to act like kids, but schools are run by adults and should act like it.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...al-signing-day

[mposey34]

so when a kid waits until NSD, telling coaches he will sign, then, after the vast majority of other recruits have already signed, signs with a different school, leaving the first school with a vacancy at a position of need, no problem

or when a kid signs financial aid papers allowing more contact with a coaching staff, then enrolls at a different school, causing the first school to be in violation of NCAA rules regarding contact between coach and players, no problem

but think about the children! when it happens to them

Welcome to the real world, son, it will kick you in the nuts.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Verbal commitments are not written. I do think that's shitty but that means that kid has multiple offers.

This kid had met with assistant coaches a week prior to go over signing day details and the new HC told him he was safe. Then it gets pulled. Especially a fringe guy at a program like Uconn, he might not even get another D1 offer.

again, the HC has a job to do too. i think you are losing sight of that.

Originally Posted by MOWJO8185

This is a pretty good write-up that I tend to agree with:



http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...al-signing-day

completely disagree with that take. so what if they are "kids"? the parents need to be front and center in these situations. a coach should 100% drop a kid, no matter when, if a better recruit comes along. it's literally the HC's job to put the best possible team on field.

so what, the HC should put a sub-par team on the field and maybe risk his job because some 17-year-old might get his feeling hurt? because some athlete kid might have to pay for some college like the rest of us? bullshit, welcome to the real world, son.

[MOWJO8185]

I get that coaches are just doing their job and have to manage a lot of factors with flaky kids. It's more the recruiting rules and lack of an early signing period that are the issue here than the coaches; I'm just saying that in a scenario where neither side has a bound commitment, my sympathies lie much more with kids who get screwed by it than coaches that get screwed by it.